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Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money, $90,000 Dollar Dollar Bills, Y'all

pO157.

Posted to Politics on Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 02:47:34 AM EST (promoted by 1fastdog). RSS.

Rep. William Jefferson (D-LA) faces an inch thick indictment filed recently in the Eastern District Court of Virginia, alleging he received bribes and betrayed the public trust.

Rep. Jefferson is no stranger to controversy. Long under investigation for soliciting bribes for himself and family members from US and African parties since 2005. He was taped by the FBI receiving $100,000 in a briefcase in a hotel under suspicious circumstances -- later $90,000 of the marked cash was recovered hidden in his home freezer earning him the derisive nicknames "Dollar" Bill Jefferson and "Mr. Freeze."

In addition, his reputation was further marred during Hurricane Katrina when he allegedly commandeered National Guard troops, two trucks and a helicopter to help him move furniture at his home while the city was in chaos.

However, he is often regarded as one of the more powerful politicians in Louisiana, and his stature grew somewhat after surviving re-election in 2006 to his old seat despite a public investigation and discovery of his frozen assets. His expulsion from committee posts was quite controversial -- leading to allegations of racism by some.

The indictment (pdf doc) accuses him of 16 counts, which could lead to 235 years in prison. He is charged with bribery, racketeering, obstruction of justice and money laundering.

The congressman contests the charges through his attorney and promises there will be no plea bargain, "Congressman Jefferson is innocent. He plans to fight this indictment and clear his name."

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Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

shane.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 02:49:15 AM EST

none

Does 'D-LA' mean he is a democrat from LA?

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Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

MayorBob.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 06:38:08 AM EST

none

Louisiana.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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random thoughts about dirty politicians

wetkarma.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 06:50:47 AM EST

none

It occurs to me that this guy is "most likely" guilty and needs to go to directly to jail. Preferably for a long, long time. Its not his alleged malfeasance that annoys me, its his stupidity.

 Nevertheless the key word here is alleged, and its perhaps pedantic of me to point out that A) the man has not been convicted of anything and B) he was re-elected to his position after these allegations came to light.

I can easily see a scenario where some other politician (lets call him Mr. Smith) gets smeared with an indictment and is forced to step down from a committee where he is doing some good. I'm not at all comfortable with the idea that in its rush to appear pure and clean, congress is throwing due process out the window.

Final thought -- if he gets convicted, does he lose his eligibilty for congressional retirement funds?

Memory is a strange bell, jubilee and knell.

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Re: random thoughts about dirty politicians

zyxwvutsr.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 11:01:41 AM EST

none

he was re-elected to his position after these allegations came to light
That reminds me of the adage that people usually get the government they deserve. Why, to put it another way, is New Orleans screwed up? Because the people in New Orleans are screwed up.

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People usually get the government they deserve

teaweed.

Sat Jun 09, 2007 at 01:37:41 PM EST

4.50 (astute)

That adage occurred to me too, repeatedly, while watching blunder, after bad faith, after incompetency in the news about Katrina and its aftermath. Now that my indignation has abated some, I find it a specious consolation.

People usually inherit a government they had little to do with creating and governments are entrenched systems. Changing a government takes a community of ambitious, idealistic, civic-minded people with time or money to spare. Although they're human creations, New Orleans' governing agencies are complex and systemic enough to be compared with weather. The people in New Orleans deserved to get screwed by the agencies that nominally served them in much the same way the city deserved to get ravished by a hurricane.

Would things really have gone down so differently if the name of the city had been Chicago, Seattle, or Boston? FEMA would still have been run by a boob. I haven't heard much about Seattle, but the others' bureaucratic corruption and incompetence is legendary. I expect the city and state I live in would embarrass itself grandly. New Orleans isn't so special as it is subject to bad weather.

~Those grapes were probably sour anyway, said the fox.

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Re: People usually get the government they deserve

zyxwvutsr.

Sat Jun 09, 2007 at 06:13:44 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

People usually inherit a government they had little to do with creating and governments are entrenched systems. Changing a government takes a community of ambitious, idealistic, civic-minded people with time or money to spare
My point was that the people of New Orleans voted for Jefferson even after he was caught by the FBI with $90,000 in his freezer. They didn't "inherit" a corrupt congressman - they chose him of their own free will. In this case, the didn't need "ambitious, idealistic, civic-minded people with time or money to spare;" all they had to do was show up and vote for someone else.

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All they had to do

teaweed.

