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Play The Pipes Lowly.

MayorBob.

Posted to Legal on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:22:04 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

Easier said than done, according to Ian Hughes, Pipe Major of the RAF Leuchars Pipes and Drum band in Scotland.  That's mostly because bagpipes don't have a volume control.  But, the European Union (EU) and, by extension, the UK Health and Safety Executive (HSE) says it makes no matter, because something's got to be done to lower the volume of pipe bands - for the health and safety of band members.  This month marks the moment when noise regulations begin taking effect throughout the EU for workers in the music and entertainment industry.  If pipe bands don't either figure out a way of lowering the noise or marching with earplugs on, the sound of the pipe bands might be stilled forever.

Effective this month, employers in the music and entertainment sectors must now abide by existing work noise regulations.  These rules mandate that hearing protection and hearing protection zones must be in use when the noise level averages out at 85 decibels.  The problem for pipe bands is that when they're performing, they will normally peak at around 122 decibels.  The new regulations limit practice without earplugs at 15 minutes a day.  This makes practice difficult and a full performance impossible according to Hughes:

"These limits are far too low. If we have to go with these regulations, pipe bands won't exist."
The rules don't just affect pipe bands.  Rock groups and orchestras must also abide by the new regulations.  An official of the Association of British Orchestras predicts concert goers can probably expect to see musicians wearing earplugs at concerts in the future.  "Lemmy" Kilmister, from the heavy metal group Motorhead, thinks the regulations are daft: "The essence of rock'n'roll is loud music. How the hell can we be expected to enjoy ourselves if we've got to turn it down?"

Bagpipe schools are already outfitting students with earplugs but pipe majors like Hughes aren't too keen on their use when the instrument is played as part of a band.  He says a band with members playing with earplugs would be hopelessly out of tune, "earplugs take away the clarity of the sound and create a problem if you're trying to tune a band up to a certain standard."  One of the annual events which might be adversely impacted by the new regulations is the Edinburgh Military Tattoo.  This is a comparison of the decibel levels of various noises and sounds.  The HSE hasn't said what penalty might be imposed for breaking the noise regulations, only that employers "must take action."

Tags: edited by port1080, written by MayorBob, European Union, UK, bagpipes, noise, occupational safety and health (all tags)

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We were in Ketchikan, Alaska

ScotlandTheBrave.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 02:25:12 PM EST

5.00 (brilliant)

Back when I was with the Keith Highlanders, every year the city of Ketchikan would fly us up to Alaska for the Fourth of July celebration. We were treated like rock starts, but the best part for me was during the parade... There's a tunnel on the road leading into town. The pipes were 16 strong with a full collection of drums, so we were doing our requisite amount of setting off car alarms. Playing outside is not that hard on the ears, really. The sound dissipates really quickly. When we hit that tunnel, however, the drummers started hammering their instruments like blacksmiths. The sound was deafening. When we hit the other end, the whole city of Ketchikan was right at the tunnel entrance and roared as one. I promise you, there are few times in my life, including winning a division championship in college hockey, when I had so much adrenaline in my veins.

Fuck them and their regulations. I am a piper, legal or illegal. Banned tunes on banned pipes. Let 'em come.

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Re: We were in Ketchikan, Alaska

MayorBob.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 04:58:06 PM EST

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Having attended a military tattoo up in Canada a few years back I can attest to the absolute frenzie a bag and drum band can stir in a crowd.  A bagpipe figured in one of the last times I cried in public.  

My uncle was one proud Scotsman, belonging to the local Highland Society and turning out in his tartan kilt for all the Highland games.  At any rate, he passed on about a decade and a half from liver cancer.  He had lived a long and happy life and I got through the funeral service in the church alright.  As they were laying him to his final rest, the mournful sounds of one solitary piper began the most heartwrenching version of "Amazing Grace" I ever heard.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Compromise

port1080.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:38:26 AM EST

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We allow people to do dangerous jobs all the time - most industrial & construction work, no matter how "safe", is far more likely to result in injury than bag piping. We pay people in those jobs a premium based on risk. Perhaps what we need is a way to quantify the payments for risky. Work in a restaurant that allows smoking, get paid double the prevailing wage. Get paid to bagpipe, if they want you to do it without earplugs you get a 25% pay raise, or what have you. This will make businesses think twice about the externalities their business practices have on their employees, but at the same time will will also allow us to continue with practices that many people find quite valuable (like playing bagpipes, or smoking a ciggie with their morning coffee, etc).

