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Harper Jeopardizes Nuclear Safety

shane.

Posted to Politics on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:04:49 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

On November 19, 2007 the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission discovered that the Chalk River nuclear reactor was in non-compliance of safety regulations.

As a result the reactor was shutdown until it could be brought into compliance.  Instead of forcing the reactor into compliance, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper has passed legislation to allow the reactor to start operating as is.

Linda Keen, president of the Safety Commission has been fired, and will presumably be replaced by someone who Harper can more easily bend to his will.  The Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission will no longer be trusted to ensure nuclear power plants are operating safely.

All this because the Chalk River reactor is the only one in Canada producing medical isotopes and production must continue at any cost.

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Re: Harper Jeopardizes Nuclear Safety

shane.

Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 11:54:49 AM EST

4.00 (interesting, interesting)

Berkley released lectures on youtub and called them 'physics for future presidents'  One of the lectures explains nuclear power in such a way that I was convinced that it wasn't as dangerous as I thought it was.  Biggest remaining problem was what to do with the waste - still a huge problem - but not as bad a runaway nuclear explosion, which apparently isn't possible anymore.  I was almost convinced that nuclear power was OK - a big change from my previous opinions....

Harper has demonstrated that politicians will overrule the nuclear safety commission for business reasons.  Profit trumps safety.  

Humans simply aren't cautious enough to be trusted with nuclear power.

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rumata.

Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 12:16:40 AM EST

4.00 (interesting, interesting)

Harper has demonstrated that politicians will overrule the nuclear safety commission for business reasons.  Profit trumps safety.

You wouldn't think the howling of the medical community had anything to do with it? After all the major part of the world wide supply in medical isotopes comes from this reactor.

I'm also curious why you lay the blame exclusively on the prime minister. This seems to indicate that the House of Commons (Parliament?) passed the legislation.

Cheers,
Michael

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shane.

Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 01:27:09 AM EST

4.00 (interesting)

It is mostly Harpers decision.  Although it is true that it is passed by the commons, the conservatives will vote how Harper tells them to.  

The outcome of most votes is largely known beforehand, since political parties normally instruct members on how to vote. A party normally entrusts some Members of Parliament, known as whips, with the task of ensuring that all party members vote as desired. Members of Parliament do not tend to vote against such instructions, since those who do so are unlikely to reach higher political ranks in their parties.

This is a rather rare situation in Canada as we currently have a minority government - so at least one other party agreed with Harper on this, I'm not really sure which one.

It's true that the medical community was a bit upset - it seems to me though that Harper was more worried about the longterm effects of the medical community finding another source than they he was about providing the medical isotopes.  

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wetkarma.

Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 01:58:22 AM EST

4.00 (astute, interesting)

The new pebble-bed reactors are pretty idiot proof (they will shutdown by themselves and utilize gravity for cooling) but you are correct that waste continues to be a problem. Keep in mind however that it is not as big of a problem as in past reactors -- in fact new reactors are capable of using the waste from past reactors as fuel.

As to Harper's decision -- its not as barmy as it seems. You have a probability of an earthquake occurring to put the reactor cooling function at risk (one of the older non-gravity fed designs no doubt) thereby impacting the health of X people, and you have a higher probability that lacking medical isotopes the health of Y people are put at risk.

Risk analysis (if one were done) might suggest its better to operate the plant than to shut it down. Its somewhat similar to motorvehicles and highways -- you know that X number of people are going to die each year but there is no mandate (similar to airplanes) to make cars extremely safe because its too costly.

Memory is a strange bell, jubilee and knell.

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Bury that expensive nuclear fuel?

Shy Elf.

Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 01:08:58 PM EST

5.00 (informative)

The problem I have with pebble bed reactors is that they contain the fuel too well, essentially making it unreprocessable. If we only burn the U-235 component, our uranium reserves really aren't all that large. To say that current reactors can use burned fuel is not in general true, since there are very few breeder reactors operating.

Have you compared fuel prices lately? The days of cheap uranium are over. Natural uranium is only about 0.7% U-235. A pound of U3O8 after enriching losses only gives you about 0.004 pounds U-235 at an enrichment of around 4%. Fission energy gives about 2x10^9 kWh(thermal) per ton. At the price peak this summer of $135/pound, this gives a cost of $135*2000/0.004/2e9= 3.4 cents/kWh(thermal). Compare this to coal at $62/ton and 6150 kWh/ton = 1 cent/kWh(thermal) or natural gas at $8/MMBTU = 2.7cents/kWh(thermal). Where's your cheap nuclear fuel now?

Even at the current price of $90/ton, this still leaves uranium prices at 2.25 cents/kWh(thermal). Modern reactors generally get about 1.3 - 3 times as much energy out as there is U-235 in their fuel, since they burn some U-238 as well, but this still leaves them paying comparable fuel prices to coal plants. With all the extra capital costs, just how do you expect them to make money?

As far as nuclear safety goes, why is it that we are so concerned about radiation from nuclear plants, when coal plants release many, many times as much radiation?

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shane.

Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 02:55:27 AM EST

4.50 (funny)

I'm not as concerned about the plant being turned back on, as I was about the Nuclear Safety Commission being overruled by a politician.  If I can't trust the nuclear safety commission to declare a plant safe, then who can I trust - the politicians?

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wetkarma.

Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 03:40:07 AM EST

4.50 (interesting, interesting)

You have a very valid point here -- most governments solve the issue of preserving independence and accountability by appointing key individuals (such as the head of the GAO) for a specific number of years rather than serving "at the pleasure" of the president/pime minister. This is done in order to assure their independence. Its fairly clear that in the arena of nuclear safety, political decisions are an overriding factor.

However lets not let the issue of political interference cast a poor light solely on nuclear energy -- recently the Bush administration for the 2nd time re-appointed as head of the bureau of mine safety an industry lobbyist while congress was out of session.

Many of these jobs are political 'gift' appointments -- eg. FEMA, and even when disaster strikes the person(s) responsible are rarely held accountable. For example - the president has given himself and members of his cabinet immunity for any war crimes which might have been committed post 9/11.

Memory is a strange bell, jubilee and knell.

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shane.

Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 10:53:35 AM EST

3.00 (astute)

Political interference casts a poor light on more than just nuclear energy! :)

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Shy Elf.

Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 11:36:07 AM EST

3.00 (astute)

I really don't understand why they bother to ask congress to confirm anyone anymore.  Simply appoint EVERYONE while congress is out of session and never ask for approval.

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3fingerspointback.

Fri Jan 25, 2008 at 02:39:57 AM EST

4.50 (informative, informative)

Too late, the Democrats have already figured out how to thwart recess appointments in the most inane way possible.

(is 3fingerspointback)

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