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Lou.

Posted to Diary on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 10:02:05 PM EST. RSS.

Why do they think the world is their ashtray?

Springtime in New England...it can be a magical time.  Finally, the snow is gone and the tender young buds make their grand appearance.

Other things make their appearance when the snow melts as well.

Whilst making a left hand turn what should I see on the corner where the snow used to be?  A thick carpet of cigarette butts.  Delicious!

Walking up to convenience store to get some milk, what do I behold?  A citizen smoker emptying her car's ashtray into the parking lot.  Perhaps it was an art installation?

And finally, while enjoying a lunch date with my sweetie, what should I spy right outside but a smoker - standing 5 feet away from one of those convenient butt containers - flicks his cigarette into the newly laid mulch...which then promptly catches fire.  A waiter and I join forces to extinguish the flames with pitchers of water.

Look, on a personal level, I could give a sweet fuck what people do to their bodies.  You want to smoke?  Great...smoke so much the ghost of Jesse Helms appears in your pack of Camels.

I apologize to those smokers who exhibit courtesy.  I hesitate to paint with such a large brush, but damn!  There is some much of that tobaccoy crap laying around...

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Lou.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:58:26 AM EST

5.00 (interesting)

I have to agree with the Mayor...we do a pretty good job of shaming smokers.  However, I would suggest that smokers have no shame.  Please refer to the young lass dumping her butts in the parking lot.

No amount of finger pointing is going to help.

It's time to move up to firearms.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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This is the only good thing to come out of smoking

pO157.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:48:23 AM EST

5.00

Ever. Your comment below made me think of this anecdote.

And finally, while enjoying a lunch date with my sweetie, what should I spy right outside but a smoker - standing 5 feet away from one of those convenient butt containers - flicks his cigarette into the newly laid mulch...which then promptly catches fire.  A waiter and I join forces to extinguish the flames with pitchers of water.

Last year I was walking to work on an amazingly hot saturday. As I walked past an apartment building I noticed some careless retard had dumped a flaming butt (great band name?) into a mulch garden and it had started to smolder. Some concerned citizen promptly called 911 and within minutes the intrepid heroes of the city fire department roared onto the scene with their massive pumper truck.

Upon arrival the fireperson in charge noticed a crowd forming, including small children, and that the fire was extremely small. So, he went up to some random 8 year old kids and said "Hey! You want to help us put the fire out?" He then pulled the garbage line off the truck and allowed the kids to help hold it while he turned it on and together they all sprayed the fire down.

The parents took pictures, the kids were beaming, and everybody was laughing and having a gay old time. All was right with the world... until the union filed a Grievance against the fire department for allowing untrained civilians to assist in rescue operations.

Actually, the last part about the union didn't happen. But I just thought it was cool the firemen would go out of their way to make the day of a bunch of little kids so I thought I would try to move this thread from an angry bitchfest to a happy feelgoodery.

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Habits

Steve Urkel.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 01:15:04 PM EST

5.00 (interesting)

The easiest way to reduce cigarette butt litter would be to repeal smoking bans and allow smokers to smoke indoors again, where there are ashtrays. Personally, as a smoker, while I still avoid littering when I can, given the exorbitant taxes I pay as well as being forced to smoke outside I really have a hard time being concientious about not flinging butts on the ground anymore, and mostly am out of habit.

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zyxwvutsr.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 01:20:20 PM EST

4.50 (funny, funny)

...I really have a hard time being concientious about not flinging butts on the ground anymore...
Littering is for squares.

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Steve Urkel.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 01:34:49 PM EST

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That was kind of funny. How come I can remember my Plastic comments but not my TnT ones?

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pO157.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 02:14:22 PM EST

5.00 (funny)

That was kind of funny. How come I can remember my Plastic comments but not my TnT ones?

Because every time somebody brings up a comment you made on TnT you end up asking in a whiny voice:

"Did I do thaaaaaat?"

<rimshot!> Thanks, I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waiters!

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Yep

keta.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 03:43:25 PM EST

5.00 (brilliant, brilliant, brilliant)

No need to apologize, Lou.  I'm a smoker, and smokers who toss their butts on the ground piss me off, too.  

I once watched a guy empty his car ashtray while waiting for a light.  From the sidewalk I asked him, "Where do live?"  "Why?" he asked.  "Because I want to come to your neighbourhood and dump shit all over the streets there," I replied.  Damn if he didn't start picking his mess up...