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ear plugs are no a problem

JimmyHavok.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:02:39 AM EST

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In a noisy environment, you can actually hear better with them in, because they mask the loudest sounds.

Intelligent musicians have been wearing them for years.

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Re: ear plugs are no a problem

postillion.

Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 10:17:57 AM EST

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I think mostly rock musicians.  There's a special kind of earplugs for musicians.  

This law is nonsense, not only for bagpipe music but for all large orchestras.  Until I left college, I played in one school band and orchestra after another.  It can get tremendously loud with all the brass instruments.  

But I don't see how any orchestra with earplugs will create the same level of exactness that classical music requires.

For all the bagpipe lovers. You have to get a few minutes into the video before the bagpipe shows up.

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Re: ear plugs are no a problem

JimmyHavok.

Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 06:58:39 PM EST

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I don't see how any orchestra with earplugs will create the same level of exactness

Earplugs don't affect your rhythm.

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Re: ear plugs are no a problem

postillion.

Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 07:55:00 PM EST

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Earplugs don't affect your rhythm.

Not rhythm but everything else involved with playing an instrument within an orchestra, from different levels of loudness to softness to the exact pitch of an instrument.

Classical music has a great deal more variation in terms of what level of loudness a piece should be played at and a piece can drop from a very loud portion to a very soft level within one note.  There might not be time to take out earplugs between the loud portion to the soft portion.

Also, instruments for symphonies depend on the musician being able to hit each note in tune.  It is definitely possible to be perfectly in tune for one note and be jarringly out of tune on the next note, whether it be a woodwind, string or brass instrument.  A very slight change of the lips or a finger position can make a big difference and catching a tuning error quickly means the musician must be very attentive to the exact way his instrument sounds.  

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Re: ear plugs are no a problem

JimmyHavok.

Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 11:32:09 PM EST

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Do you have much experience wearing earplugs?  I wear them quite a bit at work, and sometimes don't even bother to take them out at lunchtime.  They don't interfere with conversation, except that your own voice sounds a little bit louder in comparison to others.  They definitely don't affect your sense of pitch.

The basic effect is to mute sounds roughly in proportion to how loud they are.  You might not be able to hear a soft whisper, but otherwise you hear what you would otherwise hear.  In a loud environment, you hear more, because the masking effect of the loud sounds is reduced.

Given the importance of hearing to a musician, I think it's foolish not to wear earplugs when you are exposed to sounds above about 100 db, whether they are musical or not.  There are hi-fi earplugs available that give only 12db of attenuation.  That's enough to bring a potentially damaging volume down to one that is pleasantly loud.

I've suffered quite a bit of hearing damage, and so I tend to be a lot more careful about my ears than many people.  You can live and learn, or you can listen and learn.

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Re: ear plugs are no a problem

skeeter1.

Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 08:00:12 PM EST

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"Do you have much experience wearing earplugs? "

Quite a lot, myself.  When you're a target shooter with half a brain, you learn to use them all the time.  

I've tried both passive and active earplugs, but the were rather uncomfortable.  Then I went with passive earmuffs.  Those were OK.  Now, I'm using electronic earmuffs.  You can hear fine (or even better than normal) at lower levels, but they clamp down at 85db, as much as 27db.  They do require AA batteries, but they last ~200hrs, and I've got at least a dozen (maybe 2) rechargeable NiMH batteries here.  Twenty bucks -- cheap insurance.

there's only one way to find out...

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Re: ear plugs are no a problem

postillion.

Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 08:13:30 PM EST

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I understand that the intent of this law is good.  However, music is actually a very physical activity and it is not uncommon for musicians to damage certain portions of their body during a long career.

