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Guns & Sensationalism [editorial]

DEMachina.

Posted to Media on Mon Sep 10, 2007 at 10:40:05 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

With the recent release reports regarding the Virginia Tech shooting last spring, as well as a new story here on TnT on the subject, I thought I'd address a flawed article I found soon after this happened.  This is from my diary, but I got a request to submit it as a story, so here we are.

I came across this article from Newsweek, entitled "A Day in the Life of a 9mm." Like any other tragedy, the shooting at Tech has brought out the extremists on both sides, which is nothing new. I also find myself a little puzzled why there's so much more fuss around 33 deaths in America when more than 70,000 people have died in Iraq (that website only tallies confirmed deaths, so the real total is doubtless higher).

The article is trying to demonize specifically 9mm handguns (I think). It seems pretty clear the authors aren't really concerned with guns or logic.

I'll now take this piece by piece:


When Cho Seung-Hui armed himself with a 9mm Glock for his rampage (he also carried a .22-caliber Walther) he was standing in a tradition of bloodshed stretching back more than a century, adding to a toll that almost certainly dwarfs that of the legendary Colt six-shooters. German officers in World War I shot deserters with their Lugers, the original 9mm semiautomatic. When four New York City cops mistakenly unleashed a fusillade of 41 shots on the unarmed Amadou Diallo in 1999, they were firing 9s. It's an icon of rap culture: 'Cock my nine, and separate yo' head from yo' spine,' Ice Cube memorably muttered in homage to the murdered Notorious B.I.G. Of the 188 shots fired in the Columbine High School massacre, which until Virginia Tech set the standard for depraved mass schoolroom slaughter, 55 came from Dylan Klebold's Tec-9.

First, saying "almost certainly" is generally a way of saying "I'm making this up." The "almost" kind of lets the author off the hook, since they're not totally making things up. It's still highly disingenuous, though. I'll believe it when I see actual, you know, facts. The reference to WWI is irrelevant; the fact that German officers did this (and I think this is bringing us into Godwin land) has nothing to do with a 9mm somehow being "worse" than any other. Same goes for the rap lyrics, assuming they're even evidence of what street culture really was, and even if that's true, it's a pretty serious jump to automatically conclude that people actually acted based on this culture. The Tec-9 is a questionable example. First, that's one of any number of 9mm guns that exist. Second, the Tec-9 has long had a bad reputation because the original model was easy to convert to being fully automatic (this changed when the ATF forced some design changes in 1982). Finally, the 55 rounds mentioned is only 30% of the 188 that the article itself says were fired. So why are we talking about this one gun as somehow the worst of the bunch?

Next some basic factual misrepresentations:


A 9mm round--romantically called a "parabellum," from the Latin slogan ("If you seek peace, prepare for war") of its original German manufacturer--weighs a little more than a quarter of an ounce, with a diameter of about three eighths of an inch.

First, the parabellum is just one of a large number of 9mm cartridges that are manufactured. Specifically, it is the 9x19mm that was originally used in the Luger (so it's sometimes called the 9mm Luger).  This is one of many 9mm cartridges around today. This is just sloppy and an excuse to use the term "parabellum" to make it seem more sinister.


A few experts maintain that lower-caliber rounds, such as .22s (about a fifth of an inch in diameter) can be equally deadly. They make a smaller hole, but a .22 'tends to bounce around in the body,' whereas a 9mm round often passes right through, says Fred Starkey, a veteran LAPD officer. But the ones who should know best--the militaries of at least 70 countries, including, since 1985, the United States--have come down in favor of the 9mm sidearm.

First, it's dismissive of the "few experts" talking about the .22. Second, the only reason the United States switched to the 9mm for their standard-issue firearm is because of a desire to standardize munitions with the rest of NATO. That being said, the Marines and Special Forces have continued to use .45 handguns, as have many police and SWAT forces (from the same Wikipedia article).

The next paragraph talks about the infamous FBI Miami shootout in 1986, as well as talking about the higher-capacity magazines for 9mm. These are also not unique to 9mm weapons.


Today it's the gun of choice for the everyday criminal and cop alike, accounting for 263,000 of the roughly 815,000 handguns manufactured in the United States in 2005, according to government figures. The U.S. International Trade Commission tracks imports of handguns, which totaled 878,000 in 2005, but those aren't broken out by type, and so not even the government knows how many 9mm guns are actually sold in this country.

263,000 / 815,000 is about 32%. How is one-third somehow "the gun of choice" then? And the "even the government doesn't know" bit is just sensationalist nonsense.


