I don't know if the Chinese leadership really thought this whole Olympics thing through when they started pushing for it in the 1990s. The mantra among the Chinese right now seems to be "the Olympics is about sports and a chance to showcase our culture - leave politics out of it" - but anyone with any sense should have realized that wasn't going to happen. Human rights groups are going to keep the pressure on, religious groups are going to keep the pressure on (my crazy fundamentalist great aunt, who unfortunately found out that I'm a China scholar, keeps giving me literature that she gets in church about how the Chinese a "persecuting the Christians just like the Romans!" and such), and internal dissident groups are going to take advantage of the fact that the eye of the world is on them to raise as much of a stink as they possibly can.
If the Olympics are seen as a failure there will be a real legitimacy cost for the CCP. A lot of the reason the CCP has middle class & elite support right now is because it is seen as doing a good job of controlling the population, managing the economy and rebuilding China's national glory. If the CCP appears to be out of control and embarrassing China, a lot of that good will may evaporate. The CCP is relying on nationalism right now to hold the country together and maintain its legitimacy - but this is like riding a tiger. If the tide of nationalist sentiment turns against the CCP, there may be hell to pay. The CCP recognizes this - this is in large part why they feel they cannot back down over Tibet or Taiwan. These areas have been a mainstay of their nationalist rhetoric for so long that if they did back down, it would be so unpopular that the CCP would face a serious legitimacy crisis. They're sort of playing chicken - they've put themselves into a position where they can legitimately say that the population of China does not want to compromise on the Taiwan issue - but that also means that the CCP leadership can no longer compromise on the Taiwan issue, even if they would want to.
Now, I don't really think that anything that comes out of the Olympics is going to lead to the CCP losing power or that any of these "revolts" in Tibet and Xinjiang will actually be successful (or that Taiwan will declare independence), but I do think that there will be a lot of short term costs to China. These events are going to remind the world once again that China still has a terrible human rights record, which will boost the US effort to continue the EU arms embargo towards China. It will also put increasing pressure on China to deal with some of its "client states" that have even worse human rights records (Zimbabwe, Sudan, Burma) - and if it refuses to do so, it will be much harder for the rest of the world to accept that China is "peacefully rising" to be a "mature member of the international system" (which is the image China badly wants to project).
If China starts to get labeled as a "rogue state" it will destroy the last decade's worth of careful diplomacy that China has engaged in to try to raise its international standing. China has actually been very cooperative with regional organizations in the Asia-Pacific, and most of its neighbors trust China far more right now than they do Japan or the United States. China has really emerged as a regional leader. If it begins to look like China is backsliding, this feeling of good will might quickly dissipate. After Tienanmen in 1989 China's neighbors were very scared, and it took a lot of effort for China to dig itself out of that diplomatic hole. If the same sort of crackdowns happen again in association with the '08 Olympics, we may well see a similar diplomatic cost.
If China isn't able to project a good image, there could also be trade consequences with the US, particularly with the upcoming change in administration. Nancy Pelosi and the House leadership are already very skeptical of China and of free trade. The Senate is a bit more friendly, but not much. Right now China's biggest ally is Bush - once he's out of office, who knows? McCain isn't a sure thing - his anti-torture stance might make him less willing to overlook Chinese abuses than Bush and Clinton were. HRC would probably try to continue business-as-usual. Obama, who knows? He has touted his willingness to engage with countries like Iran and Cuba, but on the other hand his liberal credentials and his anti-free trade posturing suggest that he may not be very China friendly.
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Re: What were they thinking?
Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 05:45:29 AM EST
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if it refuses to do so, it will be much harder for the rest of the world to accept that China is "peacefully rising" to be a "mature member of the international system" (which is the image China badly wants to project).
You answer your own question here. A successful Olympics does a truly huge amount of projecting this image. It's too sweet a candy for China to resist, even knowing that it will give them indigestion.
Much like the Vietnam fighting the US, Tibet never had a chance to win against the full military force of China by any means other than by being such a thorn in the side of China that China would decide that control of Tibet wasn't worth the effort. Aided by cooperation from the US orchestrated by the brother of the Dalai Lama, Tibet was a major thorn in the side of China in the 50s and 60s until US support was ended by Nixon. The problem for any independence movement in Tibet or Xinjiang is that success even in being a major annoyance to China requires either a genius leader capable of operating using only Chinese military's supplies or support in the from of weapons form a foreign power. In order of my estimate of probability, possible nations to provide this support are Russia, the US, India, or an Arab or Muslim power. All of these potential alliances have only a low probability of happening.
