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How Do You Drive?

thefadd.

Posted to Diary on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 12:43:06 PM EST. RSS.

You've likely seen this latest "health fun fact" circulating the internet:

Motorists who talk on cell phones are more impaired than drunk drivers with blood-alcohol levels exceeding .08.

Whether or not it's true, it makes for an interesting point of comparison. While I don't condone it, I do know anecdotally that many more people drive drunk here in Los Angeles over New York because in NYC they could just hop on public transit. I used to talk on the phone while I drove but have since given that up. I know some people who crank up the tunes and rock out or space out. Now when I drive, though, that's all I do. Of course I'm doing less of it now that gas prices have hit $4. How do you drive? Who among your fellow drivers are you most afraid of?

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My Preferred Driving Experience

keta.

Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 02:40:32 PM EST

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Top down, heater full fart, a roadie cup full of the Captain and ruby grapefruit, cigarette in the ashtray, bomber at my lips, The Beauty of Wynona cranked to eleven on the stereo, with the sun just barely breaking the visible horizon, and a river full of steelhead ten minutes away.

That's in the winter.  In the summer I drive like a crazy man.

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I carry a cell phone with me in the car.

MayorBob.

Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 01:15:23 PM EST

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And I use the car a whole bunch.  But I never, ever conduct a cell phone conversation while I'm still rolling.  If I have to absolutely make that phone call on the cellular, it's over to the side of the road or onto a parking lot where I'll park it and conduct the call.  

I have yet to receive a single cell phone call that absolutely required me to answer it right then and there.  When I get to where I'm going, I'll check for missed calls but I fail to see the need to respond to requests to stop by the store on the way home or deal with a troublesome client while I'm rolling down the interstate at 70mph plus.

A friend of mine got hit going through an intersection by someone running a red light whilst yakking on a cell phone.  Luckily enough, he wasn't injured although the right front side of his car was really dinged up.  He gets out of his car and walks over the woman still yakking away on her cell phone.  He taps on her window a couple of times wanting to know if she's all right and was she calling the cops.  Finally, she lowered her window and said to him "do you mind, I'm talking here?"

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: I carry a cell phone with me in the car.

pO157.

Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 02:38:52 PM EST

none

I seldom drive around town so most of my road time is on the highway. That being said, there is only one road I have been on in my entire life that I would ever ever EVER utilize a cellular telephone on. That is because you can see everything for 150 miles away and the amount of cars in that picture is a busy day.

Since I am almost 3,000 miles away from there I never use the cell phone while driving. People who use cell phones on the road should be sent to a labor camp. It aggravates me to no end when one of my in-laws decides she has to drive and I am in the car. I have almost crapped my pants on several occasions with her driving. To wit, she was driving along a highway in the right lane and proceeded to accelerate in order to box out another vehicle attempting to enter from an on-ramp at a reasonable speed. Why? Because she didn't want a car ahead of her. The fact that there were TWO empty lanes to the left of us and it was a completely open road on a clear day meant nothing. Oh, and she is often on her cell phone calling people. I would not let any children I am responsible for ride in the car of people like that.

Back in the 90s my dad was rear ended at a stop light on a highway by some jackass of a woman who was too busy gabbing to think about applying her brakes. His back still acts up to this day and her insurance never covered everything. Of course, he was the nice guy and went along with her request to the court to have her tickets reduced because Allah forbid some stupid dumbass who thinks its okay to drive around in a 5 ton weapon of mass destruction while talking on a cell phone needs her insurance to go up. I would have gone to court and not only asked the judge to give her the maximum penalty but signed complaints for reckless driving. But I'm not as nice as him.

Because I currently have the floor, here are other things that I believe should result in your car being (at a minimum) cubed:
-Parking in a fire zone (this used to tick me off to no end as an EMT, and now that I live in the 'hood you will have people who leave their car in the fire zone not just to let bloated 400lb Aunt LaVerne off close to the electronic carts but who actually leave their cars in the fire zone while they go inside the store for like 2 hours).
-Parking in a handicapped zone
-Parking in the last handicapped zone with a stolen permit and then loudly joking with passerby about how great your spot is while elderly gentleman with disabled vet stickers parks further back in the lot*
-Passing stopped cars on the right or utilizing the sidewalk to enable blasting through a red light at 90 miles an hour
-Driving on the wrong side of the road in a no passing zone on a busy street because there is a backup in traffic
-Walking out into traffic or walking down the middle of a busy street bouncing a basketball, riding a skateboard, or otherwise being an idiot when you are old enough to know better.

*Enhanced Penalty Offense. I'm willing to consider an aluminum baseball bat to the kneecaps.

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Re: How Do You Drive?

delete me.

Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 12:52:08 PM EST

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This is why I'm totally against hands-free devices in cars. At least if someone's holding a phone, you can usually see that they're impaired. If having both hands on the steering wheel mattered, then driving with stick-shifts should be banned.

Life on the road has gotten much easier once I started treating all mobile phone users that I've identified as a drunk driver.

- derumi (del-me)
"Bobby Fischer? Man, that guy is crazy!" - Mike Tyson

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I drive like an old man with his pants too high

JimmyHavok.

Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:02:59 PM EST

none

I talk on my phone while driving all the time.  It's no big deal.  However, I have seen a lot of cases of people who can't talk and drive at the same time, and, for example, if I am approaching an intersection and see a cell phone in the hands of a driver in the left turn lane, I will slow down far enough that I can stop safely if he does something stupid.

I do realize that my abilities are divided when I'm on the phone, so I'll slow down if I'm in a high-traffic area, and if I happen to be doing something complicated, like pulling into traffic or parking, I'll say so fairly curtly and put the phone down, sometimes on the floor.

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I sin...

port1080.

Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:04:27 PM EST

none

I'll admit to driving while talking on a cell phone. I only do it when traffic is light, however, and generally only for brief calls (i.e. "I'm on my way home, should I stop for groceries?" kind of calls). I'm also extremely defensive when I'm on the phone - if it's a two lane highway I get in the right lane and drive the speed limit. I think that probably the best way to approach cell phone laws is to make it an additional penalty if you do something wrong (i.e. run a red light while talking on a cell phone - ticket amount should be doubled), but not to be pulling people over just for talking on the cell phone. Then again, I feel the same way about drunk driving laws, so perhaps I'm in the minority.

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Re: I sin...

pO157.

Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 02:38:23 PM EST

none

I think that probably the best way to approach cell phone laws is to make it an additional penalty if you do something wrong (i.e. run a red light while talking on a cell phone - ticket amount should be doubled),
but not to be pulling people over just for talking on the cell phone. Then again, I feel the same way about drunk driving laws, so perhaps I'm in the minority.

I can get behind this, I guess. I'd like to see BAC limits pushed to 0.12 or whatever they were when I was a kid where you had to be blitzed to get a DUI, not now where they throw people into a supermax prison for blowing an 0.081 or whatever. However, I think the number of laws the cops should be allowed to pull you over for violating (broken taillight, suspicion of bad equipment, whatever) should be reduced. That way if somebody is driving like an asshole they can still pile the charges on, but no more pulling over some minorities just because "one headlight looks smaller than the other" and then pressuring them into searching the car. And while we're at it, get rid of those stupid MADD roadblocks. I also reserve the right to continue to complain about cell phone drivers and people who park illegally in fire zones.

In other news, I was bored and watching that show "Jail" last night. The cops picked up some drunk chick for public drunkenness/open container and they tried to get her to take a breathalyzer as part of booking (We're not going to use it in court or anything, we just need to know how much you drank! Suuuure). She started going off about how she would want her attorney present and she refused the test. They treated her like she was some kind of Manson Family killer, especially when she refused to give anything other than her name, address, etc and repeatedly invoke her right to remain silent. It was the first time in my life I ever rooted for a belligerently drunk trailer park chick before.

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Re: I sin...

ms sue.

Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 03:50:42 PM EST

none

I don't think the BAC levels should be reduced to what they were; I don't want to see a reduction in the number of laws allowed for stopping drivers; I am in favor of DUI checks; and without having seen just how the officers treated this particular publicly intoxicated woman, I might have treated her similarly.

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Clarification

pO157.

Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 04:10:25 PM EST

none

The woman in the show was supposedly arrested for drunk in public, eg not driving, just walking around trashed or maybe getting tossed out of a bar. I forget. Anyway, I assume if she did something more serious (eg assault) she would have been charged with that instead.

That said, I think the cops in the jail giving her an attitude for asserting her rights against self incrimination (being asked to take a breathalyzer when not arrested for operating a vehicle) and demanding a lawyer (even repeatedly in an annoying way) is a bad thing.

Back on point, my argument for raising the BAC threshhold has to do with most of the severe accidents you hear about coming from folks with absurdly high levels of booze in their blood. In addition, the current methods of detecting if somebody is over the limit (field tests, which I would refuse if completely sober, and breathalyzers) are wildly inaccurate and I believe one of the best ways to protect against wrongful conviction would be to simply raise the limit.

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Re: Clarification

ms sue.

Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 05:21:16 PM EST

none

The woman in the show was supposedly arrested for drunk in public, eg not driving, just walking around trashed or maybe getting tossed out of a bar.

I had understood that.

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Re: Clarification

pO157.

Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 07:48:34 PM EST

none

Oh okay. Cool. Sometimes I'm not clear when I write. Just wanted to make sure that wasn't the case.

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