But it's ubiquitous on the street, from gang-ridden South L.A.--where in one area, patrolled by the LAPD's Southeast Division, it figured in 23 of 58 gun homicides last year--to the ghettos of Philadelphia, where homicide detective John Ramsey estimates that 'about 60 percent of the homicides I work on involve a 9-millimeter.' They have one advantage, from the cops' point of view: they eject telltale shell casings at the scene, to the benefit of investigators. That's why some criminals still prefer revolvers.

23 / 58 is about 40%, which hardly meets my definition of "ubiquitous" (or the dictionary's for that matter). Okay, 60%, that I buy as being a significant portion, but ultimately the question must be asked: so what? The shell casings thing is true of any automatic irrespective of caliber. I'm sure it's true that "some criminals still prefer revolvers" ... doesn't this kinda punch a whole in their "it's the gun of choice for criminals" argument above?


Many ordinary citizens now have 9-millimeters for protection as well, which means, inevitably, that they get used to settle arguments between spouses or friends. Last month, according to police in Ft. Smith, Ark., a feud between next-door neighbors led to a confrontation that ended in gunfire--a bullet from a 9mm Ruger in the head. (Police believe the gun was legally owned.) Or they get picked up by children, who find the trigger much easier to pull than the one on a revolver.

Okay, I'd like to see some statistics here. Furthermore, what does this have to do with 9mm guns specifically?  This one anecdotal example is meaningless to this argument; I read a story about someone getting killed in a car wreck recently, so should we ban that model of car?  Are the authors suggesting that if we were to ban 9mm handguns, all the people that have them wouldn't go out and buy something else? And the bit about the children is further sensationalism. Easier to pull according to whom? Do they not realize that trigger-pull varies based on the gun? First of all, unless the gun's stored loaded (which is idiotic if kids are around, regardless of what kind of gun it is), you have to pull the slide back to chamber the first round. While this is certainly easier with an automatic than loading a revolver, it still varies dramatically from gun to gun.  This is not to say a child couldn't do it, just that it's not necessarily as easy as the article would have you believe. The simple truth is that it depends on the gun. It would have been much better here to talk about the relative ease of loading an automatic vs. a revolver (and I'm not really sure which would be easier for a child).  I've also seen revolvers that required little trigger pressure, and not all revolvers have safties.

To conclude, some changes could be made to gun laws. That being said, the kind of sensationalism and questionable fact-finding employed by Newsweek here is not the way to affect change. All it does is stir things up, which may help sell newspapers but which doesn't actually contribute anything to the debate. As one of my favorite professors is so fond of saying, reasonable people can and do differ. There's enough information available that if they really wanted to, it's very easy to make an informed, rational argument for tighter gun control. That they stooped to misrepresenting their own numbers and appealed to people's prejudices smacks of laziness at best. We wonder why our electorate is so uninformed? Here's a good example of why.

Tags: written by DEMachina, edited by port1080, editorial, guns, gun rights, firearms, second amendment, handgun, newsweek, Virginia Tech (all tags)

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Bam pow!

Steve Urkel.

Mon Sep 10, 2007 at 06:29:20 PM EST

4.00 (informative)

Given that the 9mm is a small round, it's sort of odd to complain about it's popularity. Would these complainers rather have criminals blazing away at us with .44 mags? I also am always baffled by complaints about the Tec-9. I've shot the Tec-9. The Tec-9 is an innacurate piece of crap that jams frequently. I'm glad criminals opt to use junk like the Tec-9 instead of good guns.

I do think it's true that revolvers are safer than automatics, in the sense that when mishandled they are less likely to lead to mishaps, but I don't think this leads to any sort of public policy implementations.

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Re: Guns & Sensationalism [editorial]

Thalia.

Mon Sep 10, 2007 at 06:52:03 PM EST

4.00 (astute)

Comparing it to deaths in Iraq is irrelevant.  Try comparing it to deaths by vehicle (40,000 people every year killed by motor vehicles every year.)   Heck, compare it to death by drowning, or any other method.  Gun deaths are big news because they're splashy and something we can act on without actually having to change our lifestyles.  Reducing the number of car accidents, or drownings, would either require significant monetary investment (a car that can avoid hitting someone) or significant lifestyle change (less driving).  We are not willing to do either of those things.

Thalia

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Re: Guns & Sensationalism [editorial]

thefadd.

Tue Sep 11, 2007 at 04:17:56 AM EST

none

Bubble cars now!

