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End of an Era? Ted Kennedy Diagnosed With Malignant Tumor [Breaking News]

port1080.

Posted to Politics on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:18:09 PM EST (promoted by 1fastdog). RSS.

The AP is reporting that Senator Edward "Ted" Kennedy (D. Mass.), who was recently hospitalized after suffering a seizure, has a malignant brain tumor.

Kennedy, the second longest serving Senator after Robert Byrd, is the younger brother of former (assassinated in office) US President John F. Kennedy, as well as for US Attorney General (and presidential candidate, assassinated while campaigning) Robert Kennedy.  He himself ran for President in 1980, although he fell short in his bid to dislodge incumbent Jimmy Carter from receiving the nomination.

Kennedy's legacy has been mixed - although a staunch supporter of liberal causes and a powerful Senator, he never reached the heights of national acclaim that his two older brothers achieved.  A large portion of the tarnish on his legacy comes from the 1969 Chappiquiddick incident, when Kennedy attempted to cover up a car accident in which he was at fault which caused the death of one of his campaign workers, Mary Jo Kopechne.

If this illness does lead to Kennedy's exit from politics, does it mark the end of an era?  Kennedy has long been one of the last champions of old style, "Great Society" type liberal social programs, even as the Democratic party as a whole moved to the right during the last few decades.  Of course, even if Teddy leaves the stage, his legacy may remain - his son (who has had some driving related legal problems of his own...) currently represents the First District of Rhode Island in the US Congress.

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Nobody deserves this...

port1080.

Tue May 20, 2008 at 05:56:48 PM EST

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Say what you will about Kennedy, a brain tumor is an awful way to go, right up there with Alzheimer's. My maternal grandfather and grandmother both died of gliomas (something that is statistically incredibly unlikely, since they're relatively rare and not caused by any known environmental factors) and in each case they lasted about a year and a half after diagnosis. Both had surgery, chemo, radiation, etc. and both had the tumor come right back. For the last two or three months you pretty much lose all cognitive and motor functions and are essentially a vegetable - but before that you get to experience the joy of realizing that your mind is slowly eating itself as you lose the ability to do certain things, lose memories, become increasingly confused, etc. etc. It's about as ugly as it gets.

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ms sue.

Tue May 20, 2008 at 07:17:45 PM EST

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<i<Nobody deserves this...Say what you will about Kennedy...</i>

I have generally good things to say about him. He served this country well.

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ms sue.

Tue May 20, 2008 at 07:19:28 PM EST

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Nobody deserves this...Say what you will about Kennedy...

I have generally good things to say about him. He served this country well.

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ms sue.

Wed May 21, 2008 at 10:06:50 AM EST

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We have to stop meeting like this, ms sue.

Tim Rutten put my feelings into words better than I could hope to do:

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-rutten21-2008may21,1,3260766.column

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Steve Urkel.

Wed May 21, 2008 at 01:42:12 PM EST

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"soon will exit the institution he has bestrode like a colossus for nearly 50 years"

"He is a rich, wonderfully connected Boston Irishman, and yet his life's labors have been on behalf of blacks and women and Latinos, for people who sweated for a minimum wage and couldn't pay their sick child's doctor's bill and asked for nothing more than a public school good enough to give their child a fair foothold on the ladder's next rung. Their slights and injuries were his own."

"Kennedy also stood for a second quality that is fading: the belief that after the accumulation of wealth came an ambition -- indeed, an obligation -- for public service."

Reading these remarks makes me reconsider what I said about Teddy - I wish it had been worse.  

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Lou.

Wed May 21, 2008 at 02:48:52 PM EST

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For today, you sir, are a dick.

Oh yeah...get your dog some counseling.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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T Slothrop.

Wed May 21, 2008 at 01:55:11 PM EST

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Jesus, Gordo.

I'm on your side of the fence more times than not, but damn. Did Ted personally rape your favorite dog or something? Are you related to Mary Jo Kopechne?

{Insert amusing quotation here}

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gerrymander.

Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:05:25 PM EST

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I generally have nothing good to say about the man, but there's a vast gulf between political opposition and wishing ill upon a person. My prayers go out to Sen. Kennedy and his family.

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T Slothrop.

Wed May 21, 2008 at 10:29:56 AM EST

5.00 (interesting, astute)

I generally have nothing good to say about the man's politics, either. And he is/was unquestionably beset with personal demons which served to mar his career with a sort of constant background of whispers even when they weren't front page news.

Having said all that, nonetheless Senator Kennedy is one of the last - if not the last - of the old guard statesmen. Largely because the seat is/was his for life, he didn't have to worry about being a mere politician. He could work for his true personal beliefs (as much as I disagree with most of them). In the legislative arena, he is known as a man of integrity, and there is a long list of conservative senators who count him a close personal friend even as they decry his policy stances.

When he's gone, the senate will have lost something it can ill afford to do without.

{Insert amusing quotation here}

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Eek.

pO157.

Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:26:58 PM EST

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About 10,000 cases are diagnosed each year in the United States, and only about half of those patients survive one year, experts said. After two years, perhaps 25 percent are still alive.

More info here.

Not cool.

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The sad thing

Steve Urkel.

