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Purple Mountain's Majesty Vs. Chicken Man

MayorBob.

Posted to Legal on Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 10:24:06 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

This issue, which may or may not be a free speech issue, doesn't involve any speeches.  It comes about because a commercial firm's right to advertise ran head-on into a town law aimed at preserving its "mountain grandeur."  It doesn't involve speech because the centerpiece of the drama is a mascot -- a human being marching silently alongside a road dressed in a chicken suit.  A small Colorado town says Chicken Man is aesthetically displeasing while the mascot's owner, a chicken restaurant, says it's simply advertising.

Located 18 miles west of Colorado Springs, Woodland Park is a small (7,600 total population) with some of the most breathtaking vistas in the US.  The town's concern for preserving its vistas (and the tourist bucks attracted by them) informed its decision to enact a town ordinance regarding advertising signs.  When Wild Wings `n Things opened up, one of the first things owner Lisa Branden did was have one of the staff get dressed as Chicken Man to patrol the highway, waving to passers by, encouraging people to eat at the restaurant.  But, alas, Chicken Man fell afoul of the city code on signage, specifically because the code doesn't mention that costumed mascots are allowed.  Dave Buttery, Woodland Park's city manager, said the sign laws are required to maintain the town's "mountain grandeur" and he's in support of keeping Chicken Man off the streets of the city.

The local paper (pdf doc) did a nice in-depth write up of the issue.  It also reported that most of the businesses in town are in support of Branden and Chicken Man.  Branden definitely sees this as a free speech issue because the mascot is her "primary method for letting people know I am here."  She refuses to comply with the city order and gave Chicken Man an American flag to carry around with him.  For Branden, the controversy is no laughing matter.  It's obviously not for Buttery either.  He said the town won't cite Branden "although it could" but will work this out by crafting a new sign ordinance.  The compromise Buttery offers - essentially limiting Chicken Man to 90 appearances a year - is a non-starter as far as Branden is concerned.  Thus, with the parties at loggerheads, the town will continue trying to find an answer.  Mike Morris, who founded the chicken restaurant franchise in 2004 thinks the whole thing is "crazy."  Morris believes "we should be able to walk down the street in any costume we want."

Thus far, nobody is threatening a lawsuit, but an awful lot of people are allowing the words "free speech" to tumble off their lips.  Thus, it might be good to explore what the case law on advertising mascots is.  Last year a New Jersey appeals court upheld a fine imposed on a labor union for using an inflatable rat as part of a labor protest.  Two years ago, the US Ninth District held that a town ban (pdf doc) on outdoor advertising mascots violated the First Amendment.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by MayorBob, edited by 1fastdog, city code, free speech, advertising (all tags)

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Re: Purple Mountain's Majesty Vs. Chicken Man

zyxwvutsr.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 01:04:41 PM EST

4.00 (informative)

The town I live in had a similar controversy last year. There was a tax accounting business on the main drag through town* that employed people dressed in costumes (alternately Uncle Sam and Statue of Liberty costumes) to attract attention to the business.

The controversy came about when someone complained to a city council member about Uncle Sam standing on the side of the road waving to passing cars. An inquiry was made to the chief of police who reported that there was no law on the books prohibiting people from waving to passing cars. The council member wanted to pass a new ordinance outlawing the practice, but another council member (who is also an attorney) talked them out of the idea by mentioning that it would almost certainly be unconstitutional.



* Being in New Jersey, the "main drag through town" is a six-lane road with a concrete barrier in the middle. It's also just about the only commercially-zoned part of town, and is chock-full of a combination of big-box stores, restaurants, auto dealerships, furniture stores, a shopping mall, several strip malls, and a lot of small mom-and-pop businesses like the tax store.

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Re: Purple Mountain's Majesty Vs. Chicken Man

Lou.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 01:12:52 PM EST

none

Was it these folks?

