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The reality of El Futuro begins to seep

Steve Urkel.

Posted to Diary on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:34:41 PM EST. RSS.

into the conciousness of Californians.

California is starting to realize immigration has long term consequences - "Lack of skilled workers will lead to fiscal crisis, experts say":

With baby boomers preparing to retire as the best educated and most skilled workforce in U.S. history, a growing chorus of demographers and labor experts is raising concerns that workers in California and the nation lack the critical skills needed to replace them.

In particular, experts say, the immigrant workers needed to fill many of the boomer jobs lack the English-language skills and basic educational levels to do so...  

...the study, based largely on U.S. Census data, noted that 60% of the county's immigrant workers struggle with English and one-third lack high school diplomas.

The looming mismatch in the skills employers need and those workers offer could jeopardize the future economic vitality of California and the nation, experts say. Los Angeles County, the largest immigrant metropolis with about 3.5 million foreign-born residents, is at the forefront of this demographic trend.

"The question is, are we going to be a 21st century city with shared prosperity, or a Third World city with an elite group on top and the majority at poverty or near poverty wages?" asked Ernesto Cortes Jr....

At this point the Third World city option looks inevitable. For more on this dismal subject go here.

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Re: The reality of El Futuro begins to seep

thefadd.

Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:24:07 PM EST

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Gordon, at least uneducated immigrants can be trained...were there no immigrants no one would be filling these jobs. As an employer, would you rather hire someone and train them or simply have no one available to hire at all?

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: The reality of El Futuro begins to seep

Steve Urkel.

Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 04:06:40 PM EST

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If the influx of immigrants weren't driving people out there would be plenty of people to fill skilled positions.  

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Re: The reality of El Futuro begins to seep

thefadd.

Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 04:59:57 PM EST

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Driving who out?

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: The reality of El Futuro begins to seep

Lou.

Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 05:41:31 PM EST

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Driving who out?

Good question.  Probably driving out the people who don't want to do the shit jobs.  

I can't argue with your logic...but I can recommend a good therapist

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Re: The reality of El Futuro begins to seep

Steve Urkel.

Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 05:49:27 PM EST

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There's an abundance of people in California now able to do the shit jobs, the problem is a lack of skilled workers. Hence the headline of the linked article "Lack of skilled workers will lead to fiscal crisis".

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Re: The reality of El Futuro begins to seep

Steve Urkel.

Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 05:41:53 PM EST

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Native born people who are capable or whose children are capable of educating themselves and filling those types of jobs:

"census figures show that over the past decade, more people have left California -- emigrating to neighboring states like Nevada and Arizona and farther away, to Texas and Florida -- than have moved in from other parts of the country.

The population increase is driven primarily by births and foreign immigration. According to census statistics, from April 2000 to July 2005, California experienced a net natural increase -- taking into account births and deaths -- of 1.5 million people.

And an additional 1.4 million moved in from other countries." - The Least Affordable Place to Live? Try Salinas.

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Re: The reality of El Futuro begins to seep

thefadd.

Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 05:50:24 PM EST

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Nevada, Arizona, Texas and Florida...anecdotally, most people would guess those are the next top 4 in foreign immigration so that wouldn't seem to be the reason behind their leaving. Just a basic interpretation of your statistics belies your point.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: The reality of El Futuro begins to seep

Steve Urkel.

Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 06:00:01 PM EST

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Those places are wide open enough that middle class people can afford to live in neighborhoods where the immigrants aren't.

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Urkel Will Just Head To The Bunker.

MayorBob.

Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:33:24 PM EST

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He'll let you Californians to figure out how to deal with his vision of a California free of illegal immigrants.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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What's to be done?

Lou.

Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 07:44:56 PM EST

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Ok, the numbers are tight...the conclusions solid.  What do we do?  Where do we start to solve this problem?

I can't argue with your logic...but I can recommend a good therapist

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Re: The reality of El Futuro begins to seep

tomc.

Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 07:53:36 PM EST

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..and the Pope didn't help things either, did he?

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