Sun Jun 10, 2007 at 07:54:11 AM EST

none

In my city, local elections aren't well publicized. I've only ever seen mayoral and national election dates mentioned beforehand on local news or even in the papers. Finding out when and where to go vote in local elections requires research. Assuming one wants to vote for a politician, the research effort jumps considerably. I suspect the voters who show up for a local election are less dutiful citizens than interested constituents of particular politicians. Turnout is predictably low, giving weight to the partisans who do vote.

I would be willing to bet money that the people who elected Jefferson weren't the monolithic, free-will boneheads of New Orleans. I'd bet the people who elected him are mostly individuals affiliated with him personally or invested financially in his career.

Are the the people of NO fundamentally different from the rest of us? What do you suppose moves them to vote for a crook?

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Damn right!

Lou.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 04:38:09 PM EST

none

Tell ya whut...them folks in No'lins didn't get enough shit laid on 'em whut Katrina did.  Shulda bin a bigger storm an' flushed the city like the giant toilet it is.  Then...when things done dried out, we coulda recolonized the place with folks whut ain't so screwed up.

But seriously...if your assertion is correct about people getting the government they deserve, then Bush is some kind of holy retribution for something.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: Damn right!

zyxwvutsr.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 05:44:43 PM EST

none

Bush is some kind of holy retribution for something
I blame the Democrats.

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Re: Damn right!

Lou.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 07:21:32 PM EST

none

No surprise there...what does surprise me is that you don't specifically blame Clinton.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: Damn right!

zyxwvutsr.

Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 08:52:34 AM EST

4.00 (funny)

what does surprise me is that you don't specifically blame Clinton
Was Clinton (either of them) responsible for John Kerry becoming the nominee? If not, then why in the world would I blame Clinton (either of them)?

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Well, that explains a lot

Lou.

Sun Jun 10, 2007 at 08:57:26 AM EST

none

Because the people in New Orleans are screwed up.

So...

Jefferson::LA is to Bush::America

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: Well, that explains a lot

zyxwvutsr.

Sun Jun 10, 2007 at 10:51:55 AM EST

none

Jefferson::LA is to Bush::America
That's a fair comparison to an extent. Bush, however, is not a crook (wiretaps notwithstanding), but Jefferson clearly is.

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What?

Lou.

Sun Jun 10, 2007 at 12:48:37 PM EST

none

Bush, however, is not a crook (wiretaps notwithstanding),

Isn't that kind of like saying Charles Manson is not a crook/criminal (murders notwithstanding)?

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Committees And Corruption

uncarved block.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 12:55:38 PM EST

none

    Committee positions are, AFAIK, given out entirely at the discretion of the party leadership. Is it better or worse that the usual reason for deciding who gets what committee seat has more to do with party loyalty than public image? (There may be good reasons to keep 90K in cash in your freezer, but there aren't many.)* I'm a firm believer in the saying, "the problem in Washington isn't what you can't get away with, but what you can", and assigning powerful committee seats and chairs on the basis of party loyalty has always bothered me-- bothers me more than this preemptive move against Jefferson, in fact.
    Would he keep retirement benefits? Google is your friend. Yes. On a partisan note, yes, the Dems aren't going to tackle the problem, but Republicans had twelve years to change the rules too, with the added benefit of kicking former Dems like Rostenkowski off the government teat. (And really, what kind of opposition could there have been to such a move?) Premonition? Members only privilege? Elite vs "the rest of us"? All I can say is that it's a good reason why conservative pundits spend more time attacking Democrats~ than promoting Republicans-- they may be politicians you like, but they're still politicians.

    *In fact, IIRC, large sums of cash are probable cause for law enforcement agents to investigate you. Apparently there aren't enough old-timers who distrust banks any more to give cash hoarders the benefit of the doubt.
    ~And for the peanut gallery at Newsbusters, consider how many felons are getting back their vote, with minimal opposition from Republicans or conservatives. I seem to recall rather heated discussions at Plastic over the topic in 2002-3, so the silence over these moves is indeed notable.

Ex ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras

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Re: Committees And Corruption

pO157.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 01:06:01 PM EST

none

*In fact, IIRC, large sums of cash are probable cause for law enforcement agents to investigate you. Are you serious? If I was not loitering in a known drug sales area and had a ton of cash on me or crossing a border with that kind of dough that would be PC for an investigation?

and assigning powerful committee seats and chairs on the basis of party loyalty has always bothered me-- bothers me more than this preemptive move against Jefferson, in fact.

I thought it was on the basis of party seniority, at least in the senate (which has nothing to do with this case). Or does seniority generally  correlate highly with loyalty and influence?

