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Kid Nation: Reality TV gone wrong?

pO157.

Posted to Legal on Sat Aug 25, 2007 at 07:40:54 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

On September 19, 2007, CBS will air its latest reality TV show in a time slot that once held that of the post-nuclear war dystopia, Jericho. "Kid Nation" is a bit more controversial than other reality shows of the past because it involves young children and alleged unsafe conditions.

The show is set at the Bonanza Creek Ranch, south of Santa Fe, NM. It is a working cattle ranch spread across thousands of empty desert acres and grazing land, but also has a ghost town setup which has seen the likes of "Silverado" and "Legend of the Lone Ranger" shot there. Kid Nation features 40 children from across the country (ages 8-15) who live in the old ghost town without adult supervision for 40 days and are responsible for all governmental and business functions and tasks needed to keep the town going. While there are no eliminations, each episode brings the chance for the children to vote one lucky towns person a "Gold Star" worth $20,000 in cash. Because nobody can be kicked off the show conflict is introduced by forcing the children and their government to choose between necessities and luxury items on a regular basis, as well as assigning the children widely disparate wages and salaries.

The whole concept is controversial. Even the producer compared the show to the classic "Lord of the Flies" although in this case several staff members were present at the ghost town to do filming, but did not interact with the children except as needed to record the events.

Critics pointed to payments to participant's parents of a $5,000 stipend for their child's involvement in the show. A leaked copy of a blanket waiver approved by the parents was also obtained by The Smoking Gun.com which appears sign almost all of the child's rights away, including: no contact with the children unless through producers, the right to sue if the child died was waived, was harmed, or contracted a sexually transmitted disease. Medical care could be provided to the children by personnel who the studio made no guarantee about their "qualifications or credentials." There was a waiver of all privacy rights for the child, unless they were actually "in the process of showering, bathing, urinating, or defecating." In addition, children were subject to search of their persons and possessions by any means, including x-rays. This was all topped off by a confidentiality clause demanding absolute secrecy under penalty of a $5M fine.

There were also issues of child labor law violations, and show staff admit that due to legal disputes with the State of New Mexico, whose inspectors were allegedly denied access to the set and children 3 times, a venue where the next show may be held legally will be tough to find.

CBS and producers respond by saying "These kids were in good hands and under good care with procedures and safety structures that arguably rival or surpass any school or camp in the country." CBS also says child labor laws do not apply because the children are not 'working' as "The cameras are following people through an experience but those people are not working in the same way that one normally thinks of working a job." In addition, laws normally preventing the children from 'working' as many as 14 hours a day did not apply because of NM exemptions on minors participating in theatrical activities. They point to possible benefits the show can give participants, such as according to a communications professor, "When a parent sends a child into this situation, there's a good chance that it could help the child build self-confidence, build social skills and build a network."The LA Times interviewed four children who participated in the show, and all four stated that they would do it again if given the chance.

Whatever happened in Season One, it obviously has not dissuaded CBS from trying again. If you are not freaked out by the above, CBS has begun casting for Kid Nation 2, and if your child is between 8 and 15 you can sign them up.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by pO157, CBS, Kid Nation, Kid Nation II, New Mexico, Santa Fe, child rights, law, sexually transmitted disease, STD, death, ghost town, stipend, labor law, Reality TV, Kid Nation 2, Jehrico, Jericho (all tags)

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Re: Kid Nation: Reality TV gone wrong?

DEMachina.

Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 02:44:28 PM EST

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I'm not really sure how I feel about this.

It's an intriguing idea to the armchair sociologist in me.  I'd be interested to see if this results in similar problems to those of larger societies.  There's this quote by a sociologist in <u>The Stand</u>:


"Show me a man or a woman alone and I'll show you a saint. Give me two and they'll fall in love. Give me three and they'll invent that charming thing we call 'society.' Give me four and they'll build a pyramid. Give me five and they'll make one an outcast. Give me six and they'll reinvent prejudice. Give me seven and in seven years they'll reinvent warfare."

