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Sports Still A Cultural Battlefield

thefadd.

Posted to Sport on Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 07:39:10 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

Those who thought the time of Muhammad Ali's use of the athletic bull pulpit to further a social agenda were dead...were wrong. While issues of race bubble just under the surface of the many sports related issues, few athletes today have the balls to make honest observations of the world around them.

No stranger to race controversy, Philadelphia Eagles starting quarterback Donovan McNabb spoke at length with HBO's James Brown regarding the subject of race in America. His comments have sparked a wide ranging debate within the sports world -- a debate about quarterbacks, about football and not least of all about the world both exist in. Said McNabb:

There are not that many African-American quarterbacks, so we have to do a little bit extra.

Only this past year did two black head coaches face off in the Super Bowl. In reaction, "The Media" suffered an enormous engorged love fest for the black american. Yet when one of "those people" seeks to speak his mind, the haters don't pause. McNabb's position is a peculiar one in this debate as he has been the highly visible subject of criticism by noted hate-monger Rush Limbaugh but he has also been roundly criticized as a "company man," half a step short of an uncle tom.

Is this a new freedom and new found sense of power within the modern America athlete? Or simply a fading quarterback grasping at the fading straws of stardom?

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Re: Sports Still A Cultural Battlefield

zyxwvutsr.

Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 07:49:14 PM EST

1.00 (obnoxious)

What's an "bull pulpit?" Is it a breed of dog? Does Muhammad Ali own a kennel outfitted with a rape stand?

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thefadd.

Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 10:48:52 PM EST

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It's the pulpit reserved for your comments.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: Sports Still A Cultural Battlefield

zyxwvutsr.

Sat Sep 22, 2007 at 08:12:10 AM EST

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Then what business does Muhammad Ali have using it?

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Lou.

Sat Sep 22, 2007 at 09:38:37 AM EST

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It's supposed to be "bully pulpit"...but you already new that, didn't you?

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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typing to fast

Lou.

Sat Sep 22, 2007 at 09:39:28 AM EST

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"knew"

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: typing too fast

zyxwvutsr.

Sat Sep 22, 2007 at 10:37:10 AM EST

none

"knew"
This whole discussion has become a comedy of errors.

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Don't have a ton of time -- I'll make this short.

MayorBob.

Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 09:30:42 AM EST

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I am an unabashed Eagles fan and have been for my entire adolescence and adult life.  As a season ticket holder, I attend all home games.  I have stood (not sat) up in the stands through the entire Donovan McNabb era, screaming my support of the Eagles and McNabb.  I learned to love Terrell Owens for what he gave the team that magic year when he hadn't become a cancer on the team and I learned to loathe him for being the self-serving cancer he was back in San Francisco.

Having said all that, when McNabb makes a content-free accusation against the fans and media in Philly because he's black and he doesn't get his props and "nobody wanted him to be a QB", I have to say, "bullshit, Donovan."  He's right about one thing, as a starting QB in the NFL, you're expected to do a little bit more.  Note, I didn't say black or white starting QB.  I said starting QB period.  What you're supposed to do is lead, not divide the team.  You're supposed to earn the millions of dollars you're paid by scoring touchdowns and winning games.  This is not what McNabb is doing now.  He is failing miserably and publicly and then piling on top of himself by playing the race card.

Message to Donovan -- nobody wants you to succeed more than the long suffering fans in Philly.  The media will be more than happy to print happy talk about you, if only they had some to print.  Right now, what we have is a season about to unravel because management didn't sign the right talent, or enough of it, to catch balls, the defense is leaking oil, special teams were neglected, and our main weapon may be injured.  Oh yeah, and our starting QB is playing more like Bart Simpson than Bart Starr.  No, you're not the only reason and the only target of everyone's ire.  But, you're the starting QB and, fair or not, the starting QB is usually the first place to begin pointing fingers when things go south.

One black QB did manage to do a little bit more this past Monday night -- it's a shame he had to be the black QB in the Redskins jersey however.

 

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: Don't have a ton of time -- I'll make this sho

thefadd.

Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 01:00:51 PM EST

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For me, the thing of it is, Carson Palmer got a 100% free pass last season. His Bengals had won the division the year before and had major Super Bowl hopes, like Philadelphia. Still, it was all "Carson's coming back from surgery," "Give Carson some time." That's gotta irk McNabb and make him wonder why -- despite how hard he's pushed himself to get back so fast -- he doesn't get an inch of slack.

One could argue McNabb plays in a much tougher town, but the national media -- which has often been kinder to him than his own -- has been equally as impatient with the guy. If you look at his throws it's just 100% obvious that he's missing high because he isn't planting that knee hard enough which is keeping him from following through with the arm and kicking up the back leg. It's the kind of fundamentals that anyone with "football analyst" in his job title has got to understand, unless he's being intellectually lazy. They have been overly tough on McNabb and I wouldn't doubt for a second that it's because he's black.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: Don't have a ton of time -- I'll make this sho

port1080.

Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 02:53:57 PM EST

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A big part of that is Palmer's age, though.  He's at the beginning of the mid-point of his career, and should have six or seven good seasons in him.  McNabb has probably got at best three or four more really good years.  If it takes him a full season to recover from this, he's down to two or three.  On top of that, he's been bitching that the Eagles hired young talent to back him up (with obvious eyes on being a replacement).  That's life in the NFL - the gracious thing is to do what Drew Bledsoe did and be a mentor to the kid, not bitch and moan in public that the fans hate you and management's throwing you under the bus, all because you're black (even though the exact same thing has happened to many other white QBs in many other cities in many other teams across the league).

Ce n'est pas une pipe. C'est une signature.

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Re: Don't have a ton of time -- I'll make this sho

thefadd.

Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 03:50:15 PM EST

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Drew Bledsoe was 800 years old when he was brought in specifically to mentor Romo. Sure Palmer is younger but McNabb is still young by NFL QB standards. Plenty of guys don't even get to start until 30. I actually like what Phil Sheridan said:

It comes down to this. I don't think McNabb is right in this case, but I understand why he feels the way he does. And that's kind of a shame in itself.

He can't really bring himself to accept that McNabb is right but he can't find a way to prove him wrong either. I think people who say the US has come a long way and that the NFL especially is well ahead of society on the race relations curve are right. But I think we oughta pause before saying that make McNabb's comments wrong. I don't think his comments were that strong in the first place.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Overreaction?

uncarved block.

Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 12:23:27 PM EST

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    Let me start by recalling one of my favorite lines from Raymond Chandler, as Marlowe is cooling his heels in an office at police headquarters, "The air in the room was as flat and stale as a football interview." Over time, the accuracy of this statement has only grown on me-- with a few notable exceptions, this is as true now as it was in the 50s.
    So did McNabb think this was "explosive" or "provocative" when he said it? I have my doubts, because it hinges on what you think, "a little bit extra" means in the context of an NFL quarterback. I definitely don't think it means "twice as good", in fact, I think it refers to what the writeup hints at in the "company man" link-- I remember Karl Malone (albeit in the NBA) being referred to as "the whitest black man alive", which is a kind of pressure white QBs never have to face, I'd guess. Every NFL QB is supposed to win every game, and take their team to the Superbowl, which are high enough expectations to be sure; what I think McNabb is getting at is that a black QB also has to do it with a certain style, with a certain panache.
    Does the NFL still have some issues with race? I'll agree with nmiguy that the league is light years ahead of the larger society on the matter, and probably has been for years. Which is also one way to parse McNabbs comments, as a player- not the first and hardly the last- who wonders why life can't be as good outside the lines as it is inside. YMMV.
    All that being so, it was still a dumb thing to say. If you think the media and fans are going to blow anything you say out of proportion- and Philly fans certainly sound like they fit the bill- then you've got to be smart enough not to give them an excuse to go into hyperventilation mode once again. Save it for your memoirs; the fans still won't like it, but they won't be able to raise the same ruckus if aren't "sabotaging the team" either.

