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Pink Or Blue? False Or True?

MayorBob.

Posted to SciTech on Fri May 18, 2007 at 02:48:28 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

Okay, you just found out you're having a baby.  The very next thing you want to do is find out whether it's a boy or a girl because you just can't start too early deciding what color to paint the nursery, right?  Well, that's one of the main reasons being put forth by DNA Worldwide, the company marketing their Pink or Blue DNA test kits.  At a cost of between (UK)£190 and £240 (dependent upon how fast you want your results mailed to you) the test does seem to be a bit expensive just so you can get an early jump on what color the baby's room is going to be.  In addition to that consideration, there seems to be some some concern over whether the test actually works.

The test analyzes fetal DNA which leaks into the mother's bloodstream.  DNA Worldwide touts >99 percent accuracy for the test and says it guarantees money back for any test which is not accurate.  The medical community is not sold on DNA Worldwide's claims however.  Dr. Patrick O'Brien, a spokesperson for the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, doesn't see how the test could possibly be accurate:

"The earlier in pregnancy that you do these tests, the less fetal DNA there will be around, and possibly, the less accurate the test will be.  At six weeks of pregnancy, it's questionable whether the technology is that good."
What's not in question is that if the mother waits 11 weeks they can obtain near 100 percent accurate results from an invasive anmiocentesis.  Or, they could wait an additional 9 weeks for the same results with a non-invasive ultrasound.  Because the test kit is marketed as "informational" it is not regulated by any medical body in the UK or the US, where it has been sold online since April.  One doctor at the New York University School of Medicine suggests that nursery color motifs and buying appropriate baby clothes might be frivolous reasons for spending what amounts to between (US)$375 and $474 on this side of the pond.

That last is a point the ProLife Alliance in the UK would agree with.  They believe the test might be abused by people for whom abortion would be an option dependent upon the sex of the fetus.  Referring to "casual attitudes" towards early abortions in the UK, ProLife feels "it is inevitable that abortion numbers will rise."  ProLife deplored the practice of social sex selection in countries like India and China, fearing that the Pink or Blue test might become used to ensure the proper ratio of boy to girl babies.  Australian Health Minister Tony Abbott expressed concern that Australians might be able to purchase the test kit and promised an investigation.  But, as some of the commentary points out, Abbott might have his own personal agenda in mind.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by MayorBob, DNA testing, babies, abortion (all tags)

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Re: Pink Or Blue? False Or True?

rombuu.

Fri May 18, 2007 at 11:43:17 AM EST

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It'll be fun to see the "its my body I can do what I want" feminists fight it out with the "OMG, they are killing fetuses (fetii?), because they are girls" feminists.

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Really?

uncarved block.

Sat May 19, 2007 at 09:13:41 AM EST

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   Because if you're really interested, you could probably go read a bunch of books with that issue, or something similar, at your local library or used book store. Goddess knows there are books on just about everything else in the Women's Studies section of my book store. Not like reproductive technology and the ensuing controversies just kind of snuck up on anyone this year.

Ex ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras

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Lou.

Fri May 18, 2007 at 04:23:03 PM EST

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I didn't know if I was getting a brother or a sister so I put up purple streamers while my mom was at the hospital.
- thefadd

That is such a coincidence!  My family didn't know if I was going to be a girl or a boy...in any case, my brother and sister put up black ribbons when my mom was at the hospital with me.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: Pink Or Blue? False Or True?

skeptic.

Fri May 18, 2007 at 08:43:27 AM EST

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Aside from the motives of obtaining your color-coded gender-appropriate baby stuff early, or deciding whether to get an abortion based upon the desire you may have for a baby of a particular gender, I can imagine that some prospective parents are simply consumed with curiosity about the gender of their impending baby.  But I think that in such cases, it would be better for people to restrain their curiosity and wait to be surprised when the baby is born.  It's sort of like opening Christmas or birthday presents early.  Even if you are able to do so, why spoil the effect that the presents are intended to have when they are officially presented at their scheduled time?  Childbirth is more fun (and yes, I realize that it is generally a painful if not excruciating experience for the mother, who would not be likely to describe it as "fun") if you let it surprise you at least to the extent of learning the baby's gender at that time.

Still, in the long term, if technological civilization continues to advance, we would eventually get to the kind of future envisioned by Greg Bear in his novel "Eon" (among others) in which all babies are carefully planned and genetically engineered in every detail, not just gender, before gestation in an artificial womb.

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tomc.

Fri May 18, 2007 at 09:05:49 AM EST

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all babies are carefully planned and genetically engineered in every detail, not just gender, before gestation in an artificial womb.

Instead of seeing a doctor, we'd just go to Michael's and pick up a creative hobby kid kit.

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dzetetes.

Fri May 18, 2007 at 10:42:23 PM EST

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But I think that in such cases, it would be better for people to restrain their curiosity and wait to be surprised when the baby is born.

Or at least for the ultrasound, as the writeup suggests.  You can find out the baby's sex by ultrasound at 18-20 weeks.*  They're usually doing one around that time anyway to take a look at the kidneys and make sure everything is where it's supposed to be and functioning properly.

Childbirth is more fun (and yes, I realize that it is generally a painful if not excruciating experience for the mother, who would not be likely to describe it as "fun") if you let it surprise you at least to the extent of learning the baby's gender at that time.

Childbirth is a grabbag of emotional and anatomical surprises.  I'd be inclined to think of it more as sublime (or surreal) than fun, and I think that, even knowing the baby's sex, the process is still plenty surprising.

But this is a bit off topic.  In reply to the subject at hand, I can only repeat the old adage: "A fool and his money are soon parted."    

*That 18-20 weeks is measured from the first day of the mother's last menstrual period, and assuming that the baby is conceived roughly 2 weeks after that, the fetus is actually only 16-18 weeks old at the time, and unless the couple found out about right away, they've been waiting even less time than that to find out the baby's sex.  It ain't a hard wait.

In regione caecorum, rex est luscus.

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