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Up Your Legs For Yale

thefadd.

Posted to SciTech on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 10:48:50 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

George Bush, Meryl Streep, Dick Cavett, Hillary Clinton (nee Rodham), Bob Woodward. It's a weird who's who of...who's posed nude for science. Huh? Dick Cavett tells it best:

When I was an undergraduate . . . there were no women [ at Yale ] . The women went to Vassar. At Vassar they had nude photographs taken of women in gym class to check their posture. One year the photos were stolen and turned up for sale in New Haven's red-light district. The photos found no buyers.

Actually, he tells it rather poorly. Nude "posture" photos were taken of all incoming freshman at the major northeastern halls of intellectualism -- Harvard, Yale, Vassar -- the entire Ivy League and its "Seven Sisters" for a period of about 30 years after world war two. Metal pins were stuck in the subjects and nude photos taken for eugenics posterity.

The fallout is at first shocking, but then just odd and puzzling. These are our current political and cultural leaders -- a generation's worth -- naked before our eyes, "victimized" by a possibly nazi-inspired "social improvement" project. In the end, though, the upside is little more than further embarrassment for the de la mode attitude of ivory tower leadership.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by thefadd, Yale, Ivy League, Nude Photos (all tags)

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Up Your Legs For Yale

thefadd.

Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 01:02:34 PM EST

none

This was an out of left field story and I wasn't sure it was deserving of a write-up. Sure the new york times dedicated 11 pages to it but I couldn't even get through the whole article. It just seemed link wank material in so many ways.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Back when he had a late night talk show ...

MayorBob.

Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 02:07:04 PM EST

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... Cavett used to be called "Little Dickie Cavett."  Now the world can find out how close to the truth that was.  We could also determine who had the biggest set of nuts between Bush and Gore (well you could, I'll take a pass).

From what I remember about the pictures of Hillary from back in the day, she looked like an over earnest bookworm and not someone I would rate as hawt.  This raises the question of whether nude shots of her would work against her or in her favor now.  Hey, it's a relevant political question.  After all, look at how much newsprint that glimpse of cleavage got recently.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: Back when he had a late night talk show ...

keta.

Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 03:53:38 PM EST

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Just because the msm pushed her decolletage off a cliff doesn't mean the rest of us boobs should do the same.

Or something.

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This raises another question.

MayorBob.

Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 04:00:47 PM EST

none

Seeing as how the msm also went ga-ga over Nancy Pelosi's cleavage or decolletage why are they just doing this to Democrats?  Why didn't the msm feature boobage shots from Condi Rice or Laura Bush?

Or something.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: This raises another question.

keta.

Thu Aug 09, 2007 at 03:08:08 PM EST

5.00 (informative)

Did you say Laura Bush?  (NSFW)

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You know...

Lou.

Thu Aug 09, 2007 at 06:45:44 PM EST

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Ok...inappropriate, disrespectful, and tacky...but I have to say, for a middle-aged woman married to GW, Laura is kinda hot.  Plus, George is way ahead of his dad in terms of FLILF.  I mean...ever notice how no one ever did a nude mash-up of Barbara...yeeegh.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: You know...

MayorBob.

Thu Aug 09, 2007 at 07:02:56 PM EST

none

Anyone who would get wood from a nude mashup of Barbara Bush would have to have some sort of kink on for George Washington.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: You know...

thefadd.

Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 12:30:45 AM EST

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ah, you've been watching little bush. that episode may just have *finally* sold me on the show. they do seem to be getting funnier which is at least a good sign.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Just More Fodder

uncarved block.

Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 01:37:59 PM EST

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for my default assumption that life is, and always has been, a lot weirder than folks like to admit-- either then or later. Any more, the most delusional assertion I can think of is the notion that there's somehow a vast majority of "reasonable" Americans who are being led astray by minority factions (whether through the courts, deception, or public policy depends on the speaker), when in fact, it looks from this keyboard as if everybody has an irrational streak that helps determine their actions. That this irrationality extends to the very top of the government and higher learning should come as a shock to nobody who's delved into the non-canonical history at all. (Jon Ronson's The Men Who Stare At Goats may not be the best place to start, but it's current, and an interesting read. Them has a wider scope, and benefits from not being about Top Secret subject matter.)
    Should the "ivory tower" establishment be embarrassed? Sure, but I can't heap too much derision on them. Sheldon was apparently very dedicated to his task, and he even had the benefit of pop culture for a while to add pressure to deans and presidents who might have said no. Hard work and perseverance can get you very, very far in life, and I have a good deal of sympathy for those who finally succumb to the pressure of the zealous. If you want to mock anyone, do so for those who roll over without a fight for absurd claims (like the Washington press corps), or those who knowingly present shitty information for narrow (and/or partisan) advantage.

Ex ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras

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Re: Just More Fodder

thefadd.

Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 05:13:22 PM EST

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I was actually thinking about this at lunch today for completely different reasons. The norm is a very thin line that holds no special power other than it's already been established as accepted. The best guess I have to explain it all is that for the most part, most people really are making it all up as they go along. This is why most of the time people simply copy others. Mindlessly copying the established precedent is, after all, the basis of our legal system. Our best hope is that here and there someone does something right and everyone else reinforces that particular notion.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Two References

uncarved block.

Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 05:30:57 PM EST

none

    Just to add to a story before it falls off the front page ;)

    Robert Anton Wilson had an interesting line: "Reality is where rival shamans have agreed to stop fighting and called a truce." (The implication that modern life is a veneer over the "primitive" is direct, and developed in some of his other books.) I think about this a lot in politics, especially when I read someone like Neal Boortz who seems to be living in an entirely different America than myself and many others.)
    Finally got a copy of Nietzsche's Gay Science, and he has an interesting segment (re: someone doing something right and then being imitated) asserting that there's a collection of errors that were needed for early man to survive and prosper-- a belief in cause and effect, a habit of finding connections that may not exist, and so on. Fred's concern, picked up by others, is that what helped folks survive in the Bronze Age and classic Roman times may be dangerous, even fatal in a modern society. (Granted, he was living in a Germany that was gearing up to fight two world wars and take antisemitism to unparalleled depths, so his pessimism should be taken with a grain of salt.) Still, his larger argument that error- the "evil"- might actually do more good than harm is worth pondering. Is the legal system's reliance on precedent any different than that of society as a whole, for instance? I'll have to think about that at work tomorrow . . .

Ex ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras

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