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It's February 20th, 2009 And Why The Hell Can't I Get Jerry Springer On My TV Set?

MayorBob.

Posted to Business on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 10:40:32 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

If you're a TV viewer who isn't hooked up to cable or satellite services, you might be in for a big surprise on February 19th of next year.  That's the magic date when television broadcasters will stop sending analog signals.  Therefore, if you're picking up your transmission through your own house antenna or rabbit ears on an old analog box, you won't be seeing anything after February 19th.  Unless, of course you have a new box with a digital tuner in it or you're a cable or satellite customer (they're doing all the conversion work for you).  This is not a date which has been creeping up on us unannounced.  The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has been letting the public know of the upcoming transition for years.

Retailers selling TV sets in the US were supposed to be taking proactive steps to ease the transition for the buying public.  They were either only going to be selling boxes with digital tuners in them or, if they were still selling the old analog boxes, posting advisories prominently on the boxes they were selling to the American public.  Looks like something slipped through the cracks at retailers like Wal-Mart, Sears, and Circuit City (not to mention a few others).  Looks like the enforcement arm of the FCC wasn't asleep as it levied fines (pdf doc) totaling over (US)$6 million on 11 companies for either failing to comply with labeling or V-chip requirements or have continued to import non-digital tuner equipped boxes into the US.

The FCC had conducted inspections of 2,272 stores and issued 349 warnings to retailers for failing to comply with the labeling requirements.  Retailers were given "a reasonable opportunity" to comply with the warnings.  According to the FCC, the companies being hit with the fines are those who failed to comply.  Sears, which received the heaviest fines over non-labeling, said it was "surprised" by the FCC action, seeing as how it had been working closely with the agency.  Wal-Mart, which received a $992K fine from the FCC, would only say "all product that we sell today complies with FCC regulations."  Best Buy, hit for $280K, said it was "disappointed" by the FCC action as they had taken active steps to get rid of their analog inventory last year and they didn't believe they violated the FCC rule "in any willful or repeated manner."  The companies have 30 days to appeal the fines.

If you still have that analog box, or you were among those who purchased analog boxes unwittingly from these retailers, you can still ensure you can watch your program of choice on your antenna or rabbit ears past February 19th.  You just need to purchase a TV converter box (they cost about $60), and hope that (if you live in a rural area) you can still get a signal.  The FCC is offering a coupon worth $40 to help defray the cost of the box.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by MayorBob, television, digital tuner, analog tuner, FCC, Sears, Wal-Mart, Best Buy (all tags)

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Need to mention this.

MayorBob.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 11:23:08 AM EST

5.00 (informative)

That $40 coupon is only one per household.  Meaning, if you have four old analog boxes in your house, you'll need to buy four converters at a total cost of about $200 ($60 per converter - $40 coupon).  I'm also informed that, if you're a cable customer with an analog box, come February 19th you're going to have rent a small digital converter box for the top of your set.  I haven't a clue what the monthly rental on one of those is.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: Need to mention this.

port1080.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 12:28:36 PM EST

5.00 (informative, informative)

I'm also informed that, if you're a cable customer with an analog box, come February 19th you're going to have rent a small digital converter box for the top of your set.

If you're a cable customer with an analog box, switch to satellite. Dish and DirecTV are both cheaper than cable, and they both offer equipment that is fully compatible with either analog or digital. Verizon's FiOS is also a good choice, but it's still not available in many areas.

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Re: Need to mention this.

thefadd.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 01:52:30 PM EST

none

And neither one comes through when it rains. Cause that's exactly what I want from my television service. Actually, I love directv. One of the easiest companies ever to be a customer of. Perhaps it's because they're used to having a very upscale clientθle most of their existence? Actually, I hate them. If I had cable, I'd probably have gotten rid of the television service by now and it's just not something I need.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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MC Nally.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 07:59:19 PM EST

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And neither one comes through when it rains.
I live in an area that knows rain.  Our average annual rainfall is around 150 inches (that's 12 1/2 feet if you prefer to look at it that way) and the year before last we had 186.  During late fall and early winter rainy days outnumber days without rain six or seven to one (i.e. if you get one day without rain per week you're doing about average.)

Yet, oddly, satellite television is fairly popular here.  I don't doubt that rainfall can degrade the signal reception somewhat, but I think there must be a bit more to it than "neither one comes through when it rains."

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Re: Need to mention this.

songofthepogo.

Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 03:38:10 AM EST

none

i love portland

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Why?

pO157.

Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:22:16 PM EST

none

I've never been.

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Re: Why?

songofthepogo.

Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 04:35:32 PM EST

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i was attempting to make an admittedly lame joke about rain.  that said, i do love portland (oregon).  i can't really explain why.  it's a nice place to live.  it's in a beautiful area, there are interesting things to do and see, and it doesn't really feel like a city, more like "my town".  this post is way, way off topic.

to get back on topic, we have a very "normal" tv - a standard-definition crt with an ntsc tuner only - so, we'd be having to buy one of those tuner boxes, come the changeover, but we also have a small computer sitting around (a mac mini) that we weren't really using, so we got an elgato eyeTV for it, which has both an atsc and ntsc tuner in it.  we additionally picked up a smallish, powered antenna and we are able, with this combo, to pull in all the ota digital broadcasts that are available to us (and use the mini to record things).  

we won't need to worry about getting a converter box.  nor do i don't think we'll be bothering with a "fancy pants" set for some time to come.  several friends and family members have gone and gotten 50 inch hdtv monstrosities and i'm honestly not that impressed with the picture quality.  plus tv is, for the most part, not so incredibly awesome content-wise that i particularly need to have it in high-def and digital surround.  don't get me wrong, i like to veg in front of the boob toob, but 27 inches of 4:3 sd is already more than it deserves.

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Re: Why?

thefadd.

Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 08:27:56 PM EST

none

Oh crap. I'm supposed to go for the first time in July but I keep forgetting.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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thefadd.

Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:18:03 PM EST

none

That is weird...maybe I have older hardware. It only rains like 5 times a year here and each time the directv goes out completely. I always wondered how they have customers in places like Seattle.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Shenanigans!

pO157.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 04:32:13 PM EST

none

I have Dish Network. In the 10 months or so since I switched I've noticed ~3 or 4 outages. None lasted longer than an hour, most only a few minutes. For some reason you usually get five or ten minutes of outtage at the start of a major storm but once the storm is in full effect it's okay.

At least in my area the idea that it goes out when it rains is a big lie. And as a nice plus you don't have to deal with some angry person who can barely speak English when you call, which is almost never since I seldom have any issues with it. Unlike my cable company. I'm glad I kicked them to the curb. The only time they acted like they cared about my business was when I called to tell them I had switched to Dish and disconnect their shit from my house.

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port1080.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 06:54:19 PM EST

none

Yeah, I've never had any major problems with rain. Also, I have DVR, so on the rare occasion that the service does go out, I can watch something that's recorded and record the show I wanted to watch at a later time.

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I was an early adopter

skeeter1.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 06:25:41 PM EST

4.66 (informative, interesting, interesting)

I didn't particularly want to be, but my TV died about 5 years ago, and I knew digital was on the horizon.  I scraped together five grand and got a Sharp Aquos 37" LCD HDTV.  They've come down dramatically in price since then.  

I'm fairly handy with both hand tools and electronics, and managed to hook up a DB4 antenna (I know it's supposed to be for outdoor use) onto an old microphone stand for use indoors.  With it, I can get get 11 digital channels off the airwaves for free.

If your at this site, it means you have a computer.  Well, if you have one with enough horsepower (1.8GHz processor, 1GB RAM, and a USB 2.0 port, 64MB video RAM, CD-ROM drive), you can always get a Hauppauge digital receiver for <$100.  I have one, and even with it's tiny antenna, I can still get 10 digital channels on my laptop.

I'm frugal (read: cheap-ass), and will not pay monthly fees for cable or satellite when I can get all of the major networks for free.  Besides, satellite service (I've had experience with it) goes out whenever there's a storm, and cable isn't much better (one of the neighbors is having their yard trenched up right now for a new cable connection).

I have no plans to get the coupon for a converter.  My one little analog (bedroom) TV is going to get pitched when the analog signal goes quiet.

there's only one way to find out...

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Re: I was an early adopter

joshv.

Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 07:49:02 AM EST

none

I was astounded by the number of digital channels we could get with an antenna, 15-20, and all of them crystal clear.  But for some reason the CBS affiliate doesn't come in at all.  We bought our HDTV to be christened at a Superbowl party a few years back, and guess who had the superbowl that year?  CBS.  So we had to get Comcast, and now my wife won't let me cancel.

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I say fuck Comcast.

TonedEff.

Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 07:29:55 PM EST

none

I used to have Comcast and had been diddling around replacing it with Verizon FIOS.  I mean, it wasn't enough to have to put up with the obnoxious, crappy customer service from Comcast but over the past year or so, I've noticed the signal was breaking up on some of my premium channels.  Right in the middle of a movie or show and the signal would start to break up into those little pixels.  I figure with what I'm paying per month to Comcast I ought to get crystal clear reception on my HDTV set.  They'd send me a service technician who'd dicker around with the cable box outside and swap me DVR boxes and still, sooner or later, I'd get the same distortion.

Finally I'd had enough and ordered FIOS.  Other than a bit of confusion over when the installer was going to be at my house to set me up with FIOS, it's been all good.  No distortion and no break up of signal in the last three months.  At any rate, I'm reading the Consumerist last month and I come across this nice little piece of information.  So, I say fuck Comcast.

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