Perhaps if these people had a dustpan full of their filth dropped onto their desk once or twice they might get the message.  I know the douche bag uppity dog owner who drove up to my local park one day while I was sitting on a bench, got out of her car, watched as Muffy took a big doggy dump, looked imperiously down her nose at me as I explained it was law to clean up after your pet, and returned to her car with Muffy without deigning to say a word to me, I know she got the message when I grabbed Muffy's feces with a plastic bag and smeared it on her windshield.

The best part was her impotent rage as, swearing like a sailor, she proposed calling the police.  I even offered her the use of my cell phone...

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pO157.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 04:08:24 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

You, Sir, are my Hero of the Day. Your shining example is a model to all.

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joshv.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:58:51 AM EST

4.50 (interesting, astute)

I must constantly fight the urge to politely inform smokers "look there bud, you dropped something".  Finally in America we've reached the point where most responsible citizens find it unthinkable to just drop their litter on the street, and yet those who would never dream of throwing their empty Starbucks venti coffee cup out of the window of their car, don't think twice about flicking a lit butt out of their windows.

Perhaps it's because a cigarette butt is so small?  Perhaps it's because, when lit, they are relatively difficult to dispose of - you can't just take your last draw and then stick them into the closest garbage bin.  But frankly I don't really care.  It's their nasty habit, they should deal with the refuse, however inconvenient it is to dispose of.

Perhaps if we non-smokers embarked on a concerted shaming campaign?  Whenever you see somebody do this, treat them like you would a 4 year old that hasn't yet learned that you don't just drop your twinky wrapper in the middle of the sidewalk.

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Society is doing that for you already.

MayorBob.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:32:02 AM EST

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"Perhaps if we non-smokers embarked on a concerted shaming campaign? "

I guess you don't call constant reminders that smoking within 20 feet of other carbon-based lifeforms makes you the equivalent of Ted Bundy enough of a shaming campaign.  I'm guessing you don't consider banning smoking anywhere indoors or even in outdoor parks or forcing smokers to huddle no closer than 20 feet to a door to be a shaming technique.  I'm also guessing that forcing smokers to pay three time what the cost of their lawful product is in the form of state tobacco taxes doesn't single them out as a convenient target of the state.

Having said that, I quite agree that anyone who takes their personal trash and deposits it anywhere other than conveniently placed receptacles is a lazy, pig who deserves to be called on their littering.  But, I don't call that "concerted shaming" because there are laws against doing what they're doing.  And I've got a feeling that, even if they kicked the habit cold turkey or never lit up a cigarette in their life, the people you see tossing their butts everywhere they please wouldn't have a problem tossing the rest of their garbage anywhere else they please.

Full disclosure time here -- I am an ex-smoker who kicked his two-pack-a-day habit cold turkey 13 years ago.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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pO157.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:37:55 AM EST

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I, for one, am sick and tired of cleaning up people's cigarette butts up off my lawn. Unfortunately my house being next to a bus stop does not help because many people see the need to chain smoke to their hearts content while waiting and then fling their nasty tobacco stubs for distance in some kind of low pulmonary function Olympics.

My state also has a new program where people get free nicotine patches, individual smoking cessation counseling, and a whole host of subsidized bennies from our tax dollars by calling some 800 number and saying they want to quit. That is all well and good, and I agree with the logic that it is better to fix the problem now than pay for them to die slowly and painfully while languishing on Medicaid sucking all of our precious tax dollars down their new tracheotomy hole, but why can't we just eliminate benefits altogether?  No more paying for cigarette caused illnesses later on or nicotine patches now. Since Medicaid will be slashed we can reduce or repeal the tobacco and alcohol tax. Everybody would then have the right to exercise their personal responsibility and accept the consequences thereof. It's win-win-win! I would even promise to stop complaining about smokers (as long as they kept their Butts off My Lawn).

That said, I disagree with the government mandated "no smoking in restaurant and bars" law on principle, I think property owners should be allowed to do what they want (within reason) on private grounds. That said, I enjoy restaurants that no longer smell like nasty gym socks and probably go out more since the smoking bans got put in.

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delete me.

Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 12:25:06 AM EST

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When I moved to New England in 2002, I thought fireflies were mating on the free^H^H^H^H tollways or something. So many pretty sparks flying about.

Then I realised I was looking at the lit cherries of the butts they were tossing. Yeesh. I've never seen a sight like that before; I usually live further west where fires during dry seasons are a problem.

- derumi (del-me)
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