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Unhappy Arabs

novy.

Posted to Politics on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 06:56:12 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

People traveling through Middle East report that most Arabs feel disgruntlement and doubt. "If you are old, the place where you live is likely to have changed so much that little seems friendly and familiar. If you are young, years of rote learning in dreary state schools did not prepare you well for this new world. In your own country you have few rights. Travel abroad and they take you for a terrorist. Even your leaders don't count for much in the wider world."

Arab self-confidence has been falling, as more Arabs think of America as dangerous and implacable enemy, that nothing will get resolved in Israel-Palestine, that Iraq has become its own worst enemy, and yet many other horrible situations, like in Darfur or Lebanon, can't be blamed on America. Arab governments remain authoritarian, perhaps propped up by oil revenues in wealthier states, and military-backed governments don't inspire anyone.

Rigid social structures and strong family ties have negative consequences too. Sex out of wedlock remains taboo, yet costs of lavish weddings and hefty dowry payments have pushed average age of marriage in many Arab countries into 30s. Frustration among young people has grown intense. High percentage of young people and high population growth rates combined with some of worst schools in world haven't helped either in terms of anger among young people. "An oft-quoted statistic from the reports is that the amount of literature translated into Spanish in a single year exceeds the entire corpus of what has been translated into Arabic in 1,000 years."

Some Arabs think high economic growth would make big difference. One Egyptian minister says, "Give me five more years of 7% growth and many of our other problems will fade." But few inside or outside that region agree.

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Re: Unhappy Arabs

nmiguy.

Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 12:30:59 PM EST

4.00 (astute)

Unhappiness can be inherited.  

The Arab states have all had a number of historical events that shape theri modern identity.  Beyond religion, one coul dpoint to the Mongol invasion as formative for the Arab states.  

The Arabs wee nomadic, the region has vast deserts and lush fertaile areas.  But since survival was quite often about brutality, seeds of resentment were planted long ago.  

The Mongols invaded quite brutally, but eventually the Mongol invaders to some extent assimilated the existing religion and culture present in the Arabic regions.  

Presently, there are few resources for the average Arab.  The lifestyle that was culturally developed over centuries is rendered meaningless to many Arabs.  There is not a nomadic culture, no desert caravans exchanging valuable commodities.  There is no competition amongst clans for survival in the sense of the ancient merchants and shepherds.  Now the area is dominated by the super wealthy who own oil and sell it off to nations around the world.  The average Arab gets little for this.  

This is not just a people, but a regional problem.  Whether you are a Muslim Arab, a Christian, a Jew or a Zoroastrian, you are miserable in the middle east.  Not only is this unhappiness hereditary from father to son and from mother to daughter, it is also contagious.  It spreads from person to person from group to group.  Any one person in the area that is truly happy is also truly detested by everyone else for being happy.  

I have a few solutions.  First and foremost, to be a happy Arab, get OUT of the middle east.  Sweltering in the hot sun every day and getting little out fo life is no way to grow happiness.  Secondly, I would say to be a happy Arab, be thankful for what you have and do no accept any type of envy to creep within you.  It is okay to strive for success, but to be emotionally tied to teh success of others is setting yourself up to fail and be miserable.  And third and probably most important of all, do not begrudge contentment and survival of others outside or within your group.  Celebrate the success of your neighbor and expand your group to be inclusive rather than exclusive.  If you narrow down the group to which you belong you eventually isolate yourself and this is a path to misery.  

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Re: Unhappy Arabs

skeptic.

Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 09:55:56 AM EST

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All of those are significant problems for Arabs, and there are others as well. Being (in their own self-estimation) the world's most enlightened people, who have the enormous advantage of following the world's one and only True Religion (Islam) they naturally expect to have the world's most advanced and dominant civilization, which in fact they once had, several centuries ago.  The fact that the despised Christian infidels have pulled ahead of them to become the world's most advanced and dominant civilization is a matter of great distress and confusion.  How could such a thing happen?  And the equally (or even more) despised Jews have managed to take control of a territory that is actually sacred to Islam, which is even more bizarre.  How can Allah allow such a thing?  Are Arabs being punished for their sins?  It's very distressing.

Personally I see Judaism, Christianity, and Islam to be equally inadequate in dealing with the realities of the 21st century.  People need to let go of their cherished old traditional beliefs and take a more practical approach to the necessities of the modern world.  Many problems of Arabs, and non-Arabs as well, could be solved thereby.  

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Re: Unhappy Arabs

novy.

Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 10:20:44 AM EST

none

People won't really "let go of their cherished old traditional beliefs and take a more practical approach to the necessities of the modern world" in Arab world any more than in US. What Arab world therefore needs desperately might well be called "Reformation" of Islam. Such talk of Reformation has become common in Iran, and needs to become more common in countries like Saudi Arabia where really backward forms of Islam thrive, cutting off opportunities to become more advanced.

One would think that oil revenues in so many Arab nations would have given them at least as much opportunity to advance and to become players in world as it gave Russia, yet not even Saudi Arabia has become worthy of following, and countries with huge oil reserves like Iraq have become virtual colonies, as at beginning of 20th century. Money in abundance doesn't assure advancement; there has to be some notion of what that money would be good for, what it might buy, but Arabs don't yet have such notions.

When great cultures collapse, there can be no assurance that they will ever revive. Arabs need to think seriously about transforming themselves so that they can adjust to new realities or they may never become as great as they once were ever again. That transformation doesn't have to begin with abandoning religion but it probably has to begin with changing religion.

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Re: Unhappy Arabs

PenitenziAgite.

Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 11:42:38 AM EST

5.00 (informative)

I agree, but in addition, with these reforms from a religious angle, a certain degree of social change must also occur.  In many ways, we saw this happen with Turkey when it became the state as envisioned by Kamal Ataturk.  

The Koran and the Hadith are often used to justify elements of the social order that were in place prior to the revelations of Islam.  The article discusses dowries, honor killings, and the like.  These are purely cultural, and as any man in these regions can tell you, this whole dowry business can really suck.  As any rape victim in the region can tell you, it sucks to live in fear of being murdered by your hillbilly cousin.  Education cannot simply consist of Koran study, following by Koran memorization, followed by lunch, followed by Koran study.  Rich gulf states like Saudi bear a lot of responsibility here, as they are more than happy to endow schools across the Muslim world, but loathe to ensure that well-qualified teachers are available.

The scholars at Al-Azhar need to put forth a unified opinion that Salafism is heresy.  Some already do, but then bring them close with the other hand.  Until the Salafi choke hold on Saudi is relieved, the Sunni world will have a hard time moving forward.  Shi'ism is the branch of Islam which is not bogged down by a rigidly dogmatic subgroup.  Indeed, Islamic thought in Shi'ism has been evolving quite rapidly, and seems poised to outstrip the Sunna in its ability to come to grips with modernity.

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Re: Unhappy Arabs

novy.

Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 03:50:44 PM EST

none

Social change must certainly come if Arab states and people will have any chance to advance. Efforts to hold onto past must be seen as futile (old Arabs don't recognise their countries anyway), as ridiculous as attempting to stop tide from coming in. Change can never be completely avoided, but with world changing as rapidly as it has in past 200 years, efforts to avoid change have become social poison, destroying societies trying to embrace stagnation.

Calling one version of Islam or another heresy really misses point. If only way to stop Salafism remains to directly fight against it, putting people in position where they either support Salafism or oppose it, Salafism will emerge victorious. New forms of Islam more engaging and powerful than Salafism have to render Salafism boring, uninteresting, and easily discarded.

Shia progress, as in Iran, won't help in Sunni countries any more than fundamentalist progress would help in Catholic countries or vice versa. Sunnis have to grab for their own destiny. If they fail to do so, they will collapse, with range of unfortunate consequences for societies in which they represent majority of population.

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Re: Unhappy Arabs

Shy Elf.

Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 01:52:00 AM EST

4.66 (brilliant, interesting, astute)

Ah, yes, one wonders why the Arabs can't be more like Russia, land of sweetness and light.  Perhaps a good whipping would help them feel better.

The problem is that we have had a change in the religious leadership, except we're going the wrong way.  In Iraq for example, the most influential religious figure is now al-Sadr instead of  Sistani.

Oil money is mana from heaven descended upon the ruling class.  It just entrenches corruption and does little to encourage balanced economic development.  Despite the additional spreading of the wealth in Russia due to needing to build massive transportation networks and gas pipelines due to the sheer size of Russia, oil and natural gas money has been instrumental in the ending of democracy there by Tsar Putin.  I don't believe that economic dependency on ownership of narrowly held natural resources is in general healthy for the social or political development of a society.

Want to pick an abandoned area of the desert in Saudi Arabia and build your dream society?  You can't.  The royal family owns everything, and even if you already have a place you can build, if they don't approve of you you won't get water without carrying it in in a tanker or desalinating it.  The Saudi Royal Family may be  good parasites, never sucking enough blood to endanger the health of their host, but they are parasites nonetheless, and the last thing the want to see is a real democracy, so why encourage western thinking?