Tue May 20, 2008 at 05:44:17 PM EST

none

Kennedy was a co-sponsor of the 1965 Immigration Act. At the time he claimed:

 "Out of deference to the critics, I want to comment on ... what the bill will not do. First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset ... Contrary to the charges in some quarters, S.500 will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and economically deprived nations of Africa and Asia. In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think. Thirdly, the bill will not permit the entry of subversive persons, criminals, illiterates, or those with contagious disease or serious mental illness. As I noted a moment ago, no immigrant visa will be issued to a person who is likely to become a public charge."

Cities were, of course, flooded with millions of immigrants, the ethnic mix of the country was upset, America was innundated with immigrants from particular countries and areas. It did allow the influx of subversives, criminals, illiterates and the diseased, and it did result in lots of immigrants arriving and becoming public charges. America has been irrevocably transformed, for the worse. Kennedy himself was always insulated from the consequences of the immigration he desired by his inherited wealth. Teddy was the most disgusting of the whole disgusting Kennedy family, a family surrounded by a disgusting cult of personality. The sad thing about Teddy's brain tumor is that it didn't happen sooner. The end.

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zyxwvutsr.

Tue May 20, 2008 at 07:25:54 PM EST

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He was likely drunk when he said it, Urkel. People say all kids of shit when they're drunk; don't hold it against him.

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wetkarma.

Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:29:32 AM EST

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The sad thing about Teddy's brain tumor is that it didn't happen sooner. The end.

Shame on you.

Finis.

Memory is a strange bell, jubilee and knell.

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Let's see.

MayorBob.

Tue May 20, 2008 at 06:30:57 PM EST

4.50 (astute, astute, astute)

You apparently hold Kennedy personally responsible for the hordes of illegal immigrants who have graced our shores in the 43 years since he sponsored that piece of legislation. Hmmm. I guess succeeding administrations of primarily Republican presidents have had nothing to do with the situation. And for that, you wish that he had suffered that brain tumor earlier in life.

Stay classy, Steverino.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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JimmyHavok.

Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:30:52 PM EST

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I've heard an unpleasantly high number of people gloating about Kennedy's tumor.  It is disturbing how the right wing takes on these pet hates.

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WMK.

Thu May 22, 2008 at 10:24:56 AM EST

5.00 (astute, interesting)

I too am revolted by the gloating malevolence demonstrated by some regarding Kennedy's illness (and even more saddened by the explanation for this being that he apparently inflamed their deep seated racism and classism with his progressive liberal politics).  

I have to ask myself how I'd feel and how I'd behave if it were announced that Rumsfeld, Cheney, or Bush had a malignant glioma and I know I'd feel as if the ugly death those men now had to look forward to was somehow a just outcome in light of all the death and suffering they are directly responsible for creating in the world.  I don't really believe in cosmic justice or some supernatural consciousness that pays attention to human affairs and keeps a ledger of 'good' or 'bad' or 'naughty' or 'nice' behaviors that somehow influence the ultimate success, failure, prosperity, or ruin of living persons - I think the only 'justice' that can exist is what we the living make for ourselves.  I would hope that I'd have enough personal dignity and self respect to not soil myself by wallowing in a public display of hateful nastiness but the temptation to do so would be there - I really hate those fuckers.

I think the best I could say if any of the Bushco repugs were facing a similar fate is 'congratulations, it couldn't of happened to a nicer guy'.

In Ted Kennedy's case it's happening to a guy who spent his life championing other people and pursued a dream of a pluralist society which strives to maximize positive outcomes for the greatest majority of its members - every day of that struggle was spent locking horns with people like Urkel.  To see the lack of compassion expressed towards Kennedy is to gain more evidence that our opponents in the struggle for a more just, more free, more fair, and simply better society don't really deserve our compassion or our mercy - they deserved to be steamrolled in a zero sum game of vengeful politics - it's sad but, so be it.

"...when theft and high crime becomes obscenely obvious to even the blindest beer sucking idiot, it is always the Republicans who are in office." -- Joe Bageant

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Re: End of an Era? Ted Kennedy Diagnosed With Mal

thefadd.

Tue May 20, 2008 at 08:31:44 PM EST

none

You could always count on Teddy to kick up a storm. He got pilloried by the opposition--precisely because he was such a fantastic politician. You could always count on the guy to stand up against stupid shit like random decent Americans ending up on the no-fly list. It will be sad to see him go but if it inspires more Deaniacs to get in on the party, I'm sure he'd ultimately be happy to see that.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: End of an Era? Ted Kennedy Diagnosed With Mal

xtc.

Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 10:51:49 AM EST

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Kennedy is a murderer. He got away with killing Mary Jo Kopechne is the 70's because he drove drunk and drove off a bridge and killed her. Ted Kennedy never called the Police. At 8 am the next day some fisherman came across the car and called Police. Police found Ted trying to catch a ferry. Ted Kennedy initially denied any knowledge of the accident and Mary Jo Kopechne's dead body to the Police. When questioned further he refused to answer any questions without a lawyer.

His brother (JFK) was  elected thanks to mob who his father had close ties as a former rum runner. The Kennedy clan are a corrupt bunch. Ted's father Joe Kennedy was the ambassador to Britain during WW2, he wanted to deny Britain aid, he didn't want America involved in the war and he said if we lose Britain to the Nazis so be it.

If Ted dies I saw good riddance. He should have spent the last 30 years in jail for murder.

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