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NFL Blitzes Super Bowl Parties At Churches

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David -vs- Goliath: round 2, in which Goliath clubs David with his Copyright Stick© and David may or may not fight back using Goliath's own weapon against him.

For years, as many as 200 members of Immanuel Bible Church and their friends have gathered in the church's fellowship hall to watch the Super Bowl on its six-foot screen. The party featured hard hitting on the TV, plenty of food -- and prayer.

But this year, Immanuel's Super Bowl party is no more.

At the heart of the NFL's argument are their claims that watching the Super Bowl in a public place - sports bars being exempt - on a screen larger than 55" or in a room with more than 2,000 square feet, are copyright violations, thusly, any church gatherings under those conditions could possibly come under legal assault from the NFL.

This a continuation of a trend that got some traction last year when the NFL warned an Indianapolis church not to host a Super Bowl party; this year churches are acutely aware of the murky legal waters that surround copyrights and content, and most, while not happy about it, are reconfiguring their assemblies. Says the Rev. Paul Atwater, from North River Community Church in Pembroke, Mass."Even though we think this is a stupid law, we are going to abide by it."

If you're asking yourself why the NFL would crack down on churches and risk a PR backlash, the answer, as it usually boils down to, is money. According to NFL communications vice president Brian McCarthy:

While a free church event of that size might seem harmless, he said thousands of such non-commercial showings would significantly reduce network TV ratings, and thus cut the ad revenue on which Fox and the NFL are counting -- an estimated $275 million for Sunday's game.

Somewhat surprisingly, no churches - excepting one in Alabama - are willing to use the help offered by the conservative-leaning civil liberties group, The Rutherford Institute, to take on the NFL's claims even though there's plenty of wiggle room; consider another claim by the NFL's McCarthy "We have no objection to churches and others hosting Super Bowl parties as long as they . . . show the game on a television of the type commonly used at home." Perhaps McCarthy hasn't been into a Best Buy or Circuit City lately, but screens larger than 55" for homes can be found in abundance. And despite the oft-noted claim from the NFL regarding the dos and don'ts of its content regarding copyright, they themselves have violated copyright regulations.

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Re: NFL Blitzes Super Bowl Parties At Churches

skeeter1.

Sat Feb 02, 2008 at 08:50:39 AM EST

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Well, that just plain makes no fucking sense.  What the difference between a bunch of people gathering at a sports bar to watch the game, and a bunch of people gathering at a church to watch the game?  I don't get it.  It's not like Nielsen is going to be calling every one of the churchgoers to see what they're watching.

As far as the 55" screen goes as "common home size", I went to OfficeMax the other day, and they had some really nifty front-projectors that would make for an image far beyond that.  Hook one up to a laptop, a HDTV tuner, and a stereo with a couple of cables, and I could have an 8' screen!  If I did, I guess I'd be breaking their copyright laws.  

What bullshit.

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delete me.

Sat Feb 02, 2008 at 01:55:40 PM EST

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What the difference between a bunch of people gathering at a sports bar to watch the game, and a bunch of people gathering at a church to watch the game?

I dunno about the other denominations, but Baptists aren't going to be consuming or buying beer when they're with other Baptists. Miller and Budweiser could lose out. ;)

- derumi (del-me)
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zyxwvutsr.

Sat Feb 02, 2008 at 08:54:25 AM EST

4.66 (funny, interesting, interesting)

As far as the 55" screen goes as "common home size", I went to OfficeMax the other day, and they had some really nifty front-projectors that would make for an image far beyond that
One of the linked stories shows a projection screen, which got me to wondering: If the church is using a projection television, why don't they just move the projector close enough to the screen to make a 54.9" image? And then party on.

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1fastdog.

Sat Feb 02, 2008 at 09:17:48 AM EST

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If the church is using a projection television, why don't they just move the projector close enough to the screen to make a 54.9" image?

Probably because it'd be harder to see at that size in some of these places - not impossible or anything, more along the lines of annoying if you're somehow stuck toward the back of the viewing area. From the Christian Post article in the w/up is this quote from of the Rutherford Institute guys:

"They want to restrict it to a 55-inch screen, which in a big church you'd need binoculars to see," Whitehead said. "It's designed to prevent churches and groups like that from doing this. If churches en masse wanted to do this, they could get the law changed."

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MC Nally.

Sat Feb 02, 2008 at 04:53:14 PM EST

4.50 (astute, interesting)

Well, that just plain makes no fucking sense.  What the difference between a bunch of people gathering at a sports bar to watch the game, and a bunch of people gathering at a church to watch the game?
I'm sure perennial Superbowl advertiser Budweiser could probably tell you, in dollars and cents...

..but I do agree that it's a pretty silly initiative on the part of the network.  And it seems to me that if their concern is really about undercounting viewers that they should be having a discussion with the Nielsen people about their methodologies, not threatening to sue neighborhood churches.  For an industry that one would expect would be based in large part about understanding public tastes and attitudes, the public-relations tone-deafness of major media corporations is a constant source of wonderment to me..

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Lou.

Sat Feb 02, 2008 at 09:07:30 AM EST

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Agreed...it's just plain stupid.  Maybe it because I don't work in advertising, but what difference does it make if 1000 people are watching one screen or 100 screens are watched by 10 people each?

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Stupid Policy.

MayorBob.

Sat Feb 02, 2008 at 11:38:21 AM EST

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If you think about it for a minute, the NFL might be in the process of killing the golden goose with a policy like this.  The point behind the broadcast of the Super Bowl isn't to restrict where and when groups of people can watch it.  The point behind the Super Bowl is to increase the number of eyes that watch it in the hopes that some of those eyes will gaze upon the ads and subliminally say, "hey, now that's a product I really need/want/desire."  The NFL already received all the money they're going to receive by licensing the broadcast to Fox, so going after church groups seems like an awfully capricious use of their enforcement rights.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: Stupid Policy.

skeeter1.

Sat Feb 02, 2008 at 05:25:00 PM EST

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"The NFL already received all the money they're going to receive by licensing the broadcast to Fox, so going after church groups seems like an awfully capricious use of their enforcement rights."

Maybe they're just taking after the RIAA and MPAA.   Greed, pure and simple.  Probably too many lawyers as well.  

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There's a pattern here

JimmyHavok.

Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 09:41:32 PM EST

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Some years ago, my mother's church had video night on Saturdays, where they would show some sort of wholesome entertainment in the rec center for whoever wanted to attend.  It got shut down as a copyright violation.

I heard about it second-hand from her, so I don't really know the details, but I've read about similar things being done to other churches.  Apparently someone came up with CVLI in response.

I wonder how the NFL feels about people who have Superbowl parties at home?  Do they think everyone should stay in their own home and watch the game?

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What would Jesus bet?

Steve Urkel.

Sat Feb 02, 2008 at 01:54:35 PM EST

4.50 (brilliant, funny, funny)

I'm thinking the over and the Giants on the money line, because he's an underdog/upset kind of guy.

As for the issue at hand, the NFL should be applauded for going after these churches, it's a huge favor to the poor saps whose wives are forcing them to watch the Superbowl at Church instead of in a bar the way G-d intended.

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Expensive, but cool

Lou.

Sat Feb 02, 2008 at 09:03:28 AM EST

4.00 (funny, funny, interesting)

show the game on a television of the type commonly used at home."

What if they made a wall of 19in t.v.s and hooked them up like they do at Best Buy and instead of a bunch of images it created one unified image?

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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