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Cheese!

skeeter1.

Posted to Etcetera on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 06:20:15 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

Quite possibly the finest food that mankind ever conjured up.  For cheese was one way of preserving milk, along with yogurt.

Today, we have oodles to chose from...  Swiss, Cheddar, Bleu, Feta, Parmagiano Reggiano, Smoked  cheeses, and the list goes on.

Even crappy old American cheese works fairly well on a cheeseburger.  It's not really cheese, but "processed cheese-food product".  Non-food, I suppose.

What's your cheese poison?  

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by skeeter1, food, cheese, dairy (all tags)

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ivyafire.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:44:09 PM EST

5.00 (funny, brilliant, brilliant)

Just once before I die, I want to eat at skeeter's house.

"It was an ancient rule of Hawaiians that no one should hurt another bodily, or through theft of goods or through injury to feelings.These were the only sins."

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Two words

Lou.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 03:34:02 PM EST

none

Road Trip

WWGE: Who Would Gordon Enslave?

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rEvolution inAction.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 03:57:54 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

Cottage? Swiss? Cheddar? Parmesan? Mozzarella? Ricotta?

WTF?!!?!

Where's the Brie, Camembert, Goat, Blue, Havarti,? Where are the good cheeses? You might as well have put Velveeta, Cheeze Whiz, and Kraft Singles up there...

good call on the smoked.. but you missed out on Smoked Gouda.. and why lump Gouda in with Feta when it's much more similar to Swiss/gruierre/emantaller?

Whatever... strange to see a cheese story from someone with such poor taste in cheese.

Tipping Sacred Cows

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skeeter1.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 04:55:26 PM EST

none

"Where's the Brie, Camembert, Goat, Blue, Havarti,? Where are the good cheeses? You might as well have put Velveeta, Cheeze Whiz, and Kraft Singles up there..."

The list is only so long, and there are so many.  Add Stilton and Roquefort to the list, too.

I will defend Velveeta -- not really cheese, but another American "processed cheese-food product".  It's pretty good in taco filling, however.  Try it sometime.  Not half bad.  I do agree that Cheese-whiz and Kraft-singles suck.  

I made the mistake of buying some Easy Cheese.  Never again.  Even on good crackers, that stuff was pure shit.

there's only one way to find out...

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rEvolution inAction.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 05:32:41 PM EST

none

Cheese in a can? I'm scared.. hold me!

as for the processed cheeses... velveeta is made for melting.. and Kraft singles is the only cheese for grilled cheese.

on another note (kinda): Tostito's Cheese Dip.. mmmmmm (i think its plastic.. but its good!)

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ms sue.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 05:01:25 PM EST

none

I used to be a cheese snob like you. But then I discovered that you can't beat a grilled cheese sandwich made with American cheese.

Oh, and as for smoked cheese, I can take maybe one or two bites of that stuff.

Brie is my downfall -- love it to death. Oh, and Cambozola, too.

The worst cheese -- Bonbel or Babybel or whatever the hell that tasteless stuff is called.

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rEvolution inAction.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 05:30:01 PM EST

none

for sure grilled cheese needs a different type of cheese but that doesn't mean that it's any better... good cheese jsut doesn't lend itself well to being melted.

I'll be a cheese snob till the end of my days, mainly because of Brie (with Camembert as a close second followed by Feta)...

along with smoked gouda, I also love Jalapeno Havarti... even if I wouldn't consider it really a fine cheese.

Tipping Sacred Cows

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ivyafire.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 06:12:07 PM EST

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The worst cheese -- Bonbel or Babybel or whatever the hell that tasteless stuff is called.  

To me, the worst has to be limberger.    Ugh.  I'm not much of a practical joker, but one day in the grocery store I held out a package of limberger and told my kids (8 and 9 at the time) to smell it.

They are still trying to pay me back for that one, and every time I think about the looks on their faces, I laugh like a maniac.  

 I need help.

"It was an ancient rule of Hawaiians that no one should hurt another bodily, or through theft of goods or through injury to feelings.These were the only sins."

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MC Nally.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 06:46:08 PM EST

none

The worst cheese -- Bonbel or Babybel or whatever the hell that tasteless stuff is called.
There's a reason the cow on the package is laughing at you.

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thefadd.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 05:27:22 PM EST

none

Monterrey Jack continues to get no love!

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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rEvolution inAction.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 07:46:00 PM EST

none

and it shouldn't...

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thefadd.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 08:23:29 PM EST

none

A white business man is walking through the "wrong" part of town one day when he finds a big wheel of cheese and decides to keep it. As he's leaving, a kid comes running down the street shouting, "that's not your cheese! hey, that's not your cheese!" The man comes home and, very pleased with himself, gives the cheese to his wife exclaiming, "Nachos tonight, honey!" "Why's that sweetie," she asks. "That's nacho cheese," he replies proudly.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Greetings from Wisconsin

3fingerspointback.

Wed May 07, 2008 at 03:47:53 PM EST

5.00 (informative, informative)

I've been staying at my parents for a bit, just up the road from Brennan's, so I've gotten to nosh on a few samples of the best of what the local places have to offer.  One can't just ask for the best cheese, you also need to know how you're going to use it.  If we stay with local producers, then I've found that my favorites are smoked swiss for straight snacking, chevre for putting on a cracker, pepper jack for melting in a grilled cheese sandwich, havarti dill in a sandwich with only veggies, and gouda if you're making it with meat.