As for the safety of the kids...I dunno.  The release seems pretty standard to me, and as it's definitely a contract of adhesion I'm not sure how 100% enforceable it'd be regardless.  But I'm not a lawyer (yet), so I'm not sure.  I also can't imagine that if one of the kids were seriously injured they're not going to have people there who can do something about it.

I think frankly we underestimate kids.  I remember listening to a guy on NPR once who was talking about the reason adolescence is such a miserable period for people these days, and the reason being they don't have any real part that matters.  Two hundred years ago someone who was 17 would be making a meaningful contribution to his family's income and welfare if male, and would be on the way to getting married if female (but even then would have responsibilities around the house).  I think we underestimate just how good it feels to be doing something meaningful and making meaningful contributions to society.  That's probably why those kids said they'd do it again: I bet that's the first time in their lives they'd felt like they were doing something meaningful.

Finally, as for child labor laws, meh.  Given the laws' purpose, I'm not sure what the big deal is.  Besides, it's up to the parents and the kids to decide if they want to do it; I'm not sure it's our place to second-guess.

Q: What do you think of western civilization? Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.

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Re: Kid Nation: Reality TV gone wrong?

ms sue.

Mon Aug 27, 2007 at 09:30:47 AM EST

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The release seems pretty standard to me

Do you mean standard for the entertainment industry? Are all such releases  a "22-page, single-spaced, legally exhaustive contract allowing them to whisk your child to unspecified "remote" and "inherently dangerous" locations."

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Re: Kid Nation: Reality TV gone wrong?

thefadd.

Mon Aug 27, 2007 at 01:55:44 PM EST

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Are all such releases a "22-page, single-spaced, legally exhaustive contract allowing them to whisk your child to unspecified "remote" and "inherently dangerous" locations."

Yes.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: Kid Nation: Reality TV gone wrong?

DEMachina.

Mon Aug 27, 2007 at 09:37:41 AM EST

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"Standard" in the sense that every media company or whatever almost certainly covers their ass as completely as possible.  I suspect the release the people who were on Survivor had to sign was pretty similar.

And your way of phrasing it almost makes it seem like kidnapping, so I'm not sure that's fair.  It's not going out to humiliate people the way some reality TV shows are or otherwise be out-and-out cruel, but I can definitely see why someone would question the morality of such a show.

Q: What do you think of western civilization? Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.

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Re: Kid Nation: Reality TV gone wrong?

pO157.

Mon Aug 27, 2007 at 12:37:17 PM EST

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"Standard" in the sense that every media company or whatever almost certainly covers their ass as completely as possible.

The thought of a random studio lawyer pondering in advance the chances of 10 year olds giving each other STDs and deciding that the possibility was high enough to put it in a standard waiver kind of creeps me out.

Spread it on!

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Re: Kid Nation: Reality TV gone wrong?

ms sue.

Mon Aug 27, 2007 at 05:38:15 PM EST

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And your way of phrasing it almost makes it seem like kidnapping, so I'm not sure that's fair.

I was actually just quoting from the article to which I linked. I in now way think that this even remotely resembles a kidnapping. The parents quoted in said article were all too willing and eager.

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Re: Kid Nation: Reality TV gone wrong?

thefadd.

Mon Aug 27, 2007 at 07:18:09 PM EST

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It wouldn't be unfair to characterize the production of any reality television show as a kidnapping of the participants. One must seriously question the mental health of anyone willing to go on one of these shows, let alone send someone else, and in fact most of us in the business do so on a very regular basis.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Divorce Court is the next reality

pO157.

Mon Aug 27, 2007 at 08:02:29 AM EST

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Just wait until one of the couples who signed off on the show gets divorced. I can see the proceedings now:

Your honor, my ex-wife allowed my daughter to be shipped off to a New Mexico desert with no supervision for 40 days to be watched by viewers around the country... some of whom may have been felons or unsavory characters! For $5,000!

Spread it on!

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