The Arabs had a center of culture, intellectualism, education, and secularism.  It was called Baghdad.  Even under Saddam, it remained such a center, but with the educated class now fled it can be considered such no longer.  That the only bright spot in the Arab world is now Egypt, the corrupt Mexico of the Arab world, is just a sign of how low they have sunk.

If they appeal to the West for justice, the West doesn't even see Arabs as "persons".

The Arabs nowadays don't swallow the words of their political leaders whole.  Whether the government wants them to or not, they get satellite television.  They laugh darkly at transparently jingoistic CNN when tells them that their problems are all their fault.  But they don't laugh at Al Jazeera when it tells them that though the U.S. and Israel are the cause of a large share of their problems, a larger share is due to other Arabs.  And they want to live in a U.S. sitcom.  And they want to go visit Disneyland.

If anyone should understand the consequences of living under a fundamentalist religious government, it should be the people of the U.S.A., but despite or because of living in the fundamentalist state of the Western world, we seem to understand this not at all.   The New Testament could not be more clear in its exhortations to forgive and to avoid war, but despite this has caused a tremendous number of terrible wars.  The Koran likewise proscribes a minimum level of mercy when you capture your enemies, but as it is much less absolute in prescribing forgiveness, is it any wonder that like the New Testament it has been the cause of harsh punishments and exhortations to war?

If there's anything Northern Ireland has taught us, isn't it that if we work hard to provide physical security, and give people freedom and education and economic prosperity, in a few decades they'll be so busy stuffing their faces with beer and crisps while watching the telly that they'll be too lazy to go kill each other?

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Re: Unhappy Arabs

novy.

Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:04:27 AM EST

none

Russia may not be land of sweetness and light (especially "light", especially during winter), but it has raised living standards substantially during last few years and has more international influence now than at any time except during height of Soviet empire.

You say "If there's anything Northern Ireland has taught us, isn't it that if we work had to provide physical security, and give people freedom and education and economic prosperity, in a few decades they'll be so busy stuffing their faces with beer and crisps while watching the telly that they'll be too busy to go kill each other?" But countries like South Korea and Taiwan show that "freedom" need only become factor after people get security and education and economic prosperity, that only then do they demand "freedom". Except that Saudi Arabians have security and education and economic prosperity, but you don't see them demanding (or even getting ready to demand) "freedom". Maybe cultural issues make difference as well.

Most religious fanatics have become dangerous, whether Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindu or whatever. Most of them feel threatened by modern world, and most of them want to destroy modern world to preserve their quaint understandings of what their god demands of them. In world with 6,600,000,000 people, they fight to force women to have children, then predict that world will run out of food. In world with weapons powerful enough to cause "nuclear winter", they fight for more weapons, more killing, and more torture of enemies, then blame others for their own barbarism.

Wealth in North America also gravitates to elites, and poor people get screwed because they have temerity to be poor. Why don't your critiques of Arabs apply with equal force in North America? You can't start paradise in North America either, because omnipresent government will insist on overseeing everything you do (think Waco), so why doesn't your criticism of parasitism apply elsewhere?

Arabs have allowed themselves to wallow in dirt for too long, and now they must get up and do something. Making excuses for them doesn't help them any, it just allows them to wallow longer. It starts with allowing ordinary people to see what they must confront in rest of world, it starts with education about other cultures and other religions. Satellite Television may get things started, but sooner or later Arabs have to recognise that world has passed them by and that they need to catch up. Only then will they even try.  

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Re: Unhappy Arabs

Shy Elf.

Thu Jan 17, 2008 at 12:56:55 AM EST

4.00 (astute)

Russian male life expectancy has dropped to 60 years.  The economy is still in very bad shape, despite being much better than it was a few years ago, when it was in the midst of the post-Soviet depression.  The political influence of Russia isn't so much due to their economy being strong as it is to deciding to spend a relatively large share of their GDP on their military and stirring up trouble around the world.  Japan for example has a much bigger economy, but nowhere near the political influence of Russia.

Regarding Saudi Arabia and parasitism,

The non-oil government revenues are constrained by a largely non-competitive market place where monopolies and “exclusive dealerships” are dominated by members of the royal family and their cohorts, and usually they do not generate revenues for the government in the form of sales or income tax.  While some monopolies and single dealerships control large segments of the market, they are protected by the Shari’a (Islamic law) from paying taxes on their earnings.  Rather, they are required to make a voluntary contribution of 2.5 percent in the form of zakat (religious charity) to organizations or groups or individuals of their choice.

