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Alcohol -- The World's Drug of Choice

skeeter1.

Posted to Etcetera on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 12:20:10 PM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

Just about everyone likes to mellow out with an alcoholic beverage from time-to-time.  There are just so many and life is too short.

Wine has always been popular and a very good accompaniment to a meal, but there are many other options.

Beer is always good.  There are so many great microbreweries.  My favorite is Nosferatu Red from the Great Lakes Brewing Co.  It's only available in the fall, but I look forward to it.  It's something of a India Pale Ale on hop steroids.  

Thanks to the work of Charlie Papazian, I've made beer many times at home.  It's a lot of work, but you don't need the patience that you do with homemade wine.  I've made wine, and it had to age two years before it was any good.  Beer is ready in three weeks.

Scotch is good, but the good single-malts can get really expensive.  I once paid $100 for a bottle of Springbank.

America wouldn't be America without Bourbon.  

Gin, Vodka, Benedictine & Brandy, Drambuie... Oh, there are just so many to try, and life is too short.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by skeeter1, alcohol, beer, wine, whiskey, whisky, liquor (all tags)

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Cause of... and solution to... all life's problems

mrpoopyface.

Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 01:56:06 PM EST

4.00

I'm a bit of a drunk myself.  I'm partial to bourbon, partly because I work at a restaurant with a huge bourbon selection and they encourage us to become bourbon snobs.  But I've come to the realization though that I just don't have the palette or the energy to really care, so I just go for what's cheap.  Unless I'm on one of my occasional manhattan kicks, just give me a rail bourbon and a PBR.

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Re: Cause of... and solution to... all life's prob

thefadd.

Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 02:37:03 PM EST

4.00 (informative)

The manhattan is a seriously underrated drink these days and a bartender who can make a quality one is not someone to be tipped lightly.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: Alcohol -- The World's Drug of Choice

thefadd.

Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 02:06:23 PM EST

none

I am rather broken up over the fact that I can't really drink beer right now for health reasons. I can grab a couple lagers but the dark beers I love most are out. I got into red wine there for awhile but I get sick of it too fast to really be into it. That's left me with white wine which I find way too sweet and completely sissified 98% of the time.

That of course leaves hard liquor which is not anything to complain about. Tequila was a favorite of mine for awhile and I think it offers to broadest range of tastes within a single drink. It can have a sweet, a sour, a kick and so many other tastes all within one shot. I've even had a port-like tequila. I appreciate gin a heckuva lot and nothing really tops a great whiskey in my mind. For me, it's the only thing that compares to tequila for drinking straight. Gin is a great cutter in many other things...martinis, bloody marys...but it's just not something I enjoy neat.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: Alcohol -- The World's Drug of Choice

Steve Urkel.

Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 04:38:54 PM EST

none

I enjoy the occasional shot of single-malt, but I think because of the whole single-malt mania blended scotches have become underrated. You can drink more of them and you can unabashadely pour them over ice.  

There seems to be many more Belgian beers available on tap these days, which is nice.

 

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Scotch

Lou.

Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 07:55:09 PM EST

none

Midshelf scotch

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Rum

pO157.

Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 07:17:21 AM EST

none

...in an elevator. Livin it up when I'm going down.

Actually, I have been avoiding all elevators for the past 3 weeks after a series of unfortunate events lead to me being stuck in one at work for 25 minutes.

Anywho, Rum is what gets this party started. I feel kind of bad because I don't really have a taste for wine. I think we need an official TnT winery tour so I can tell the difference between good and bad.

Beer wise it's vitamin Y.

Oh, and in other news, I hate all alcohol snobs. Unless you are really into gin and you tell a bartender "I simply must get out of these wet clothes and into a dry martini." In that case I'll give you a pass.

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Re: Rum

skeptic.

Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 10:05:17 AM EST

4.00 (informative)

You needn't feel that you need to learn the difference between good wine and bad.  I would suggest that you just drink what you like.  The only reason you would actually need to be educated in the fine points of wine selection is if you actually worked in that field, as, let us say, a waiter in an elegant restaurant, where the customers might ask your advice about what wine would go well with the meal that they wish to eat.  Possibly there is no wine that you like, in which case, you are under no obligation to dink wine.  Drink what you like.  Personally, I am just as happy to drink Coca-Cola.  And it's a lot cheaper.  

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Re: Rum

thefadd.

Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 05:11:09 PM EST

none

It's probably not as good for you, though.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: Rum

skeptic.

Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 09:10:38 AM EST

none

Red wine in moderation has been shown to have health advantages, and Coca-Cola in excess certainly presents heath risks.  If I were to suggest an ideal drink, it would probably be red grape juice, which offers the same (or greater) health benefits as red wine, is quite delicious, presents a much lesser risk of obesity than Coca-Cola, and presents no risk of alcoholism, drunk driving, etc.  Many wines are also much more expensive than grape juice, although the prices of cheap wine are comparable to those of grape juice.  Coca-Cola is still cheaper, but then, money isn't everything.  Sometimes you have to spend more, to get a product of a suitable degree of quality.  

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Be careful

Lou.

Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 11:14:52 AM EST

none

I was on a juice kick for a while.  I smugly guzzled all kinds while my less healthy compatriots drank that evil sugary soda.  Then I finally got around to reading the labels.  Yikes...some of the juices (an not "juice drinks" mind you) had almost as much sugar as soda.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: Be careful

skeptic.

Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 11:22:51 AM EST

none

True enough.  There is a very wide variety of drinks made (partially or entirely) from fruit juices, and if you want to drink something that is good for your health, you must read the labels.

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Re: Be careful

postillion.

Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 10:05:34 PM EST

4.00 (interesting)

Yeah, nothing will get you fatter quicker than drinking a mega large jamba juice every single day.

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Re: Rum

skeeter1.

Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 12:46:32 PM EST

none

'You needn't feel that you need to learn the difference between good wine and bad.  I would suggest that you just drink what you like."

Words of wisdom.  A good buddy of mine and I go to a fairly-good Italian restaurant near me, and always get a carafe of the house Chablis and another carafe of ice to drink it with.  That's about as unsnobby as you can get.  Doesn't matter to us.  It's perfect with pizza or, my favorite, chicken cacciatore.  

there's only one way to find out...

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Re: Rum

postillion.

Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 10:08:10 PM EST

none

Wine makes me pass out after a glass (as I discovered, to my horror, at a business party).

So, generally, I stick to hard liquor now.  

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Re: Alcohol -- The World's Drug of Choice

Coelacanth.

Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 11:21:00 AM EST

none

Oban.  Lagavulin.  Bowmore.

Also: Tanq 10 and Hendricks Martinis.  With measurable vermouth content and olives.

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Re: Alcohol -- The World's Drug of Choice

skeeter1.

Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 12:21:57 PM EST

none

"Oban.  Lagavulin.  Bowmore."

I've tried those, and a couple dozen more.

My favorite drink, when I'm feeling in a "fancy" mood, is a Rusty Nail.  If I could afford it, I'd drink them all night long (and sometimes have).  I like mine with lots of ice -- they last longer that way.  Because the Drambuie is so good, you can get away with using cheap Scotch, like Chivas Regal, about as cheap as I go.  But I've got to say, make one with an expensive single-malt, like Springbank,  Knockando, Macallan, or the like, and it's a little bit of (expensive) heaven.  Talisker is my favorite for drinking "neat", but it's a bit too harsh for making a Rusty Nail.

there's only one way to find out...

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Re: Alcohol -- The World's Drug of Choice

Coelacanth.

Mon Apr 07, 2008 at 07:04:34 AM EST

none

Talisker is wonderful, but it's an acquired taste.  Worth acquiring, in my opinion, but I've learned not to serve it to occasional Scotch drinkers.   Springbank is so smooth  the bottle appears to evaporate when you are not looking.  Well, I can tell 'cause I'm walking into walls and posting to P**** and such.  

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Re: Alcohol -- The World's Drug of Choice

ckm.

Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 11:05:19 PM EST

none

Agreed.  Lagavulin, with a really good fat cigar.  Two decent sized glasses and one cigar and I am done for the night.

Last time I actually indulged in that was at a private cigar club in San Francisco.  

Awesome.

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Re: Alcohol -- The World's Drug of Choice

skeptic.

Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 11:19:37 AM EST

none

Alcohol is unquestionably a very important drug, but perhaps it is not really the world's drug of choice.  There are many countries in which alcohol is illegal, because alcohol is prohibited by Islam.  

Tobacco is more widely used than alcohol and is legal everywhere, although it is also very widely (and correctly) regarded as a health menace, and its use is increasingly discouraged even if it is not banned outright.

Probably the most widely used and widely accepted drug in the world is caffeine (found in coffee, cola, and chocolate).  However, the effect of caffeine is generally quite mild.  At worst, caffeine sometimes keeps people up past the time they had wanted to go to sleep, although there are also long-term health effects, particularly on the heart.  Whereas alcoholic intoxication is a much more impressive (and dangerous) effect.  Hence, when considering candidates for the title of the world's drug of choice, it would be easy to overlook caffeine.  Still, it deserve the title.

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What happened to Chianti?

Lou.

Sun Apr 06, 2008 at 04:57:51 PM EST

none

My mom's Italian...we're not from New Jersey...just Staten Island with is pretty much the same thing.

But I digress...

Chianti was a traditional drink at all the big holiday dinners.  At the time, I can't imagine why anyone would drink it on purpose.  Maybe my parents thought by offering up this wine they would dissuade my sibs and I from drinking.  Small hope!  Even when I was quite young, I got a glass and after a while I got to like it.  

It's been years since I had any chianti so I thought I would try it again.  Unfortunately, the grocery store I frequent only had Gallo Chianti.  That's ok, because that's what my folks bought anyway. (I do not come from a long line of highbrow drinkers).  So, I carefully twisted off the metal cap...sniffed it appreciatively, and poured a glass.

When did Chianti become sweet?!  I always remembered it as having a pucker inducing dryness.  Did my palette change or did the good folks at Gallo throw a handful of sugar into each bottle?

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: What happened to Chianti?

ivyafire.

Sun Apr 06, 2008 at 06:26:50 PM EST

4.00 (astute)

Your palate changed.  I used to drink wine all the time and as I did I went progressively dryer.

Now that I don't drink so often, the stuff I used to like tastes too dry.  I'm embarrassed to admit to old friends what swill I'll drink now.  It's not quite Boone's Farm, but it's far from Château Lafite-Rothschild.

"It was an ancient rule of Hawaiians that no one should hurt another bodily, or through theft of goods or through injury to feelings.These were the only sins."

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Re: What happened to Chianti?

thefadd.

Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 06:51:03 PM EST

none

I dunno...I wouldn't trust anything from Gallo. I do love a nice cheap chianti, tho.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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