Oh, and to restate an earlier comment from when Limbaugh's comments first got him canned: the problem was less what he said than where he said it. That very week, IIRC, ESPN had run a segment on a white free safety who talked about how perceptions and the position. Clearly, the network wasn't, and remains, unafraid about addressing race-- with the right program. Limbaugh's problem was that he brought race into what was supposed to the pure sports part of the programming; if he'd said the same thing for an Outside the Lines segment, he would have gotten a lot of heat, but ESPN might not have fired him. (They might not have aired the segment, either, but that's another matter.) As I recall, Limbaugh was already showing that he was having trouble mixing with the other broadcasters. IMO, this was an excuse to drop a developing problem before it got any worse. In short, the guy had already misread the "script" once, and it was time for him to go.

Ex ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras

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Re: Overreaction?

thefadd.

Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 12:53:33 PM EST

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Your first three paragraphs are a very astute observation and a new way of looking at it for me. I'll play devil's advocate on the fourth paragraph, though, and say, what if McNabb understands exactly what you're getting at there and is trying to effect the panache in some awkward feeling out stage kind of way. Since Kolb got drafted and they fired his personal PR guy who he promptly just hired himself, he's been speaking his mind a lot more. Perhaps to this end, he's understanding his Philadelphia sports history and pulling a bit of Mike Schmidt. Schmidt was derided to ends that McNabb doesn't even know but finally found acceptance among the fans exactly when he began to fight back.

Just look at how the Philly media has reacted to this as opposed to the national media. They aren't trying to kill him for it. Suddenly, it's "McNabb Stands By His Comments" and "McNabb is his own person." Is it is a stretch for McNabb to know his Philly sports history and media so well? Definitely. But it's not such a stretch for his PR guy Berg, a Philadelphia sports and media lifer.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Thanks For The Info

uncarved block.

Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 01:54:01 PM EST

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about the Philly media, and the Schmidt history in particular. That makes it a little more sensible, though I wonder whether Gumbel's show was the best place to start that kind of campaign.
    Do you think McNabb's staying in Philadelphia, though? One of those links hinted heavily that he's looking at the marketplace, because he may be getting shopped around at this very moment, at least as far as management is concerned. If so, placating the Philly fans seems like less of a benefit than irking the national media is a demerit. OTOH, leaving town on a high note must have benefits for McNabb emotionally, and that may be all that matters if he knows his best days are in the past. I believe it's hard for anyone to imagine the kind of abuse public figures like McNabb have to deal with every day, so judging their motives is always tricky . . .

Ex ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras

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Re: Thanks For The Info

thefadd.

Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 03:45:45 PM EST

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Yeah, I should hesitate to try to crawl so far up into his head. Joe Banner, the owner's right hand man and salary cap guru is known for cutting players loose once they reach a certain age. It's hard to believe they'd do that with the quarterback when they made such a big deal upon taking over the team about having a franchise QB who is the face of the franchise for years and years. Perhaps they've noticed that Philadelphia is desirous of a white quarterback.

Gumbel's show is hardly the starting point, though it's an obvious escalation. The starting point was hiring the PR guy the Eagles fired then holding a non-team sanctioned press conference off of team property, followed by criticizing management's decision to release the veteran linebacker Trotter.

You gotta think Donovan has his eye on Chicago, since he's from there and they need an obvious upgrade from Grossman. Maybe he has said screw it, they might as well cut my ties while I'm still young enough to land a 2nd big contract and perhaps he can talk his way out of town. The paradoxical thing, though, is that the Philly press hasn't even come close to condemning McNabb's comments. See: "Reaction Proves Race Is Still An Issue," "Was Barkley Right?" "McNabb Stands By Comments," "Lot of Talking About McNabb, Little Understanding." The condemnation has all been from the national media. Maybe that's the contrarian in the Philly media and maybe it's that they embrace a controversial figure because he makes their lives easier. Hell, maybe this is McNabb's way of deflecting the attention away from Kolb and back onto him.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Love, like in the 80's Still A Battlefield

Steve Urkel.

Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 04:12:06 PM EST

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McNabb's remarks are ridiculous. For example, he cites Jake Plummer, a guy who lost his starting job and was repeatedly booed by his own fans as a quarterback who didnt get crtiticized the way he does. And how would even know? Does he really pay careful attention to how fans and media treat quarterbacks on other teams? Obviously not.

But then elite athletes live in a bubble, and many say ridiculous things. It would be nice if the pro-black media treated the remarks of white athletes with as much politeness as they do the remarks of a has-been like McNabb.

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