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: Guns & Sensationalism [editorial]

pO157.

Tue Sep 11, 2007 at 09:14:39 AM EST

none

Good point. I think the media and special interest groups find it pretty easy to portray gun owners (even random people who only own a 12 gauge shotgun for hunting or target shooting) as extremists and survivalist nutjobs to the uninformed. Fear breeds ignorance and that gets capitalized on to sell papers or pass legislation.

Why are so few of us left active, healthy, and without personality disorders?

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As mentioned before

Lou.

Mon Sep 10, 2007 at 03:09:11 PM EST

none

Quoting myself:

I agree...sadly, unlike you, I don't that day will ever come.  Between the hyperbole of modern reporting and the insatiable appetite of the majority of news "consumers" it will only get worse.  

Seriously...which of the following would most likely keep folks up past their bedtime...

A. "Tonight at 11, we will have a calm reasoned debate about gun ownership in the US"

or

B. "TONIGHT AT 11...CRAZED ASIAN COLLEGE STUDENT SLAUGHTERS CLASSMATES IN BLOODY GUN RAMPAGE.  FOLLOWED BY DISCUSSION FROM NOTED SOCIOLOGIST TRENT BLONDENHEAD ABOUT HOW YOUR CHILDREN ARE IN MUCH GREATER DANGER THAN YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE!" (non-Fox version)

B.a. "TONIGHT AT 11...CRAZED ASIAN COLLEGE STUDENT SLAUGHTERS CLASSMATES IN BLOODY GUN RAMPAGE...FOLLOWED BY DISCUSSION FROM NOTED SOCIOLOGIST TRENT BLONDENHEAD* ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF EVERY SINGLE STUDENT AND STAFF MEMBER WERE ALLOWED TO CARRY GUNS ON CAMPUS. (Fox version)

Repeat after me...ad revenues...ad revenues

*(Yes...Dr. Blondenhead casts a wide stance across both sides of the issue)

In short, modern news is now as much entertainment as it is information.  Sensationalism sells.

Why does reduced fat Swiss cheese have twice as many holes are regular Swiss cheese?

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Quoting myself which Lou Replied to

pO157.

Mon Sep 10, 2007 at 03:49:49 PM EST

none

Anyway, my wife was told last night (by a 75 year old Veteran, of all people!) "People with guns will end up getting shot by other people with guns." What prompted this? She mentioned in passing that next month she has to pick up her grandmother's old .22 rifle that she inherited , yet she got a response as if she expressed a desire to go buy a Tec-9 out of some guy's van, or get a Street Sweeper and leave it loaded and unintended with an 8 year old while she goes out drinking.

I think the discussion over Evolution v. Creation (or "Intelligent Design") has similar parallels to the Gun Control/Gun Rights debate. There is often highly technical language dumped into play which leads to a lack of understanding, concepts that may look scary to everyday people, and a debate that is easily ended by an incorrect appeal to emotion. Even the media does a poor job of discussing guns (see my QL image with the Iraqi woman holding two rounds which she claims were fired into her house by Coalition Forces) and this leads to problems like the article you quoted.

I remember growing up in a No-Guns (even realistic water pistols) House, yet my dad had no problem sending me to scout camp were we were expected to shoot .22s  starting at age 12, or signing permission slips for a field trip to shoot with the town police at a makeshift range behind some sketchy asphalt plant. The choice of whether or not to own a weapon at home legally and how to raise your child are important, but he also considered it important that I learn as much as possible about the world around me and other people's viewpoints.

What we need as a country is a serious discussion about firearms without overzealous reporting, not knee-jerk reactions to maniacs who will always exist no matter what we restrict or how illegal certain objects become. But I believe we will not be there for a long time.

Why are so few of us left active, healthy, and without personality disorders?

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Re: Quoting myself which Lou Replied to

stevetherobot.

Mon Sep 10, 2007 at 06:17:26 PM EST

none

my QL image with the Iraqi woman holding two rounds which she claims were fired into her house by Coalition Forces

What were they doing?  Throwing them at her?

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Re: Quoting myself which Lou Replied to

pO157.

Mon Sep 10, 2007 at 07:36:55 PM EST

none

Exactly! I mean, I don't own a gun and even I know that the woman's claim was completely BS. Yet, a reporter in a War Zone, someone who should know something about guns, passes it along to the AP wire. If that picture getting onto the wire is any indication on the level of knowledge in this country about firearms it means the chances of there being a fully informed debate without relying on emotion is slim to none. I still hold out hope, though.

