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Unless You Have Our Permission, Our At-Risk Kids Can Just Remain At-Risk

MayorBob.

Posted to Etcetera on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 06:22:57 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

The S.T.A.Y. program at the Manchester, New Hampshire YMCA has been around for close to 20 years.  Working in concert with local schools, it is aimed at helping 7th and 8th grade students to "reengage in school and learning, build social skills and reduce the use of alcohol and other drugs by providing support, tutoring, adventure education, and family outreach."  One of the ways they accomplish those goals is to load the kids aboard busses and take them around the community to see what government and social agencies are doing.  This good idea may have suffered from poor execution recently as a field trip included a visit to a controversial social agency costing one YMCA official her job and bringing the program under fire.

The June 6th field trip was listed as a "Social Services Scavenger Hunt" and the 30 students were to participate in their final "adventure day."  Permission slips were issued and signed for the kids to participate.  However, no mention was made on the permission slips as to what sort of adventure sites were on the itinerary that day.  As it turned out, one of the stops was the Manchester office for Planned Parenthood.  When the news was revealed about this stop for the field trip, the real adventure began.  As fast as you could say "abortion" school and YMCA authorities investigated.  They determined the visit to Planned Parenthood should have been made known so parents could decide whether these "at risk" teenagers should be allowed to visit.  School superintendent Michael Ludwell said, "a parent should have every right to approve or disapprove whether his or her child goes on a field trip."  YMCA Community Outreach Director Joyce Palmer, who organized the trip, took the bullet and resigned.  Manchester YMCA President Hal Jordan said "we agreed it's in the best interest of the program."

The Planned Parenthood person who spoke to the kids said that abortion was not even mentioned during their trip.  And Planned Parenthood of Northern New England released a statement which stressed the agency's role in working with at-risk children - work which has little to do with abortion services:

"Over the past several years, much of our work has been guided by a simple goal: break down the silence between adults and teens in regard to sexual health and relationships."
Indeed, the students didn't hear a word about abortion inside the clinic -- but they got an earful from some noisy protesters outside.  The New Hampshire Right to Life issued their objective analysis (pdf doc) of the situation and insisted they be included in any future field trips.  One of the school principals says she was aware of the Planned Parenthood visit ahead of time but considered the trip more of a "job fair."  A parent of one of the kids wrote the local paper saying the agency had provided her with needed help in the past and her "daughter can visit ... anytime."  P.S., for some eye-opening commentary, check out the comments on the Union Leader stories.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by MayorBob, kids, Planned Parenthood, abortion, right to like, at-risk kids, parental authority, right to life (all tags)

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I nominate Hal Jordan for Weasel of the Month.

MayorBob.

Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 07:27:39 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

Okay, maybe Joyce Palmer should have identified every place the group was going to visit on the field trip, but she didn't and no harm came to anyone on the trip.  But, great jumpin' Jesus, one of those places was Planned Parenthood and that's where they perform baby killings.  Except, that's not what happened.  According to the Planned Parenthood staffer, the "a" word was never mentioned and I'll bet it wasn't because a). nobody in the group refuted what the PP staffer said, and b). I'm sure if PP took the time to lobby for abortions they'd realize it would most definitely bring down the shitstorm on everyone.  But because a bunch of abortion protesters decide it's appropriate to get in the face of teenagers and harass and harangue them on the street, somehow it becomes Joyce Palmer and PP's fault.  Where is the parental outrage about the asinine behavior of the abortion protesters and, by extension the New Hampshire Right to Life organization which organized the protest?  Even one of the school principals was clued into what was happening and yet the school superintendent felt the need to demand the scalp of Joyce Palmer.  And Hal Jordan, who's supposed to stick up for his people ends up giving them her scalp.

Just a casual review at Ms. Palmer's resume provided in the links tells me that the YMCA lost the services of a bright, innovative person who was primarily concerned about what the YMCA should have been primarily concerned with -- young kids in their community.  Instead, Mr. Jordan decided to take the easy way out and cave to the worst kind of social paranoia.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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It's a crazy world

skeptic.

Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 10:02:20 AM EST

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It is an interesting commentary on the state of America that there are still so many people who believe (or at least pretend) that teenagers are not going to have sex, at least not unless they smoke pot and lose all their normal capacity for self-control.  There is no pre-marital sex because decent, God-fearing Christians don't think about (and perhaps don't even know about) sex until after they get married (to a person of the opposite sex, naturally) at which time they get to suddenly blossom into sexual beings within the sanctity of the marriage bed, while angels sing on high.

