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Lifestyles So Rich And Famous Robin Leach Will Get Jealous

pO157.

Posted to Etcetera on Sat Jul 07, 2007 at 08:07:14 AM EST (promoted by 1fastdog). RSS.

The number of people worldwide who make the filthy rich seem like pikers is expanding, and so is the gap between them and the less-well-to-do, according to The Financial Times.

The number of "ultra high net worth" individuals (those with assets of at least $30M) shot up a remarkable 11.3% last year, and the amount of assets they control rose to $13.1 trillion between 94,970 people.

Interestingly, the fastest growth occurred in Singapore, India, Indonesia, Russia, United Arab Emirates, and China, and appeared to stagnate in Europe and North America, although these continents already control more than half of the world's wealthiest people.

While some argue that the rich are doing the rest of us a favor, (in America they pay an estate tax the vast majority of us will never fall into, employ recent business graduates as low-level wealth managers, and engage in philanthropy), others claim that those profiting the most off capitalism (or at least hoarding the most cash) are actually harming everybody else through various and sundry mechanisms.

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Clever way around the estate tax...

port1080.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 at 11:48:53 AM EST

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Get married right before you die!  No tax on property transfers from spouse to spouse.  If gay marriage ever really does take off, some clever entrepreneur is going to figure out a way to use that loophole...and then the communists will take over.  Mark my words.

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Re: Clever way around the estate tax...

pO157.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 at 12:09:57 PM EST

3.50 (funny, funny)

Maybe they could roll that into a service offering deathbed religious conversions and make it a two-fer.

"Get your deathbed gay marriage and your absolution right here! We'll even do it in the right order so you don't have to do the second one twice!"

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Robin Speaks

Lou.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 at 11:32:01 AM EST

3.00 (funny, funny)

THE GAP BETWEEN THE OBSCENELY RICH AND THE MERELY FILTHY RICH IS GROWING...AND I DON'T KNOW WHY!

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: Lifestyles So Rich And Famous Robin Leach Will

zyxwvutsr.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 at 09:56:00 AM EST

none

They should have a caviar eating contest. For rich folks.

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Caviar? Feh!

3fingerspointback.

Fri Jul 13, 2007 at 11:58:47 AM EST

none

If we extrapolate Mike Tyson's fine for biting Evander Holyfield, we see that Bill Gates could afford to devour the entire boxer.

(is 3fingerspointback)

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Re: Lifestyles So Rich And Famous Robin Leach Will

pO157.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 at 10:19:53 AM EST

none

Everybody bitches and moans about the disparity between the rich and the poor and how that will create trouble. However, its been that way for centuries, won't change anytime soon.

Also, why do the mega rich (at least the ones who earned their cash the hard way, not through gifts or inheiritance) always seem to need tools to manage their money for them? If they were smart enough to build their fortune/empire, they must be better at investing and making bucks than some random overpaid college grad with magic hair, right?

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marginal dollar value

wetkarma.

Mon Jul 09, 2007 at 06:41:58 AM EST

5.00 (astute, brilliant)

Consider if you will that you are a fan of computer games. If you are 'rich' you can create a computer gaming system in the thousands or perhaps tens of thousands of dollars. However there are comes a point where even if you are 'richer than rich', that you can't really spend more money at buying a better gaming experience.

The difference in lifestyle between a billionaire and a multi-billionaire is one of style vs. substance. At a certain asset level money has less value than time. Therefore you farm out the management of your wealth to others because your time has risen exponentially in value.

I doubt you spend much time getting clean water or assuring for yourself the next days meal. However many people in the world do spend much of their lives engaged in precisely this activity. Wealth management is simply the outsourcing of something which is no longer "core" to someone's lifestyle.

Memory is a strange bell, jubilee and knell.

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For The Same Reason

uncarved block.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 at 12:05:52 PM EST

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    Why have someone else manage your money? Well, I'd guess a lot of those folks also don't do their own laundry, or clean their houses, or raise their kids without a little help. There's only so many hours in a day, and the more you have, the more you have to do. And I've also heard that learning how and when to delegate responsibility and work is what separates managers from workers.

    However, it's been that way for centuries

    You could probably make that millenia. Rome was (in)famous for disparities in income, after all, as well as China. Whether or not these are models to follow or avoid remains an open question-- the fact that many of the Founders were influenced by the Romans isn't considered often enough, IMO. And while the actual peacefulness of normal life in the last couple centuries has been better than ever historically, those who lived (or didn't!) through the two World Wars might not agree that everything has been peaches and cream either. The degree to which the rich and ultra-rich had anything to do with the violence I'll leave to radicals like Ezra Pound . . .

Ex ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras

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Re: For The Same Reason

ms sue.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 at 03:11:51 PM EST

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Well, I'd guess a lot of those folks also don't do their own laundry, or clean their houses, or raise their kids without a little help.

Those folks, plus a good chunk of your run-of-the-mill two-income families.

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That's Right

uncarved block.

Mon Jul 09, 2007 at 11:34:48 AM EST

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   One of the the things I meant to imply by that comment was that all of these behaviors- including having someone else manage you money- extends so far down the income ladder that they could be considered normal. The argument over Fitzgerald's remark, "the rich are different from us" will never be resolved, but you can place me firmly in the Hemingway camp of skeptics.

Ex ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras

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Re: Lifestyles So Rich And Famous Robin Leach Will

joshv.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 at 05:17:47 PM EST

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Well, if I'd just made $100 million selling my high tech company, I probably would have no idea how to invest it.  I was an expert in technology afterall, not investment.

That being said, I am sure most people could probably manage $100 million on their own after getting a recommendation on asset allocation.  Hell, I bet I could buy $1 million chunks of mutual funds online using Schwab.com.  You could probably keep tabs on your money in only a few hours a week, and save loads on service fees and overhead.

Which makes me thing of a funny story.  Recently I rolled over a largish 401k into my Schwab account.  It wasn't an obscene amount of money, but it was the result of many years of 401k investment, and so triggered some sort of threshhold in the call center when I asked how to handle the roll over.  Suddenly they wanted to refer me, 'lil ole me, to some sort of "wealth management" group, that would handle the whole thing for me, so I wouldn't have to trouble myself with the nitty-gritty details.

After a few minutes on the phone, I realized what was going on, and further realized that said services would probably take a healthy chunk out of the roll-over check, and politely asked the girl to walk me through the "nitty-gritty".  It turned out all I had to do was have the check made out specially, and mail it to a particular address.  Wow, I imagine I might have paid somebody $5 to do that for me.  I don't think that was the sum Schwab had in mind...

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Re: Lifestyles So Rich And Famous Robin Leach Will

pO157.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 at 10:07:27 PM EST

none

Well, if I'd just made $100 million selling my high tech company, I probably would have no idea how to invest it.  

You know what I would do if I had a [hundred] million dollars? I would invest half of it in low risk mutual funds and then take the other half over to my friend Asadulah who works in securities.

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Misleading Headline

thefadd.

Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 01:43:23 PM EST

none

The thing is, the headline is a little misleading. I've always sort of wondered how "fame and fortune" became so intertwined--is it a Hollywood thing? Aside from the top couple, the "ultra rich" for the most part aren't all that famous. They don't do things -- either in their work or play -- to garner fame and (thought I don't know them personally) I'd easily reckon they have no desire for fame. The people who make their money off of being famous are FAR from the richest people in the world and, indeed, often lose their riches with their fame...which makes them re-famous on VH-1, giving them new riches which they just lose all over again--what a nasty cycle. People tend to want fame or fortune but not both.

make it rain you nappy headed ho's

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