     This religious protection of the rich and the powerful deprives the government of vital sources of income to address the social and economic needs of the majority of the people. The result is a skewed income distribution and the growth of extensive poverty and deprivation. Despite growing social needs, Khalid al-Qusaibi, the Saudi minister of planning has recently confirmed that the Saudi Government will not introduce the income tax to reduce the burden of the national debt or redistribute national wealth.

So, the oil is a government-run monopoly with the profits going mostly to very few people, and the rest of the economy is mostly a government-enforced monopoly with the profits going to very few people as well.

In North America, a much larger fraction of economic activity is in the manufacturing, services and intellectual property generating areas than in raw materials generation.  At least theoretically, anyone can start up a company in these industries and compete, whereas in the raw materials sector, there is a finite amount of resources and you have to buy out an existing owner in order to start up a business.  Even in the raw materials sector, unlike in Saudi Arabia there is competition amongst the individual owners, and there are few situations where an adequate substitute for a material cannot be found elsewhere.  This keeps profit margins down to a reasonable level, and situations like producing oil at $10/barrel and selling it at $90/barrel are rare.

Income distribution in the U.S. is now worse than it has ever been before, narrowly beating out its previous high in the 20s.  Income disparity has been significantly increased by increased rates of immigration swelling low-skill labor availability.  Nevertheless, the poorer classes are not entirely restricted from having their children become doctors or lawyers and joining the elite classes.  And when the government takes in money, more of it goes to help out the people in general than to enrich just a few.

So I wouldn't call the situation in North America "parasitism", but there are other examples in the Middle East, Africa and South America.

In regard to a lack of freedom hurting development prospects, this effect is greatest when you're talking about freedom from an external ruler, as in the Irish fighting British rule or the Palestinians fighting Israeli rule, and not where fighting for civil liberties from a ruler of the same race, as in South Korea and Taiwan.  And the economies of South Korea and Taiwan are based on industries which require educated native workers, whereas the economy of Saudi Arabia is based on hiring western engineers to come in and tell their Egyptian and Pakistani and Bangladeshi laborers how to get the oil out of the ground.

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Re: Unhappy Arabs

novy.

Thu Jan 17, 2008 at 01:38:03 PM EST

4.00 (interesting)

I have little doubt that freedom from external rulers makes enormous difference in development prospects, but South Korea and Taiwan were for many years as in thrall to US military as any Middle East country with arguable current exception of Iraq. Yet they managed to take development opportunities that were available and run with them. South Korea today has become 13th largest economy in world, and current president thinks it can become 7th largest with prudent management. If Egypt were run as well as Korea, with same number of people and comparable resources and with no foreign troops muddying economic picture, impact on Arab world in general would be substantial.

No doubt Russia's external influence has been enhanced by its military spending, but it has also been enhanced by its technology. For example, because it sold nuclear reactor to Iran, it has more pull with Iran than US has. In turn, its technology has been enhanced by its economic revival.

Income distribution in North America really has been worse recently than ever before, but I think that may be about to change. Merchant class in US has allied itself with soldier and priest class ever since beginning of Reagan years, and both merchants and workers have suffered in consequence. (Merchants have suffered primarily because of terrible economic policies which have been natural consequence of trusting classes that don't have any deep appreciation of basis or importance of economic power.) But now merchant class sends most of its political contributions to Democrats, which suggests that they have begun to understand that they can trust working class, their natural ally, more than soldier and priest classes, and that Democrats will be better stewards of economy than Republicans have been.

Saudi Arabian oil policies don't strengthen their country in long term, for reasons you make clear. Countries like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait would be much stronger if they were lifting up ordinary people to greater extent. Instead, they try to keep everyone "paid off", just well off enough to avoid outright revolution. What they have gotten from this approach was radical clergy with vast anger at West, revolutionary ferment, and diminished international influence. If Saudi Arabia had used its resources better, can anyone doubt they would have more influence than Israel? Yet instead, they still get seen as backwater, place to be exploited rather than partnered with. Having Bush kiss their leaders doesn't change facts. With vast oil reserves and revenues, Arabs really could lift themselves up and become players in international scene, but coasting on past glories won't do trick.  

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Re: Unhappy Arabs

skeptic.

Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 10:41:32 AM EST

4.00 (interesting)

Yes, you make a good point.  Even without abandoning Islam, Arabs could accomplish a great deal by reforming Islam.  It is quite true that religion, despite its vast potential for intolerance and destructive conflicts, can also be quite harmless or even, in some cases, a positive influence, when it is more appropriately interpreted.

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