When I was in college, one of my friends ended up damaging the ligaments in his hands.  His intent had been to try and become a concert pianist.  In the end, he had to settle for playing the harpsichord which does the stretch the fingers as much.  I also used to have my right hand in an ace bandage for several years because the weight of my instrument was resting on the thumb of my right hand.  It wasn't too bad when playing for a brief period, but after two hour practise sessions, my whole right hand to midway up the lower arm would be burning.

I don't play any more because I just don't have the time to practise daily (it's amazing how quickly such skills can just disappear if not done daily) but for those who do become musicians by profession, they are aware of what they are putting their bodies through, whether it be the risk of deafness or tearing up certain muscles and ligaments.

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Re: ear plugs are no a problem

JimmyHavok.

Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 11:39:44 PM EST

4.00 (funny)

I'm in the same boat.  I injured the nerve through my elbow (cubital tunnel syndrome) playing ukulele, because you cock your elbow more than is safe when playing.  Now, I can play guitar as long as I like, but when I stop, it feels like someone has been beating on my forearm with a baseball bat, and it lasts for weeks.  THe worst thing about it was that I felt like I was finally starting to "get" the guitar.

I shifted to slide guitar.  I like it, but I can't play as casually because there's quite a bit of setup involved, and I always end up in a fight with my girlfriend over volume levels, even from a tiny 9-volt amp.  God help me if I try to play through my 15-watt amp when she's in the apartment.

Then she says,"No, I love it when you play."

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Also..

MC Nally.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 01:32:31 PM EST

none

Also, in the future EU pressings of David Bowie's "The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars" album will be printed without the "To be played at maximum volume," instruction..

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Wake up

Steve Urkel.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 01:54:35 PM EST

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It's not just that this regulation,  like so many EU regulations, is stupid, it's that it's being imposed by an unaccountable  bureaucracy. When are people going to say enough? Wake up Scotland. Use your pipes to rally the people, and we'll descend on Brussels and burn the EU HQ to the ground.

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Besides, Bag Pipes Are Awesomeness

thefadd.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 01:58:05 PM EST

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Seriously. Full agreement with you on this one. How can you have one work place safety law for all workplaces?

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: Besides, Bag Pipes Are Awesomeness

Steve Urkel.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 02:06:41 PM EST

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It's easy, because it has nothing to do with actual workplaces, or the needs of actual workers.

Has there ever been any scientific study of why bagpipes inspire people to fight?

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Re: Play The Pipes Lowly.

Petronius.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 02:02:44 PM EST

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A friend of mine who played drums in a pipe band once defined a Scottish gentleman as one who knew how to play the pipes, but didn't.

I once heard a mass of 30 pipe bands playing in unison, in a large park in Chicago. It is a uniquely stirring event.

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Oh, fuck it

skeeter1.

Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 01:20:42 PM EST

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"I once heard a mass of 30 pipe bands playing in unison, in a large park in Chicago. It is a uniquely stirring event."

That sounds like great fun!  Last time I went to a Gaelic festival, they had a band there with a dozen pipers and a half-dozen drummers.  It was WONDERFUL!  Could have used even more pipers, AFAIC.  

I've done lots of bad things to my ears over the years -- playing in a rock band with my little 240-watt amp, hunting with a 12-gauge-double without hearing protection, riding a few motorcycles with open pipes, chemotherapy (that damages your hearing, too), etc.  I'm a little more careful now, but I want the bagpipes to be LOUD!!

there's only one way to find out...

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Re: Play The Pipes Lowly.

ScotlandTheBrave.

Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 01:46:35 PM EST

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You think THAT was cool, go to an Highland Games where there's piping competition, and be there by noon for the opening ceremonies. They do what's called Massed Bands. All the competing bands play a few standards together. IN the bigger games, we're talking  300-400 pipers.

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Re: Play The Pipes Lowly.

postillion.

Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 08:14:26 PM EST

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he had to settle for playing the harpsichord which does the stretch the fingers as much.

oops...which does not stretch the fingers as much.

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