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Searching for a cure for my brown thumb

skeeter1.

Posted to Etcetera on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 11:33:48 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

I'm not very successful as a gardener.  Several of the shrubs I planted in front of the house a couple of years ago are now dead as a doornail.  The deer have already ruined my tulips, and the squirrels dug up all my daffodil bulbs years ago.  I've had a little better luck with annuals, but they're sort of expensive by the flat, and have to be replanted every year (of course).  

This year, I'm contemplating tearing it all out and planting mixed wildflowers instead.  It strikes me as an  environmentally better solution, and easy to do.  It should also be good for the butterflies and honeybees, both of which are in dwindling numbers around here (and many other areas).

I really don't want to waste another grand on shrubbery (which don't benefit anything) and only have them die again.  Well, that is unless it's part of a Monty Python flick

Anyone else planning on going (or have done) the wildflower garden routine?  Share your experiences.

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For cheap and easy: try nasturtiums

MC Nally.

Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 08:29:11 PM EST

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From the write-up:

I've had a little better luck with annuals, but they're sort of expensive by the flat, and have to be replanted every year (of course).
There are several flowers that I can think of that start very well from seed.  The easiest I know (and a staple of my garden) are nasturtiums (which are a big hit with our local hummingbirds.)

They're vibrantly colorful, robust, popular with birds and bees, don't require full sun, available in many varieties, and bloom for months if you pick the flowers off before they go to seed.  A packet of seeds costs about $1.69 and will probably easily start 20-30 plants if you want that many (I usually put a couple of plants in each basket, which usually leads to a nice mix of colors depending on the variety.  Also, if you're adventurous, the leaves and blossoms are edible, having a kind of a peppery flavor to them.

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Re: For cheap and easy: try nasturtiums

ms sue.

Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:46:35 AM EST

none

The easiest I know (and a staple of my garden) are nasturtiums (which are a big hit with our local hummingbirds.)

Popular but considered invasive.

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Re: For cheap and easy: try nasturtiums

1fastdog.

Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 01:03:42 PM EST

none

Depends on what zone you live in, Sue. Probably not a great idea out there in sunny California, but here in PA they can't survive the fall/winter season. And hey, they're edible, too.
Nasturtiums -  Come in varieties ranging from trailing to upright and in brilliant sunset colors with peppery flavors. Nasturtiums rank among most common edible flowers. Blossoms have a sweet, spicy flavor similar to watercress. Stuff whole flowers with savory mousse. Leaves add peppery tang to salads. Pickled seed pods are less expensive substitute for capers. Use entire flowers to garnish platters, salads, cheese tortas, open-faced sandwiches, and savory appetizers.

Somewhere in my soul, there's always Rock -n- Roll... Joe Strummer

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Don't ask for my advise...

port1080.

Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 03:21:02 PM EST

none

We planted some irises last fall and so far they're doing well (although they haven't bloomed yet). We shelled out a bunch for some flats of pansies to put in window boxes around our house, plus two hanging baskets - and then two nights ago it must have frosted, a little, because about half the blooms shriveled up. I think they'll recover, for the most part, but it's still frustrating as hell - who expects a frost in Delaware in mid-April?

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Re: Searching for a cure for my brown thumb

thefadd.

Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 05:00:39 PM EST

none

Any ideas for an apartment dweller would be welcome, too. I've been thinking I should start something.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: Searching for a cure for my brown thumb

MC Nally.

Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:50:03 PM EST

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Any ideas for an apartment dweller would be welcome, too. I've been thinking I should start something.
Container garden.

What you choose to plant will depend very much on local conditions -- climate, precipitation, sunshine, local animals and birds, pests, etc.

I do a simple container garden on my deck every summer and choose an assortment of flowers and herbs that are easy to grow and each year it gets a bit bigger.  My deck has a couple of different lighting zones, which affects what I plant (and where)  Away from the house along the front and in the middle of the deck, I get full sun.  In the shadow of the house I get full or part shade, which makes a difference, so I typically plant a more shade-loving mix near the house, e.g. in the kitchen windowboxes

Just a few planters and baskets can make a big difference in your enjoyment of an outdoor space.