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zyxwvutsr.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 01:33:17 PM EST

none

It was them. So I guess it's not exactly a mom-and-pop operation.

Also, I found out that they're planning to do it again this year.

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Lou.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 01:45:56 PM EST

none

What a funny ad...it almost sounds like the new hire has to bring his/her own costume.  No biggie since we all have Uncle Sam/Lady Liberty costumes in our closets, right?

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TonedEff.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 09:54:01 PM EST

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Please tell me that, if you were to have either one in your closet, it would be an Uncle Sam costume.  I don't know why for sure, but thinking about you all gussied up in a Lady Liberty gown dredges up memories of Gene Hackman at the end of "The Birdcage".

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Lou.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 10:06:32 PM EST

4.00 (funny, funny)

Hey now...be nice.  Sometimes a feller just wants to be pretty, eh?

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Freedom of speech?

delete me.

Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 02:25:23 PM EST

4.00 (funny)

Come on; clearly the chickenman is violating the livestock ordinances of the town.

- derumi (del-me)
"Bobby Fischer? Man, that guy is crazy!" - Mike Tyson

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skeeter1.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 11:49:29 AM EST

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I don't quite know what value a "mascot" has, but Colorado already has some tacky places.  Estes Park comes to mind.  I might throw in Gatlinburg, TN as well.

If the biggest problem they have is a "chicken man", they've already got it easy.

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Lou.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 12:04:13 PM EST

none

I honeymooned in Gatlinburg.  The wife and I had so much fun we almost had to see a plastic surgeon to remove the smiles from our faces.  I say almost because once we got home we realized we were married.  You can still see the skid marks where things came to screeching halt.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: Purple Mountain's Majesty Vs. Chicken Man

thefadd.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 02:05:34 PM EST

none

While it seems ridiculous to want to do away with such things, I would view this as more akin to advertising signage that to freedom of speech. Municipalities have the ability to restrict size and placement of things like billboards so why not this? So long as the code is enforced equitably and is not related to the content of the speech, I see no issue.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: Purple Mountain's Majesty Vs. Chicken Man

zyxwvutsr.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 02:23:44 PM EST

none

Would you also be okay with, for example, a statute outlawing unshaven political protesters wearing hoodies?

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thefadd.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 02:59:43 PM EST

none

On a general basis, courts have found a difference between political speech and commercial speech. Municipalities have an interest in zoning the commercial aspects of their jurisdiction. A mascot on a corner is far more akin to a street vendor than a political protester. Is a city supposed to allow itself to be overrun with street vendors on the basis of the first amendment?

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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MayorBob.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 03:31:01 PM EST

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But what is Chicken Man vending here?  He seems to be serving the sole purpose of silently walking back and forth in front of the restaurant, waving at people driving by.  He's not selling anything; he's sort of the equivalent of having a sign that says "Eat at Joe's" outside the restaurant.

Street vendors are controlled for various reasons: unsanitary conditions, congestion from having too many customers line up on the sidewalks, issues of whether what they're selling are legitimate goods.  None of that here.  It looks like a silly example of a small town government carried away with itself and falling back on an obscure reading of its city code.

While it's true that the courts have generally given more support to political over commercial speech, the facts are that commercial speech has been treated with increasing seriousness by the courts.  And the last link in my write up (about an eerily similar case to this one) came down hard on the right of a business to have mascots walking along the road advertising the store location.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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thefadd.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 03:35:45 PM EST

none

I'm not really going to defend the street vendor comment. He's more like a street vendor than a political protester but they're both off topic.

he's sort of the equivalent of having a sign that says "Eat at Joe's" outside the restaurant.

That's all I'm saying. And I'm pretty sure municipalities have the right to say how large and where you can place those signs.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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skeeter1.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 04:32:34 PM EST

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"I'm pretty sure municipalities have the right to say how large and where you can place those signs."

