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Pizza bombs and perfect crimes

Steve Urkel.

Posted to Legal on Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 02:56:07 PM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

The bread is crazy, and so are you.

Most crimes involve stupid people doing stupid things. With the truth about the infamous Pizza Bomb case finally coming out - maybe - it's only natural for one's mind to turn to the subject of, if not the perfect crime, at least the creative crime, or perhaps the artistic crime. Be it a jewel or art theft, the elaborate heist, the convoluted con, or even the matchless murder.

What's your diabolical scheme?  

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by Steve Urkel, pizza bomb, perfect crime (all tags)

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Re: Pizza bombs and perfect crimes

Toby Flip.

Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 08:21:48 PM EST

4.00 (funny)

All my perfect crimes involve the use of a time machine.  All i need to do is wait for my future self to send one back to me.  I hope he gets around to it soon.

I can't remember which in which book (maybe The Eiger Sanction) Trevanian described an art heist where the thieves had had forgeries of the artworks they planned to steal made up and then, when they stole the originals, replaced those originals with the forgeries.  The kicker was that the thieves then vandalized the forgeries to make it look like the originals had been vandalized and not stolen.  Trevanian wrote in a footnote to a later book (Shibumi, perhaps, it's the only other book I remember reading) that he could not reveal the details of some other fictitious crime because somebody had actually used this idea to commit an art-burglary.  Such incredible conceit, but I liked the books a lot at the time (I was about 12).

More than the exploding neck-manacle, it's the shot-gun cane I like the best because it is a) completely fantastic and b) peripheral and unnecessary to the actual plot.  I believe Vladmir Putin uses the exact same model when he is out on the streets of Moscow solving crimes.

 

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Re: Pizza bombs and perfect crimes

gerrymander.

Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 11:44:05 PM EST

4.00 (brilliant)

All i need to do is wait for my future self to send one back to me.  I hope he gets around to it soon.

Dude. Your future self has a time machine. Of course he'll only send it to you immediately after the crime is committed. Otherwise, it's just bait for the next set of guys who want a time machine, and you know they'll get it before your perfect crime is finished.

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Re: Pizza bombs and perfect crimes

Toby Flip.

Fri Jul 13, 2007 at 02:26:39 AM EST

4.00 (funny)

How did you know that‽  It's supposed to be a secret!

Are you my future self?

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artsy art crimes

Steve Urkel.

Fri Jul 13, 2007 at 02:20:05 PM EST

none

I can't find a link, but in the 80's or early 90's I think a group of European art forgers painted a bunch of fake paintings by various artists, then went to the main art libraries which dealers and museums use to check for records of these works and placed forged documents describin them in the catalogs (i.e. "It must be real, the library has a description of exactly that painting  being exhihbited in Belgium in 1953").

It was nearly perfect. They were only forging works from 2nd tier artists, so they weren't drawing excissve scruitny. The whole thing fell apart when one guys wife got mad at him and blew the whistle.

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Re: artsy art crimes

thefadd.

Fri Jul 13, 2007 at 03:15:58 PM EST

none

almost sounds like that woody allen movie.

make it rain you nappy headed ho's

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zyxwvutsr.

Fri Jul 13, 2007 at 06:56:46 PM EST

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Re: artsy art crimes

Steve Urkel.

Wed Jul 18, 2007 at 05:41:52 PM EST

none

Thanks for filling in the blank.

That made me think of a famous art forger, who found himself between a rock and a hard place:

http://denisdutton.com/van_meegeren.htm

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scenario 1

Steve Urkel.

Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 03:45:13 PM EST

none

You've heard of using an icicle as a murder weapon, which melts after you use it leaving no evidence. I had the idea of robbing a bank, and using an icemobile as my getaway car.

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Would you like something to eat?

Lou.

Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 04:09:51 PM EST

none

A long time ago, I read a story about a woman who bashed in her husband's brains with a frozen leg of lamb, and then cooked it.  She even offered a piece to the investigating officer.  Of course, that wouldn't work now what with NCIS type investigations. She'd be caught when they found lamb molecules in the dead guy's hair.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: Would you like something to eat?

MayorBob.

Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 07:22:31 PM EST

4.00 (informative, informative)

That was an old Alfred Hitchcock Presents show on TV.  As I recall, both detectives sat down to a heapin' helping of the murdering wife's hospitality.  One of the cops stopped in mid-mouthful and asked the other if he thought they would ever find the murder weapon.  The other detective just looked up from his forkful of lamb and said "for all we know, it might be right under our noses."

I loved that series.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Found it.

MayorBob.

Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 07:39:25 PM EST

none

The title of the episode was Lamb to the Slaughter.  The wife was played by Barbara Bel Geddes, whom you might remember best as Miss Ellie from Dallas.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: Found it.

Ellen Ripley.

Sat Jul 14, 2007 at 04:12:17 PM EST

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Based on a Roald Dahl short story.

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My Favorite

thefadd.

Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 05:17:52 PM EST

none

My favorite bank robbery concept was Bill Murray's (or rightly I suppose it belongs to the writers Jay Cronley and Howard Franklin) in the 1990 film Quick Change. Haven't seen it in quite awhile but at the time I thought it was the funniest first 30 minutes to a movie I'd ever seen. It doesn't end terribly but it's just not possible to top the heist concept.

Bill Murray is a clown who robs a bank. He takes hostages, except 2 of them are plants. He puts the money on the plants -- Randy Quaid and Geena Davis -- then releases them with a couple other hostages. After brief questioning, the police let them go. Finally, Murray's character locks the rest of the hostages in the vault, gets out of the clown costume and releases a final hostage -- himself, leaving the cops to believe that the crisis is still unfolding inside the bank. If you're a Bill Murray fan, you know he pulls this all off brilliantly.

make it rain you nappy headed ho's

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Steve Urkel.

Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 05:39:48 PM EST

4.00 (funny, funny)

The security guard (played by Bob Elliott, if I remember right) asks Murray "What kind of clown are you?" and he says "The crying on the inside kind, I guess."

In some countries they have "postal banks", combined post offices and bank branches, kind of a hold over from the past. To prevent robberies the clerks are behind a screen or bulletproof glass of some sort. According to a report in an Italian newspaper I read (so who knows if it was true), some guys showed up with a large package to mail. The staff took it into the secured area, and a midget popped out of the package and they robbed the place.

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Re: Pizza bombs and perfect crimes

thefadd.

Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 05:32:27 PM EST

none

I was very intrigued by the pizza bomber case when it first happened. It's almost like an X-Files episode, in fact, I think it was an early X-Files episode. It's sort of a terror catch-22 -- being forced to commit a crime at the pain of death.

In a sense, this new evidence vindicates the police. The man who died was part of the plot and not a completely innocent victim as he had claimed. Still, I don't understand why the police didn't endeavor more keenly to free him from the bomb. Even if he was lying about being a pawn -- which he apparently was -- it still would have behooved investigators to ensure his survival for continued questioning. It's hardly surprising that given his capture his fellow conspirators pulled the trigger on him to ensure he couldn't rat them out.

I can see this being an "ingenious" plan in a movie or while you're high on drugs but I do understand the police's skepticism in dealing with the man's story. It did (apparently) turn out he was lying. But it's still a scary proposition and I still feel the cops screwed it up a bit.

make it rain you nappy headed ho's

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