Things to remember:

  1. Plants are pretty simple.  They require:
    • light
    • water
    • food
    • protection from diseases, predators, and damaging conditions (drought, high winds, etc.)
    If you provide them with those they will generally do well.
  2. Start with a few choices that are basic, robust, and inexpensive and see how you do before adding more.  Ask at the nursery for recommendations that are appropriate for your area.
  3. Use good-quality soil (i.e. if you are going to grow in containers, use a good potting mix -- don't just buy cheap topsoil) and apply fertilizer periodically.
  4. Container-grown plants have less recourse against drought than plants which are in the ground, so water regularly.
  5. Many annual flowering plants require moderate maintenance, such as removal of blossoms before they go to seed (aka "deadheading") to keep the plant in bloom.  If you don't know, ask when selecting plants whether you should cut or pinch off blossoms after they peak to keep the rest of the plant going.  Also, ask for plants that will remain in bloom through most of the season.

I live in Southeast Alaska, and my climate zone is similar to coastal BC and the Pacific Northwest region west of the Cascades.  If anyone is a beginner from those areas and wants suggestions for what works well in my containers, post here or PM me.

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Re: Searching for a cure for my brown thumb

skeeter1.

Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:55:30 AM EST

none

"Any ideas for an apartment dweller would be welcome, too. I've been thinking I should start something."

Well. you might want to try a couple of these, but they're not exactly giving them away.  You should be able to get some simple containers and potting soil for a lot less.  

As for what you plant, that's entirely up to you.  Tomatoes are always good.  Bush beans will work.  Viney things, like squash & cucumbers are out.   Same for corn.  Greens like spinach or swiss chard would do well, as would any sort of peppers.  

If you're after flowers, as I mentioned above -- I'm going to try wildflowers this year.  Should be low maintenance, and it doesn't turn out right, I can always pull out the weedeater and that's that!

This link and it's accompanying links might be of help to you.  

there's only one way to find out...

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Re: Searching for a cure for my brown thumb

thefadd.

Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:10:46 PM EST

none

Some leafy greens would be cool or other edible vegetation. I'm hoping to just throw some dirt and seeds out into the courtyard area. It's mainly just hard dirt right now. Any ideas on getting the soil started? We're talking a really small area...maybe 5x5 max.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: Searching for a cure for my brown thumb

skeeter1.

Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 07:35:18 PM EST

none

"Any ideas on getting the soil started?"

Two, off the top of my head.  Know anyone with composted yard waste?  My parents used to compost the leaves from their yard (I know, because I had to rake many of them) and till them into the garden the following year.  Wonder black stuff.  Many communities around here gather up the leaves in the fall and compost them, and most will give them away for free if you bring your own containers.

If that doesn't work for you, get yourself a bale of peat moss.  You can't go wrong, and one bale is more than enough for a garden the size you're talking about.  

there's only one way to find out...

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Un-deaden a lawn?

pO157.

Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 08:28:24 PM EST

none

Anybody have any suggestions on how to undeaden a lawn? The back "yard" has the yellowish dog pee spots from her favorite locations. I got some of that denitrifying/seed/water crystal pet lawn rescue mix from the hardware store.

Well the front yard. That's another story. Various random dead spots on it, because having the concrete company dump gravel and dirt on it during the summer when they redid our driveway didn't help. Also, weeds that have crowded out the grass in a few confined locations. The fact that neighborhood idiots dump cigarette butts, garbage and random foreign objects on it from time to time doesn't help.

I want a lawn a psycho 85 year old with a Mossburg shotgun, a pitcher of mint julips and porch would be proud of.

Without the effort.

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Re: Un-deaden a lawn?

port1080.

Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 08:47:21 PM EST

none

You could shell out the money to have it re-sodded.  If it's not a huge yard, it shouldn't be all that bad, probably a few hundred or so.

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Re: Un-deaden a lawn?

thefadd.

Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:07:24 PM EST

none

I don't have much intention of keeping a lawn when I get a house. Plenty of houses around here have large fences all the way to the sidewalk and you can just put a nice tiled courtyard effect inside of that. We have dogs so I don't see much sense in trying to beautiful the back in a typical way. I'd like to go for a wild garden type effect that looks basically good in any non-dead state. Sorry no helpful lawn hints:)

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: Un-deaden a lawn?

pO157.

Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:11:14 PM EST

none

There is actually a nice elderly Korean couple on the corner that does that. Picket fences and a garden out front and the whole walled/fenced off compound thing going on in the back. They make it look nice. Even has a giant flag pole in the back. All they need are some marines and they'd have the whole embassy of civilization on the edge of low property values.

Jerks tag their fence with graffiti. At least litter can get picked up, paint doesn't come off so easily.

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