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Yes, I Think So

uncarved block.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 01:23:38 PM EST

5.00 (informative, brilliant)

    Large sums of cash are taken as a sign of either tax evasion, or for the purchase of illicit substances like guns or drugs. Of course, the question is how much is too much; I've known guys who felt better if they could flash having 500 bucks or more in their wallet, but I doubt any of them would have been investigated as a result. 5K is probably a good place to start, being 50 hundreds (you've got to notice that, right?), but that's just a guess. Of course, the SCOTUS has decided that the cops can pretty much strip search your car for not wearing a seat belt*, so I can't say this really surprises me much.
    Well, seniority and party loyalty usually go together, so committee assignments aren't usually a problem. If you read The Hill every once in a while, you'll read about someone getting miffed at not getting a seat or chair that they wanted. For the most part, the game is so much understood by everyone involved that its rarely an issue.

   *Happened to a buddy of mine in Texas. No seat belt + long hair= a twenty minute search of his car. The only reason he didn't do time was because the weed was stashed in metal kayak paddles, hollow metal ones that click together, and the cop didn't think to look inside.

Ex ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras

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heh

gerrymander.

Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 04:16:31 PM EST

4.00 (astute)

The only reason he didn't do time was because the weed was stashed in metal kayak paddles

So, the cop was right about the profile, but just not diligent enough. Classic.

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Re: Yes, I Think So

pO157.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 04:00:46 PM EST

none

*Happened to a buddy of mine in Texas. No seat belt + long hair= a twenty minute search of his car. The only reason he didn't do time was because the weed was stashed in metal kayak paddles, hollow metal ones that click together, and the cop didn't think to look inside.

"Officer, I know you want to do your job, but I do not consent to any searches of my private property."

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Well, Y'Know

uncarved block.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 06:03:24 PM EST

none

   I'm pretty sure he was stoned at the time :)

   Seriously, though, it was a bit of a "changes in latitude, changes in attitude" story. In Washington State, especially in the medium-small town he was from, no cop would have looked twice at his rig, or his hair, because there's a fair amount of people who look much the same on the roads every day-- living within 100 miles of the Columbia River and all that. He just never thought about it enough to think beforehand what he might do in that situation. Good link, though I'm not sure I'll ever need it on my bicycle; the cops would have to notice me first, and even with my hair dyed green, that just doesn't happen.

Ex ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras

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Bwuh?

Lou.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 04:30:30 PM EST

none

No seatbelt...long hair...kayak paddles?

Shoot...I thought those three things together were considered iron clad probable cause in Texas.    

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Administrative Query:

pO157.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 09:59:55 AM EST

none

How many people got the headline, or am I just being stupid? In the future I can attempt to avoid relating the news to obscure musical numbers if you would all prefer.

Thanks!

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Re: Administrative Query:

WMK.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 10:18:16 AM EST

none

Dolla Dolla Bill Y'all?
From some rappy hippity hoppity thingamadoo right?
but which one it is I haven't a clue - a'ight!?

R Kelly?

Wu Tang Clan?

Everlast?

Coolio?

oh schnaaaap!

"...when theft and high crime becomes obscenely obvious to even the blindest beer sucking idiot, it is always the Republicans who are in office." -- Joe Bageant

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Re: Administrative Query:

pO157.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 11:52:37 AM EST

none

Yep, it's CREAM by the Wu Tang Clan. Because I'm so gangsta. Word to yo mutha, homes. Or something.

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Political corruption in Louisiana?

rombuu.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 10:42:16 AM EST

none

Get outta here... who would ever believe that...

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Re: Political corruption in Louisiana?

MayorBob.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 12:33:16 PM EST

none

Or, in the words of Jon Stewart, "this indictment by the Justice Department marks the first time the Bush administration cared about a black Democrat from New Orleans."

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: Political corruption in Louisiana?

rombuu.

Wed Jun 06, 2007 at 12:47:42 PM EST

none

Oh that funny Jon Stewart... has to drag Bush into a Democrat stealing money.  What a riot that guy is.  He probably thinks it's Bush's fault when the milk in his fridge goes bad too.

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Re: Political corruption in Louisiana?

Dvandom.

Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 08:42:56 AM EST

3.66 (funny, funny, brilliant)

Nonsense.  Everyone KNOWS it's Cheney who makes milk go sour.

This is not a signature.

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Re: Political corruption in Louisiana?

tinsguy.

Sat Jun 09, 2007 at 02:49:52 PM EST

none

and yet what mayorbob said is very true.

everyone is south louisiana knows that jefferson is a crook. i lived there for 23 years, the last 10 in new orleans before moving. the various news reports through the years would give me pause to laugh at the blantant, but petty, crimes he got away with.
he's not gonna get away with this one.

about time!