I know that in my city, there's an ordinance about street-front signs.  There was one in front of my favorite ice cream parlor (within walking distance of my house) and they made her remove it.  The shop is now out of business.  Whether that had anything to do with it going out of biz, I have no idea.  All I know is that a lot of kids in the neighborhood (including old kids like me) liked to go there.  

So, now thanks to the dumbshit politicians, there's now a vacant building that they'll have to tend for, no tax money coming in, and a lot of unhappy kids.  Way to go.  

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MayorBob.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 03:44:15 PM EST

none

My point is that he isn't really akin to a street vendor at all.  He is engaging in commercial speech (without saying a word).  I agree that towns have the right and power to decide where and what type of sign you can display.  I contend that Chicken Man isn't really a sign; he's some guy in an animal costume hired to stand outside the restaurant.  I think that Buttery and the town of Woodland Park already lost that issue of restricting what sort of sign that could be erected when they offered to allow Chicken Man to strut his stuff 90 days a year.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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thefadd.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 04:02:11 PM EST

none

So, you're saying you were wrong when you said:

he's sort of the equivalent of having a sign that says "Eat at Joe's" outside the restaurant.

I think that Buttery and the town of Woodland Park already lost that issue of restricting what sort of sign that could be erected when they offered to allow Chicken Man to strut his stuff 90 days a year.

No, that was a good faith effort on their part to reach a compromise between the parties. I don't think their argument ought to be hindered by that. The odd thing is, the longer this goes on, the more it actually does become a free speech issue. Branden gives the chicken a flag and she puts him up in defiance of city officials, then it becomes more of a political issue that she can continue to speak out about.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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MayorBob.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 04:05:40 PM EST

none

There is a bit of difference between being "sort of an equivalent of a sign" and being a sign, isn't there?

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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thefadd.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 04:16:23 PM EST

none

I'll give you a +5 disingenuous for your parsing for the rhetoric there ;-)

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MayorBob.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 05:13:35 PM EST

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Disingenuous?  Thou doth wound me to the quick.  Where some see disingenuity, others see nuance.  

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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skeeter1.

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 09:29:34 PM EST

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"I'll give you a +5 disingenuous for your parsing for the rhetoric there ;-)"

"Disingenuous?  Thou doth wound me to the quick.  Where some see disingenuity, others see nuance. "

Now, boys, let's learn how to "play nice".  I wish I had a dime for every time I heard that from my mom or one of my grandmoms when I was growing up.  

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Splitting Chicken Feathers

Shy Elf.

Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:44:32 AM EST

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In this town at least, the rule is that the municipality has a say in where you place commercial signs, but not on where you carry them (unless you're blocking traffic), or what costume you wear (if not indecent).  This sounds like a decent compromise to me, and allows people to be heard if they're determined enough.  Hiring a chicken man is expensive enough that few businesses will do it.

It's hard to take anything for granted with this Supreme Court, but I can't really see any reason for them to restrict free speech by allowing restrictions on costumes and handheld signs, which are really quite different things from fixed signs.

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thefadd.

Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 02:12:36 AM EST

none

It would be a fantastic test between their irresistible force to curtail all first amendment rights and their immovable object to allow free reign of commercial interest.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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skeeter1.

Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 10:57:30 PM EST

none

"restrict free speech by allowing restrictions on costumes and handheld signs,"

Interesting idea.  What exactly constitutes a costume and what is clothes?  Back in the 1970's, plenty of men wore "leisure suits" (I'm glad to say that I wasn't one of them).  Was that clothing, or a costume?  At any rate, those were friggin' ugly, AFAIC.  

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OT - But I had to mention it

Lou.

Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:42:08 PM EST

none

While this doesn't concern street peddling ads...

Creepiest.Ad.Ever.  Now...if that were Skeeter, I get a chuckle visualizing the Burger King shot to ribbons.

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Re: OT - But I had to mention it

MayorBob.

Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 02:13:54 PM EST

4.00 (funny, funny)

Alternate title -- Brokeback Burger.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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