Postillion also mentioned cheese curds upthread.  They're also good for snacking, but I find they tend to be too greasy to hold, until they get too dry.  They are popular for occasions when one needs to eat cheese using toothpicks.  And they can indeed squeak a little when you eat them.

(is 3fingerspointback)

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postillion.

Wed May 07, 2008 at 10:08:37 PM EST

none

Thanks very much for the downlow on the cheese curds.

Reading your post is making me very hungry.  

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tomc.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 11:26:58 PM EST

2.50

I like any kind of cheese that smells like pussy.

Oh, wait, that's not cheese.

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tomc.

Thu May 01, 2008 at 06:02:56 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

Ok, what did I misspell?  Where was I ungrammatical?

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ms sue.

Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:03:02 AM EST

5.00 (astute)

Oh, no. Your spelling and grammar were impeccable.

It's just that none of the negative labels quite captured my opinion of this post in this thread.

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tomc.

Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:27:33 PM EST

4.00 (funny)

Your spelling and grammar were impeccable.

Well, that's a relief.

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ckm.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 11:12:51 AM EST

none

Epoisse - http://www.911cheferic.com/main/newsletter/Article_template.asp?id=60&seq=1
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89poisses_de_Bourgogne_%28cheese%29
Vacherin - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacherin_(cheese)
Reblochon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reblochon
Any fresh goat cheese
Dutch cheese - oud belegen (not gouda)

I like smelly (generally French) cheeses.   Those first three are among my favorites.   I'm also a fool for fresh goat cheese (note, I've never seen this for sale in the US...).   I've been known to spend upwards of $100 at a time on cheese.  However, on a daily basis, I would rather have good Dutch cheese (which is pretty much impossible to get in the US, although a pretty good facsimile is made in California) or sharp cheddar.

BTW, from the  Wikipedia Epoisse article:

"Its odor is so strong that reportedly it has been banned from French public transport."

Awesome!  It will definitely will stink up your fridge forever if you don't put it in something air tight (zip lock, tupperware, etc.).

Chris.

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postillion.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 11:00:05 PM EST

none

I haven't had the opportunity to eat the famed unpasteurized cheeses of France.  However, I do love explorateur, which can be bought at American gourmet shops.

For cheddar, I am a huge fan of Irish cheddar.

I really hope to eat fresh cheese curds one day.  Supposedly they squeak.  

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snidleywhiplash.

Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:00:32 AM EST

none

I just finished my first Epoisse round. It was fantastic, both by itself and melted a bit over roast chicken with grainy mustard on good bread. It was sent to me as a present - the delivery guy marveled at the aroma and suggested whatever was in the package might be off. The packing materials suggested this was a common reaction among delivery folks. Made me happy every time I opened the fridge.

For fresh goat cheese - have you tried making your own? It's simple and can be great, provided you can get good goat milk. I've had very good luck with it. Skeeter includes some cheese supply links and I've used some of the chevre starter from New England Cheesemaking Supply

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postillion.

Thu May 01, 2008 at 09:43:51 AM EST

none

Is it possible to get Epoisse in the U.S.?  I thought unpasteurized cheese wasn't allowed in the U.S.

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port1080.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 12:16:16 PM EST

none

I like almost all cheeses, but I guess my gauche tastes shine through a little in that my favorites are American cheeses - a good sharp New York cheddar and Muenster definitely top my list.

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Re: Cheese!

skeeter1.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:22:19 PM EST

none

If you're so inclined to try, I've made my own cheese.  I got my supplies here,

http://www.leeners.com/

and fresh cows milk from the store that sells Amish-farmed whole milk  (no skim-milk for me).  I never got very good at it, but it was kind of fun.  One in four (mostly the cheddar) turned out pretty good.  The rest were edible, but not all that great.  

A Cheese press http://www.thecheesemaker.com/presses.htm (I got the little plastic one) is essential.  You can probably buy cheese cloth just about anywhere.

Rennet, annoto oil (for color), and a starter culture (also available from thecheesemaker.com), and a good dial thermometer (you don't want to scorch the milk), and you're all set.  

I've made my own beer and mead many times, too.  I've also made moonshine a couple of times (I have a small still, but don't tell the cops).  That wasn't so great, but I should have gotten charred-oak barrel from Lehmans and let it sit for a couple of years.  

Winemaking is fun, too.  I did that when my parents had some grapevines in their garden.  It was lousy until it sat for a couple of years.  Beer and cheese are ready in a couple of weeks.

I'm big on experimenting in the kitchen (retired microbiologist), what can I tell you?

there's only one way to find out...

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Venezuelan Beaver Cheese

Lou.

Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 03:29:01 PM EST

none

We really don't have a good cheese shop around here.

WWGE: Who Would Gordon Enslave?

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I must confee

wetkarma.

Thu May 01, 2008 at 07:07:56 AM EST

none

I'm a cheese snob and like rev am appalled at the list. Sue does have a point however - a grilled cheese sandwich with american kraft cheddar is sublime comfort/summer food.

Hands down however my favorite cheese is La Tur - you can get it from Murrayscheese.com if you are inclined to try (or are in New York). How to describe la tur? Its like a creamy spread that becomes gooey once you start slicing into it, as a result you usually consume all the La Tur fairly quickly. Because its so easily gooey it usually comes packaged in a cupcake like paper wrapper.

Fantastic on ritz crackers, excellent on warm french bread. La Tur is awesome.

Memory is a strange bell, jubilee and knell.

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