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Television - the medium that everyone loves to hate... and loves

skeeter1.

Posted to Media on Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 12:32:08 PM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

I was a product of the '50s, when television was just becoming popular.  All we had then was Black & White, but without, I'd never have seen the Zapruder film of the assassination of John F. Kennedy, the wonder of the first  lunar landing in 1969.  Later on came color TV, and with it the horrors of the Vietnam War, the god-awful  vision of 9/11/01, and countless other news events.

I'm always amused when people try to say they never watch television.  Bullshit.  If you missed events like these and many others, you might just as well live under a rock.  

Today, we have many choices, cable (although I strongly dismiss the authors contention that 99% of Americans have cable or satellite), satellite dishes are springing up every where.  

And then there are the tight-wads like me who are perfectly happy to get their HDTV for free over the airwaves.  

Let's face it, if you're on this or any other internet site, you're not low-tech.  TV, like cellphones, microwave ovens, computers, lawn blowers...  all things that people love to hate, are here to stay.

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1975

Steve Urkel.

Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 01:59:16 PM EST

5.00 (interesting, informative)

"All we had then was Black & White, but without, I'd never have seen the Zapruder film of the assassination of John F. Kennedy"

The Zapruder film was first shown on TV in 1975, on the show Good Night America, hosted by Geraldo Rivera.  

1975 was a great year for TV. You had classic comedies like Sanford and Son, Good TImes, and The Bob Newhart Show. You had classic PI shows like The Rockford Files and Mannix. You had gritty police dramas like The Streets of San Francisco and Starsky and Hutch. You had The Six Million Dollar Man, which featured the ingenious device of showing him in slow motion when he was running faster. Seriously, who ever came up with that and managed to persuade everyone else to to do it was brilliant.

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Re: 1975

skeeter1.

Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 03:54:54 PM EST

none

"The Zapruder film was first shown on TV in 1975, on the show Good Night America, hosted by Geraldo Rivera."

I'm not sure of your source of information, but I seem to remember seeing the Zapruder film back in 1963.  My memory might not be that great, because I'm older than dirt.  At any rate, I can't imagine a life without television.  

As a kid, I remember watching my grandmother's TV, something like this.  Giant wooden box with a tiny screen, and I was forced to watch Lawrence Welk.  God, I hated that.  They still show re-runs of that crap on PBS.  Like there hasn't been a lot of crap on TV over the years.

On the other hand, I'm watching the baseball game (Cleveland Indians) for free at the moment, versus $100+ to go to a game any more.  I'll put up with the commercials, thanks, and I can make my own hotdogs better and beer is only as far as the fridge.

TV, like or not, is probably the primary news and information source in many (most?) houses for nearly a half-century.  Technology at it's best/worst?  Your call.

there's only one way to find out...

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Re: Zapruder film chronology

Steve Urkel.

Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 04:09:52 PM EST

none

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Memory plays tricks on people's minds, skeeter1.

MayorBob.

Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 04:26:09 PM EST

none

You didn't see the Zapruder film back in 1963.  What you saw was a few frames from the film which were published in Life magazine.  The first time they saw the light of day was a week after the assassination.  What I recall seeing telecast was some other footage taken by other people than Zapruder.  As I recall, what was broadcast was just some very shaky footage of people ducking for cover and shots of JFK's limo leaving Dealey Plaza.  The thing about Zapruder's footage is that it was the best footage of the assassination in that it was focused on the limo as it made its way through Dealey Plaza and captured the bullet strikes, Kennedy grasping for his throat and Jackie hopping on the trunk of the limo desperately trying to chase after a piece of JFK's skull and brain.  Urkel is right, the entirety of the Zapruder film wasn't publicly aired for at least a decade after the assassination.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Tee Vee

keta.

Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 06:13:12 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

I haven't had TV for about nine years now, and I can't begin to tell you how freeing that is.  Sure, I truly miss things (mostly sports, docs, and movies), but how much of our time did/do we really watch absolute shit?  I mean, pure unadulterated shit?

TV here to stay?  Certainly.  But that doesn't mean we have to sit in front of it every fucking night, from the time we get home from work until we go to sleep.  Unfortunately, that sums up the viewing habits of far, far too many people.  You know, the dumb fucks.  