Contrary to US popular belief, the Dalai Lama did not call off the Tibetan resistance as a result of a moral stand, but as a practical matter because of the Tibetan casualties for little result which would have resulted from trying to continue it in the absence of US support. His ability and willingness under the correct conditions to call up a large number of fighters willing to die for Tibet is generally greatly underestimated in the West, but there is nothing indicating that these conditions are at all probable.
What these protests were intended to do -- and I believe them to be both orchestrated by the Dalai Lama and intended by him to be peaceful -- is only put a bit of international pressure on China and call a bit of attention to Tibet, while hoping for the small chance of the diplomatic homerun which would result in an alliance with a major foreign power which would allow a true resistance.
"Don't boycott the Olympics over the Tibet protests it will only hurt the athletes"
I call utter bullshit on that one. Preparing for the Olympics costs millions and millions of dollars. In Vancouver they are buying new buses, building new roads and on and on. There is a labour shortage because so much work is going into preparing for the Olympics. They are doing this because tons and tons of people from all over the world will come to Vancouver and spend money, thereby boosting the economy and much of the money spent preparing will hopefully be recovered during the Olympics.
If you boycott the Olympics China will be screwed. They've already spent the money and if they don't get the expect boom to their economy the shit will hit the fan. So yes, boycott the Olympics - cancel the Olympics if you have to. It will make things very difficult for the Chinese administration.
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Re: The olympic compittie says
Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 10:59:03 AM EST
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You make a good argument. I would have to agree that the Chinese take-over of Tibet is at least as offensive and immoral as the take-over of Kuwait by Iraq, which lead to the 1991 Gulf War. However, no one wants a war with China, which is the world's most populous nation, one of the world's greatest economic powers (perhaps soon to be THE greatest) and a nuclear power. As a matter of military practicality, the West conceded Tibet to China a long time ago. It is doubtful that the US would, at this point, even want to go to war to protect Taiwan, which is much more important to the Western world than Tibet ever was.
If we boycott the Olympics we will do real harm to China, but what will China do in retaliation? Do we really want to go down that road? We are at a time in world history when international cooperation seems to be more vital than ever. It will be necessary, very soon (if not immediately) to gain China's support on the UN Security Council for some new solution to the war in Iraq, and for bringing an end to Iran's nuclear weapons program, and probably for several other matters as well. We certainly need China's cooperation for any meaningful global solution to our growing environmental problems. As Chinas economy continues to develop it is likely to become so important that it will play a central role in pretty much everything, replacing the US as the world's dominant power. It does not pay to offend a country which is in that position.
So what can I tell the people of Tibet? Only that I am sorry, but I can't help them. This is not a happy answer, but it is a realistic one.
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Re: The olympic compittie says
Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 03:41:19 PM EST
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Skeptic, you've made many very good points. This is why so many people throughout the world are suffering - "if I try to help them it might affect my standard of living, I'm sorry there is nothing I can do." Like you said, it is not a happy answer but it is currently the answer most often provided.
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Re: The olympic compittie says
Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:22:27 AM EST
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My comment about Tibet isn't actually related to the issue of my standard of living, it is about some rather more urgent concerns. It is true, however, that people who care overly much about their personal standard of living do constitute a major obstacle to some of the reforms that the world urgently needs, particularly in the area of environmental degradation.
I might add that although I am not calling for a boycott of the Chinese Olympics, neither do I plan to attend. I suppose that if everybody does just follow their conscience, the result would be equivalent to a boycott, even if none is actually declared. That might be an appropriate solution.
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Re: The olympic compittie says
Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 01:34:11 PM EST
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It is doubtful that the US would, at this point, even want to go to war to protect Taiwan, which is much more important to the Western world than Tibet ever was.
Does the US have military advisors in Taiwan? I would imagine they would. I'm too lazy to google to find if this is the case or not.
I can't imagine the US allowing a Chinese attack to cause American casualties and then sitting back without any type of retaliatory response. I imagine such an answer to a ChiComm invasion would case the loss of more "face" for the US than would a military loss to China.
True, there may be political unrest and Beijing might not be an environmentally safe place to compete. Yet no one has brought up the potential disaster of Squat Toilets. With an anticipated 500,000 visitors coming to the games, what will happen when westerners try to negotiate such facilities and wind up falling into their own shit? Or worse...having an Olympic case of constipation? Oh the humanity!
I can't argue with your logic...but I can recommend a good therapist
Let's start organizing a boycott right here!
I refuse to compete in the 2008 Olympics.