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Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

pO157.

Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 03:54:49 PM EST

none

Anybody know if La. has a recall provision for elected officers? Can you recall a sitting congressman, or is expulsion [unlikely at this time] by the House the only way to do it?

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Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

thefadd.

Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 05:29:45 PM EST

none

Who cares. The larger picture is that the justice department is serially attacking and harassing black politicians at all levels of government.

make it rain you nappy headed ho's

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Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

pO157.

Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 05:54:25 PM EST

none

Are you serious?

I am genuinely curious.

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Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

thefadd.

Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 06:04:09 PM EST

none

I haven't been keeping clippings -- just what I pick up in the news along the way -- but in the last six years nearly every black mayor of a major US city has been the subject of a federal probe of some sort. It'd be worth a write-up, I think.

make it rain you nappy headed ho's

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Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

pO157.

Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 07:59:01 PM EST

none

If you are referring to the mayors of Camden, haven't they legitamately been guilty as sin? I don't know much about anywhere else though.

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Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

zyxwvutsr.

Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 08:29:44 PM EST

none

nearly every black mayor of a major US city has been the subject of a federal probe of some sort
Any of them turn out to be without merit?

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At least one did.

MayorBob.

Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 09:11:25 PM EST

none

There was that FBI wiretap of Mayor John Street's office right smack dab in the middle of the 2003 mayoral election.  As I recall, the feds wouldn't say what they were hoping to learn and the resultant blow up turned a tight election into a runaway for Street.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: At least one did.

zyxwvutsr.

Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 09:32:01 PM EST

none

Just because the mayor himself wasn't charged (or, apparently, being directly investigated) doesn't mean the investigation was without merit.

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Re: At least one did.

thefadd.

Thu Jun 14, 2007 at 11:06:15 PM EST

none

If you stuck a bug in every mayor's office, you'd net someone. The point is it was just the black ones. Off the top of my head, there was Detroit, too.

make it rain you nappy headed ho's

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Re: At least one did.

zyxwvutsr.

Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 07:17:49 AM EST

none

If you stuck a bug in every mayor's office, you'd net someone
Probably not. Anyway, do you know of any such investigation that turned out to be without merit?

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Re: At least one did.

MayorBob.

Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 07:59:22 AM EST

none

The bugs in Street's office turned up nothing (according to nameless sources in the Justice Department).  Ron White died before they could bring him to trial and the former city treasurer got nailed when a succession of bankers and business owners who were paying him off to do business with the city (Pay To Play is the operative term here) got reduced sentences in return for testimony against him.  Street came off looking like a victim in this whole thing and apparently there was no merit to wiretapping his office.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: At least one did.

zyxwvutsr.

Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 08:13:26 AM EST

none

Just because the mayor himself wasn't charged, or, apparently, even implicated in any wrongdoing, doesn't mean it was unreasonable to bug his office. I'd be a lot more inclined to consider the possibility that there was a massive conspiracy at the Justice Department (and we're talking huge, involving many US attorneys, probably scores of FBI agents, etc.) designed to target black mayors if there were a case or two that clearly showed no wrongdoing. Street's administration was not such a case because there were crooks in it. (One of whom was a close adviser to the mayor.)

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Re: At least one did.

thefadd.

Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 05:22:00 PM EST

none

racism doesn't take a conspiracy, nobody's alleging that. The probes in Detroit and Philadelphia were without merit and those were the major ones I recall but I vaguely recall a few others and will spend some time researching if I have it this weekend.

make it rain you nappy headed ho's

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Re: At least one did.

zyxwvutsr.

Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 05:32:15 PM EST

none

The probes in Detroit and Philadelphia were without merit...
I have already shown that the probe in Philadelphia had merit.

What happened in Detroit?

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Re: At least one did.

MayorBob.

Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 05:43:18 PM EST

none

You have shown that the city treasurer was indicted and convicted.  You haven't demonstrated that the wiretapping of Street's office had merit.  One assumes if it did, some of the tapes would have been entered into evidence, which they weren't.  BTW, get me right, I'm not alleging an anti-black conspiracy at play here -- just some sloppy investigatory work by the FBI.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: At least one did.

zyxwvutsr.

Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 06:01:10 PM EST

none

One assumes if it did, some of the tapes would have been entered into evidence, which they weren't
There was merit to the wiretap if there was probable cause. Producing useful evidence is not a reasonable standard.

And there was definitely sloppy work on the part of the FBI: someone found their bug.

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