Why are so few of us left active, healthy, and without personality disorders?

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Re: Guns & Sensationalism [editorial]

pO157.

Mon Sep 10, 2007 at 04:16:17 PM EST

none

What does the average gun owner carry on a day to day basis? What are the more popular models?

Do these conflict from what the gangbangers and criminals seem to prefer?

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Re: Guns & Sensationalism [editorial]

dgraham.

Tue Sep 11, 2007 at 03:38:29 PM EST

3.00 (funny)

Clearly more celebrities need to carry guns so that tabloids can run "this month's hot gun" stories because Jennifer Aniston has a cute little 9mm in her purse that is just so darling.

hurf blurf duh...

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Re: Guns & Sensationalism [editorial]

DEMachina.

Tue Sep 11, 2007 at 03:14:31 PM EST

none

Unfortunately I'm not sure there's any way to figure that out, but that's a good question.  All the advice I've seen is basically, "carry the largest caliber you can shoot accurately."  Basically the conventional wisdom seems to be that it's better to hit with a 9mm than miss with a .45, but hitting with a .45 is better than hitting with a 9mm.

Q: What do you think of western civilization? Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.

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pO157.

Tue Sep 11, 2007 at 07:08:01 PM EST

none

Isn't concealment and comfort something else to consider, as well? I don't know how big some of these can get, but doesn't caliber size proportion to the total volume of the gun that would need to be attached to your waist or gentials [WTF?]. Especially if you have to carry concealed, wouldn't it be bad if any part or an outline of said weapon was visible? Could that cause a scare to a worried citizen? What do you do in that case? Or do you mostly carry in states where everybody else does?

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DEMachina.

Tue Sep 11, 2007 at 08:53:29 PM EST

none

Wow, that link is .. special.

Honestly size only makes but so much difference (tee hee).  From what I've seen, full-size handguns are totally carryable (I've seen people do so).  The trend seems to be making weapons that are more compact, even in large calibers.

Q: What do you think of western civilization? Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.

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we don't need no...

DEMachina.

Tue Sep 11, 2007 at 03:52:50 PM EST

none

I heard an interesting (albeit anecdotal) factoid awhile back.  I was taking a defensive handgun class and the instructor (who wasn't a cop, but does do similar things, e.g. a bail bondsman) was talking about educating kids about guns.  Even if you don't want your kids to ever have them, he considered it very important that kids be taught how to handle guns safely.  Because what happens if they go to a friend's house and that friend's parent(s) have one?  Or maybe an older friend has one?

Another issue is what kids do with toy guns.  Apparently some gangs in Richmond (where I live) have started painting the ends of their (real) guns bright orange...the corresponding response from police (who have no more desire to get shot than anyone else) is to treat any gun, orange-tipped or not, as the real deal.  So in that case, doesn't it make sense to beat into your kids (hopefully not literally, of course :) ) the practice of never pointing a gun at a person?

This is the type of thing that doesn't happen in the case of a blind "guns are bad, mmkay?" mindset.

Q: What do you think of western civilization? Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.

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pO157.

Tue Sep 11, 2007 at 07:13:56 PM EST

none

I heard an interesting (albeit anecdotal) factoid awhile back.  I was taking a defensive handgun class and the instructor (who wasn't a cop, but does do similar things, e.g. a bail bondsman) was talking about educating kids about guns.  Even if you don't want your kids to ever have them, he considered it very important that kids be taught how to handle guns safely.  Because what happens if they go to a friend's house and that friend's parent(s) have one?  Or maybe an older friend has one?

Wow, something like that happened to us the other week. My wife took a co-worker and her kids on a visit to her brother's house. Well, my brother always carries. But, my wife's friend never educated her children about guns and they'd never seen one except on the police. Apparently, my wife forgot to mention that her brother always packs heat and the look on the kids' faces when he nonchalantly walked into the house and unloaded and put away his pistol apparently was reportedly... interesting to say the least.

You only get one chance to make a first impression, and he made one, that is for sure.

I would not mind a 1 hour "look, don't touch, report it to an adult" type of training in early elementary school years for children about firearms. Hell, it would have to save more lives than DARE and probably be cheaper, too.

Why are so few of us left active, healthy, and without personality disorders?

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DEMachina.

Tue Sep 11, 2007 at 09:05:53 PM EST

none

Actually, funny you should mention that.  This same instructor mentioned an attempt at that as a study at some kind of community center (don't remember those particular details).  What I do remember is that a very small percentage of kids actually followed the "look and don't touch" instructions they'd been given.  The guns were loaded with dummy round, but the kids "shot" each other and what-not.