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Re: Tee Vee

postillion.

Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 10:16:19 PM EST

5.00 (interesting)

I haven't had TV for about nine years now, and I can't begin to tell you how freeing that is.

I haven't had a tv for 3 years and I agree: it is freeing in all sorts of way.

First off: I got my sense of time back.  My evenings and weekends are no longer increments of 30 minutes or 1 hour.  Instead, time is a continuum again.

Second: I can actually see everything around me without it being informed by the value system of the marketing/ad world that propels tv shows.  When I see someone, I am no longer doing some unconscious mental check against the wacked out notions of anorexic plastic surgery attractiveness of actors and actresses.  Instead, people are just what exactly what they are.  The color of the sky is much more meaningful in reality than on tv.

Third: I've stopped caring about the latest anything.  This has been a huge savings.  Once I stopped seeing endless movie trailers, knowing about the latest bands, the latest must have technology...everything that is promoted by ads (which is almost everything there is), it let me have better control over my buying impulses and hence my finances.

Lastly, and most importantly: I've gotten my concentration back so that I can again read books that are over 250 pages as well as books that contain sustained arguments, along with serious good fiction.  Proust!

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dee vee arrrrh, matey

JimmyHavok.

Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 01:54:21 AM EST

none

I've got a DVR, so I'm no longer tied to the TV schedule.  I end up watching more TV, because the stuff I like is now saved for me, but I also watch it more efficiently, since I skip through the commercials.  And if I run into something that I want to watch now, I just put the DVR into timeslip mode and go waste a little time.  Great excuse to wash the dishes.

When I was in the hospital, I had to watch regular TV...it was almost unbearable.  I'd mute during the commercials, but I still had to glance up to see if they were over yet, then quickly unmute when the content returned.  I ended up reading instead, once I got something to read.  From what the nurses brought me (a newspaper which they snatched back in five minutes, and a Sports Illustrated), I was the only reader in the whole ward.

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Re: dee vee arrrrh, matey

Lou.

Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 10:16:26 AM EST

4.00 (funny)

since I skip through the commercials.

You skip commercials?  My god man...that's...that's stealing!

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: dee vee arrrrh, matey

JimmyHavok.

Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 02:23:57 PM EST

5.00 (funny, funny)

Arrrrh, matey.  It's piracy!

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Re: dee vee arrrrh, matey

postillion.

Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 09:21:11 AM EST

none

I remember reading something a few years back that said that people with DVR generally end up watching roughly 4 hours more TV per week.

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Re: dee vee arrrrh, matey

JimmyHavok.

Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 09:04:53 PM EST

none

I'd guess my consumption went up more than that, but I tend to turn the TV off as soon as commercials irk me, so I'm starting from a base of probably two hours a week.

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Re: Television - the medium that everyone loves to

WMK.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:54:08 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

TV certainly has been a powerful force acting on the public since the 1950s or so - the effects have been clear for all to see.  Our mass culture is largely determined by Television entertainment, our shared frame of reference is largely shaped by whatever we learn through the television, television watching is a behavioral norm in our society and anyone who trumpets the fact that they don't watch or own a television may as well be waving their arms and hollering 'Hey everybody - I'm some kind of freak!'.

My opinion is that the TV in general discourages literacy and intellectual development because it competes with things like reading and self driven inquiry/exploration of the world which inherently require the development of literacy and some reasoning skills in order to access them.   If you spend all your time passively absorbing illiterate and irrational  brain dead pap you will not practice or develop the intellectual skills needed to solve problems and acquire new skills suitable to performing useful work in todays complex world.  I appreciate that entertainment can be a much needed 'time out' for those who are stressed from having to grapple with the exigencies of complex modernity but at least earlier forms of lowest common denominator entertainments (pulps/comics/pot boilers) had the side effect of exercising a consumers ability to read, visualize, comprehend, and maintain attentional focus in order to enjoy the 'payoff' of the activity while TV will flood you with a nearly incoherent deluge of stimulating imagery and sound that exercises and requires nothing in the viewer.