The idea that a group such as Planned Parenthood is too controversial for the YMCA is truly nuts.  I can think of no more benign and helpful organization on the face of the Earth than Planned Parenthood.

As for the anti-abortion protesters whom the students encountered outside of Planned Parenthood, those people need to read Christopher Hitchens' book, "God Is Not Great:  How Religion Poisons Everything".  But first they need to obtain parental consent to read a controversial book.  If their parents are already deceased, no doubt they can still be contacted by means of some suitable psychic.

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Re: It's a crazy world

gerrymander.

Sat Jun 23, 2007 at 05:21:37 PM EST

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The idea that a group such as Planned Parenthood is too controversial for the YMCA is truly nuts.

For the YMCA in general, I'd agree. For 7th and 8th graders? Not so much. We're talking kids as young as 11 here. You don't have to religious to think that eleven is just a bit young to be worried about where to score the free condoms.

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Re: It's a crazy world

skeptic.

Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 01:07:11 PM EST

4.33 (brilliant, astute, astute)

People learn about all sorts of things at the age of 11 (and throughout their school years) for which they have no immediate practical use.  Actually the best time to learn about condoms is BEFORE you actually need them, because if you wait to learn about them until you actually do need them, you may be too late.

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I Remember Quite Clearly

thefadd.

Tue Jun 26, 2007 at 02:10:49 AM EST

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I went to one private, religiously affiliated (ok quaker but still) K-6 school until fourth grade and then another K-8 school after fourth grade. In both cases, pretty much all our parents were sure we didn't even know what curse words were well into 7th and 8th grade. Both were about as sheltered as you could get. Let me assure you that the delussion was all on the parentage side of the table. Fourth grade was the year in both school that we collectively discovered and began discussing and figuring out what sex was, boys and girls alike. Was anyone having it? I'm 99.9% sure not. But by the time it was taught in seventh and eighth grade (replete with condom and safer sex indoctrination) the only "studying" that was going on wasn't the kind that requires books 'cause we all could have passed the test well before then on our own.

make it rain you nappy headed ho's

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Re: Unless You Have Our Permission, Our At-Risk Ki

thefadd.

Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 01:33:56 PM EST

none

Didn't South Park already do this episode?

make it rain you nappy headed ho's

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So...

rombuu.

Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 02:06:19 PM EST

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..did they take them to the methadone clinic too?  I mean, just because you tell kids not to do some smack, doesn't mean they aren't going to do it.

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Re: So...

Lou.

Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 03:26:25 PM EST

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Right on, R.  In fact, why the hell are these people trying to usurp a parent's authority anyway?  Plus, the whole thing is a bad idea anyway.  If we put so much emphasis on these social service organizations, aren't we just making another group of dependent leaches?

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: Unless You Have Our Permission, Our At-Risk Ki

thefadd.

Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 06:24:12 PM EST

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Didn't some UC prof just go into a school in Colorado and tell the kids to have sex and take drugs safely and everybody flipped out? Or maybe that was the south park episode. Eh, I just can't get worked up over these things anymore.

make it rain you nappy headed ho's

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Maybe it's me...

gerrymander.

Sat Jun 23, 2007 at 05:56:44 PM EST

none

Does anyone else see the irony in a Planned Parenthood statement about the goal of "break[ing] down the silence between adults and teens," when the issue at hand involves parents being kept uninformed?

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Re: Maybe it's me...

teaweed.

Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 08:38:04 AM EST

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There's some irony, but not as much as if the statement had come from the YMCA. For what it's worth, I think Planned Parenthood was a totally appropriate stop on the inappropriately undisclosed itinerary.

It's a shame, and somewhat ironic, that visits to Planned Parenthood is apparently opposed by conservative citizens of Manchester, when I suspect that sex education in general leads to less unplanned sex, rather than more promiscuous sex. Talking about sexually transmitted infections, unplanned pregnancy, and the unromantic mechanics of preventing them doesn't make sex sound like such good sport.

When I was about 11, around the time of my first period, my dad gave me a little talk about how I'd probably start feeling interested in boys (that'd been going on for, oh, about a decade already) and if I decided I wanted to do something with a boy, I should come to him for birth control. I didn't say anything, but I resolved internally not to have sex until I could get my own. I couldn't very well get knocked up after that talk, and the only thing I could imagine worse, was having a similar conversation to take him up on the offer.

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