I don't really know the details of this, obviously.  That said, I think about how ineffective DARE is, and I wouldn't expect much out of an analogous program for guns.

I'm inclined to think it needs to be a parental thing, and it needs to happen young enough that it's something people actually take authority seriously.  After I took this class, I immediately called my mom and told her to sign up my brother.  He's 15 now, and really enjoys shooting (what 15-year-old guy doesn't?), and this class will be much better education than I could give.  Apparently this same shooting range offers classes for younger kids, also, which I think is a fantastic idea.  I see kids go to the shooting range sometime, and I've never seen one, even younger ones, do anything irresponsible.  I really think it's a matter of stressing it early; this one way in which a so-called "gun culture" (see also: the rural southern U.S. during the late 19th or early 20th centuries) might be beneficial.

Q: What do you think of western civilization? Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.

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pO157.

Wed Sep 12, 2007 at 09:23:19 AM EST

none

I don't really know the details of this, obviously.  That said, I think about how ineffective DARE is, and I wouldn't expect much out of an analogous program for guns.

Yeah, DARE sucks. I think the only thing it was good for was teaching kids about what pot smells like so if they want to get into it they can figure which of their classmates/co-workers/friends smokes a lot and is likely holding.

As Officer Friendly said at our DARE training in 5th grade: "I'm now going to burn this marijuana incense so if you're ever at a party and you smell it you know things will have gotten out of control and you should immediately get a ride home before the cops bust in and arrest everybody because when we come into a party we automatically arrest everybody regardless of circumstance or situation." Seriously, WTF? It seemed all DARE did (since the drug education part was ineffectual, that comes from parents and good choices) was build up the myth that local police were stromtroopers who could kick down doors the second after some stoner lit up and immediately arrest everybody which would Ruin Your Life (tm) and go in your Permanent Record(tm).

Perhaps I am just bitter because I didn't win the  Best Mandatory Essay award at the end and was not chosen by Officer Friendly to keep the cuddly DARE Bear. (Editor's Note: After doing some research it turns out I was also screwed out of receiving the complementary DARE t-shirt. I would now consider myself bitter AND disenchanted.)

 After I took this class, I immediately called my mom and told her to sign up my brother.  He's 15 now, and really enjoys shooting (what 15-year-old guy doesn't?), and this class will be much better education than I could give.  Apparently this same shooting range offers classes for younger kids, also, which I think is a fantastic idea.  I see kids go to the shooting range sometime, and I've never seen one, even younger ones, do anything irresponsible.  I really think it's a matter of stressing it early; this one way in which a so-called "gun culture" (see also: the rural southern U.S. during the late 19th or early 20th centuries) might be beneficial.

Funny you should mention that. A lot of gun owners suggested the best way to convert "gun grabbers" is to take them out shooting somewhere. That assumes that it is a-okay to take people under 18 or 21 in your state, or folks without permits. Supposedly taking people shooting converts folks a large percentage of the time which brings up some interesting questions as to why they were against it in the first place.

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Don't Knock It

thefadd.

Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 03:36:14 AM EST

5.00 (brilliant)

DARE was the single most effective public policy campaign in the history of the world...at raising awareness of drugs and making sure everyone knew to try at least once.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Converts

Lou.

Wed Sep 12, 2007 at 10:01:37 AM EST

none

Supposedly taking people shooting converts folks a large percentage of the time which brings up some interesting questions as to why they were against it in the first place.

We're Americans...principles will always take a back seat to FUN.

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DEMachina.

Wed Sep 12, 2007 at 08:06:27 PM EST

none

True enough about DARE.  Honestly, during my brief period of marijuana use back in high school, it was not uncommon for us to sit around, stoned, and make fun of DARE.  So yeah.

Fortunately I live in the South (Virginia, specifically), where you have to be 18 or 21 to buy or actually own a gun (18 for rifles/shotguns, 21 for handguns) or buy the ammo (same age breakdown), but there's not really any age limit on shooting with a guardian or whatever.  Plus the place I usually shoot is a state-run range out in the boonies, and it's pretty much self-regulating.  

I've definitely seen dads take elementary school age kids to the range.  There's also the pink-stocked .22 called "My First Gun" I've seen at gunshows.  Again, I don't think it's a bad idea at all if people are trained properly.

Q: What do you think of western civilization? Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.

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