The advent of cable TV has seen diversification of broadcasting entities into specialized content distribution channels resulting in niche markets/audiences being given a wider selection of programming to choose from - provided they are prosperous enough to pay for cable.   In some cases this has resulted in greater availability of programming that informs and enlightens its audience but it seems that it has also opened the flood gates to content that seems determined to destroy the minds and corrupt the values of its audience in a poisonous downward spiral of depravity, ignorance, and trivia.  The rise of the DVR, internet media sites where TV content can be accessed,  TV content being sold in DVD sets and subsequently available through services like Netflix, and Cable + Broadcasters partnering to provide TV 'on demand' services has led to unprecedented choices/control for consumers as to what they watch, when, and if they will tolerate commercial interruptions - again this level of choice comes at a fairly substantial fee.

There have been a few wise voices who saw the potential for beneficial use of TV as a tool to educate and uplift the general audience/ to serve the common good and they have been ghettoized mostly to PBS stations.  Recent history has seen PBS and the idea of there being a 'common good' to be served by it under assault from economic fundamentalist right wingers who extrapolate their absolute dislike of taxation to support 'public' institutions and belief in free markets to mean they are obligated to defund and destroy the public broadcasting system since it represents gov't interference in a market and that is a priori BAD! The economic fundamentalists have a powerful ally against public broadcasting in the religious fundamentalist right which frequently objects to the progressive cultural content and political/intellectual/social points of view expressed in PBS programming.  To me Bill Moyers/FRONTLINE/The News Hour/Sesame Street/NOVA/Nature are shining examples of how Television can sometimes fulfill its potential to enlighten, uplift, and serve the public good (Modern Marvels on the History Channel also deserves an honorable mention IMO).

The great majority of TV may be a toxic wasteland of lowest common denominator pleasures, malevolent propaganda, and brain-rotting swill but there are some pearls to be found here and there.  New distribution technologies have made it possible to cherry pick the best of what is out there and enjoy it on your own terms.

"...when theft and high crime becomes obscenely obvious to even the blindest beer sucking idiot, it is always the Republicans who are in office." -- Joe Bageant

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Just a public service reminder...

skeeter1.

Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 05:47:26 PM EST

none

In case you didn't know (and few people do), and still have an analog VCR or DVD/R, it's not going to work either once we go digital.  If you want to keep yours running, go to https:/www.dtv2009.gov and get your DTV coupon.  $40 off on a $60 converter from RadioShack (among other places).  Net?  $20.  The digital recorders I've looked at range from $250-$600.  It's up to you, I'm just giving you a head's up.  I rarely use the VCR any more, but if I can salvage it for twenty bucks, fine by me.

there's only one way to find out...

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Bring on the mindless pap!

3fingerspointback.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 12:45:45 AM EST

none

Everyone here likes to hate on all the lowest-common-denominator programming that blights the airwaves, but I have to tell you guys:  When it comes to the break room TV at work, there's nothing better to tune to than car-accident television.  Why?  Because there's absolutely no context.  You can wander into the room in the middle of one clip, get your cup of coffee, wander out in the middle of another, and not have any sense that you missed something important.  Some of our workers and customers aren't from the US and don't speak English as a first language, but you don't need to understand anything when shown a helicopter shot of some dude trying to outrun the law in a garbage truck.  And the conversations that get started when that truck inevitably crashes are a lot more interesting than the banal, repetitive crap evoked by banal, repetitive cable news "analysts".

If I want news, I'll use the web.  If I want a compelling story, I'll stream it from the site.  But when I want background noise to mildly distract me while I eat my taco truck burrito, give me Faces of Death (PG-13 version).

(is 3fingerspointback)

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Re: Bring on the mindless pap!

port1080.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 10:05:38 PM EST

none

Yeah, I love those shows.  I have to admit that I've watched so many that I've seen the same clip on probably four or five different shows (favorites include the Colorado "tank of death" and the guy that spends about 10 minutes violently cursing at a Mass. state trooper).  What can I say, I have really bad taste.  

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Re: Bring on the mindless pap!

thefadd.

Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:08:01 AM EST

none

Looks like cops don't limit their violence to the general public. But then they do have to put up with this.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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