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US Army to perform first execution in nearly 50 years

pO157.

Posted to Politics on Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 06:41:59 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

A military press release announced that the US Army intends to execute Pvt. Ronald A. Gray, a quadruple killer and serial rapist, on December 10th. Pvt. Gray would be the first soldier executed by the military since 1961.

In 1961, Pvt. John Bennett was hanged for rape and premeditated murder. Since then hundreds have been executed around the nation by state and federal governments while the US military has not exacted the ultimate penalty from a service member. Until December 10th when a former Specialist, army cook, and spree killer is scheduled to die.

Pvt. Gray has been on Death Row in Leavenworth for decades. He was convicted by a military court for two 1987 murders, rapes and assorted other crimes which lead to his death sentence. He later plead guilty to murder in North Carolina state court for two other murders and was sentenced to eight life sentences there. Over the past 21 years the case has been slowly working its way through the appeals process and ended up on the President's desk. In July, President Bush became the first Commander in Chief since Eisenhower to order the execution of a military member (President Eisenhower ordered the death of Pvt. Bennett).

Opponents to Pvt. Gray's execution point out that 86% of the military death row are members of a minority group, which is larger than the estimated 50% of 3,600 condemned prisoners nationwide who are non-Caucasian.

Times have changed since the old days (pdf) of hanging and musket carrying execution squads, so Pvt. Gray will be executed by lethal injection at a Federal Prison in Indiana borrowed for that purpose. The US Military does not operate an execution facility at the US Disciplinary Barracks, Leavenworth.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by pO157, military, executions, death penalty, US Army (all tags)

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WWOD

joshv.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 09:38:30 AM EST

5.00 (hopeful)

I wonder if Obama would reverse the execution order and commute his sentence to life imprisonment?  Perhaps the guy should try to hold out for another 2 months.

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Re: WWOD

Acefantastik.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 04:37:26 PM EST

5.00 (capital)

Obama is not opposed to capital punishment.  I don't see why he would choose this particular individual to pardon.  Would you care to offer any links that show why future President Obama would be inclined to change this sentence?

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Re: WWOD

joshv.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 05:16:00 PM EST

5.00 (querying)

I believe I phrased my post as a question.  Obama would certainly be more likely to commute the sentence than Bush.

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Re: WWOD

Acefantastik.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 05:28:36 PM EST

5.00 (listing)

Obama would certainly be more likely to commute the sentence than Bush

Again, what do you base this notion on?  Here is a list of the people that George W. Bush has pardoned.  None of those pardons are rapists or murderers.  Why you think that Obama is "more likely" to let one off is a mystery to me.

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Re: WWOD

joshv.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 05:40:41 PM EST

5.00 (equal)

Commuting a death sentence to life in prison is not "letting one off".

Given the exact same cases, do you think Obama and Bush would decide identically on commutation vs. death penalty?

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Re: WWOD

Acefantastik.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 05:51:43 PM EST

4.75 (interesting, informative, bracing)

Given the exact same cases, do you think Obama and Bush would decide identically on commutation vs. death penalty?

Yes, I do.  Obama's clearest remark on the topic of the death penalty is as such:  "I believe there are some crimes--mass murder, the rape and murder of a child--so heinous that the community is justified in expressing the full measure of its outrage by meting out the ultimate punishment."

I don't think that Obama will waste political capital on this particular individual.  I haven't seen any evidence or implication that he would.  

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Re: WWOD

Lou.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 06:17:12 PM EST

5.00 (real, obnoxious, racial)

I think was Josh is trying to insinuate is that brothas gots each others back.  Word. Peace out.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: US Army to perform first execution in nearly 5

zyxwvutsr.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 08:34:15 AM EST

3.00 (ignorant, lackadaisical, blissful)

86% of the military death row are members of a minority group
Who cares?

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Sample size.

pO157.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 09:19:03 AM EST

5.00 (comparative)

This is an issue where I believe statistics come into play. If they are going to make the claim that the military justice system is racist or something then they need to realize that there are relatively few people on military death row compared to the civilian one and that there is probably insufficient statistical power to make the comparison.

In any event, I thought I was under the impression that there were extra protections in the military criminal justice system that civilians didn't have (commanders could arbitrarily reduce or ignore sentences, drop charges, etc). Could somebody explain that one?

Spread it on!

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Re: Sample size.

zyxwvutsr.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 10:08:57 AM EST

5.00 (inclusive, sensible)

If they are going to make the claim that the military justice system is racist or something...
If they're an anti-death penalty group why should race enter into their arguments at all? If the death penalty is wrong then it's wrong for everyone.

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Re: US Army to perform first execution in nearly 5

Thalia.

Sat Nov 22, 2008 at 01:48:25 PM EST

5.00 (judicial)

Let's just say that the administration of justice is not impartial.  In other words, if a white person and a black person commit the same crime, with the same circumstances, the black person is more likely to get a severe sentence.  Especially if the victim was of the opposite race.

T.

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Re: US Army to perform first execution in nearly 5

zyxwvutsr.

Sat Nov 22, 2008 at 02:17:35 PM EST

none

Let's just say that the administration of justice is not impartial
Let's say that it is. I mean, do you have any evidence that an black American soldier will get a harsher punishment than a white American soldier? If not, then what is the point in bringing up the race of people on the military's death row?

Especially if the victim was of the opposite race
You're making that up.

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Let that be Your Last Battlefield

permazorch.

Mon Nov 24, 2008 at 01:00:50 PM EST

none

Especially if the victim was of the opposite race.

----- The earth may fail, but we will quiver

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I do not count no days

Steve Urkel.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 01:22:43 PM EST

none

The military/civilian death row difference is because the military population has a lower murder rate than the civilian population.

It is funny how the disproportionate number of minorities on death row is a huge concern, but the disproportionate amount of murders minorities commit is no big deal.

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Re: I do not hump no days

zyxwvutsr.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 06:36:59 PM EST

3.00 (limp)

Never mind that. I know it's got to bother you as a fan of west coast rap that Ronald Gray, a founding member of the Digital Underground, is about to be put to death by the US military.

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tupac, go ahead and rock this

Acefantastik.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 06:47:46 PM EST

none

Did you know that Tupac Shakur was in the Digital Underground for a while?  He started as a backup dancer, and then got a solo rap on "Same Song".  

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Re: tupac, go ahead and rock this

zyxwvutsr.

Sat Nov 22, 2008 at 08:38:44 AM EST

none

He started as a backup dancer
That's so incredibly gay it's no wonder he turned gangsta to compensate.

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Re: tupac, go ahead and rock this

Acefantastik.

Sat Nov 22, 2008 at 06:27:54 PM EST

none

By that measurement, Justin Timberlake will lead the entire mafia by 2013.  

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Re: I do not hump no days

Steve Urkel.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 06:56:02 PM EST

none

I guess years of getting away with eating up all the crackers and licorice made him think he was above the law.

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Re: I do not hump no days

zyxwvutsr.

Sat Nov 22, 2008 at 08:39:24 AM EST

none

...getting away with eating up all the crackers and licorice...
Ridiculous.

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December 10th Will Be A Busy Day.

MayorBob.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 07:31:02 PM EST

none

Not only is it scheduled to be Ronald Gray's last day on earth, there's also this.  Maybe they should rename it "Day With A Gay And A Gray."

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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