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Libertarians Run Bob Barr for President

pO157.

Posted to Politics on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:47:15 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

America's largest third party held its national convention this week in Denver, eventually selecting a former GOP Congressman and a relatively unknown businessman/gambler to challenge the GOP and Democrats for the White House in November.

Rep. Barr defeated scientist Dr. Mary Ruwart in the final round of balloting, and eventually endorsed Wayne Allen Root for the vice presidential slot. Analysts are already wondering if the Barr/Root ticket could spoil Senator McCain's chances in November.  Rep. Barr said he was in to win, not spoil. "I'm a competitor and I'm in this to win. I do not view the role of the Libertarian Party to be a spoiler and I certainly have no intention of being a spoiler"

Libertarian Media Coordinator Andrew Davis summed it up in one sentence: "Root's spirit combined with Barr's political experience creates a dynamite ticket that will blow apart the status quo politics of Republicans and Democrats."

But all is not well in Libertarian Land. There were rumblings on the convention floor, and across the country as people denounced Barr as unLibertarian with "much to atone for." Detractors of Rep. Barr pointed out some of his positions are against bedrock principles of the party. They referenced his initial vote for the Patriot Act, his support of the War on Drugs (which earned him condemnation from the Libertarians in 2002), authorship of the Defense of Marriage Act and other positions which he has since recanted. His supporters called the Patriot Act claim nonsense, saying he was the biggest GOP opponent to the law which lead to the loss of his seat at the hand of Karl Rove. They further point out his apology on some of his votes while a representative should appease fellow members of his new party. However, supporters of party supporter Dr. Ruwart point out that new converts like Barr and Gravel have much to learn about the party and would be better candidates in a few years after building credentials with bedrock Libertarians.

Other Libertarian officials say that even if Barr is not the perfect candidate his stature and experience will be valuable in building the party. According to Austin Peterson, a LP volunteer coordinator:

"It's true he's not a thoroughbred Libertarian, but the fact is the day Barr announced his candidacy, publicity spiked and so did donations and volunteer interest. The anarchist bloc and the purists have to understand that they can't grow the party on their own."
Others stated that perhaps Barr was a good compromise that would not alienate the mainstream like the party tends to do
"The radicals alienate people and attract only marginal media. We need to market ourselves better to the mainstream, and (Barr) can do that. We have to stop telling people that you have to read Murray Rothbard on the toilet and want to privatize the streets and the oceans or else you're a communist."

In other news, former Senator Mike Gravel (L-AK) ended his political career after having been eliminated during the fourth round on balloting in Denver. He said he intended to focus his energies on writing and pushing his issues in the future. "I just ended my political career. From 15 years old to now, my political career is over, and it's no big deal. I'm a writer, I'm a lecturer, I'm going to push the issues of freedom and liberty. I'm going to push those issues until the day I die."

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Doesn't Matter

uncarved block.

Thu May 29, 2008 at 03:30:23 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

    Unless and until there's a collective freak out in Congress and the Legislature implements a parliamentary system, no third party will be anything more than a chance for political purists to get some mic time. "We need to market ourselves better"? That's the words of an ad man who realizes the product is crap but still wants to earn a paycheck . . .
    A little harsh? Maybe, but then American politics has never been an arena for the easily offended. Until the Libertarian party is an option and not an alternative, they could run Jesus Christ Himself at the top of the ticket and still get attacked by Republicans concerned about losing an election or two. And He would likely lose the first ballot at the convention too ;)
    They do make great reality show style entertainment, though, so I guess the party won't fade into obscurity any time soon.

Ex ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras

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Re: Libertarians Run Bob Barr for President

skeptic.

Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:06:24 PM EST

4.00 (astute)

If the Libertarian Party does not stand for an end to the war on drugs, it stands for nothing.  Increased liberty for Americans must begin with the liberty of being allowed to make their own decisions about what drugs they wish to use.  So no, I do not see Barr as a suitable candidate.

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Re: Libertarians Run Bob Barr for President

pO157.

Wed May 28, 2008 at 02:07:34 PM EST

none

I agree. I look at it this way. I used to live in a very conservative area, but I was registered democrat. If there was a vacancy for a local office, and I had a "conversion" the year before and went from being a very public far left wing liberal to solid red republican, what would the local party say if I tossed my hat in the ring? They probably would not think too highly of my candidacy. Admittedly, the switch from far left to far right is not as big of a leap as from conservative to Libertarian but it appears the big L party is looking for name recognition this year to springboard it into major party status.

Researching this article, it appears the Libertarians are split between dejected people who supported Dr. Ruwart (or another candidate) and others who say "So? Barr has little chance of winning anyway. At least our party will be taken seriously which is never is. We need a guy like Barr to show the world we are not all crazy people in shacks from the Dakotas writing manifestos on our antique typewriters when we're not busy on AM radio." Well, name recognition is great, but what good is it if your big selling point until now was being the "Party of Principle" but now you switch to whoever will get you the most press, especially if he contradicts various points of the party platform? Come on.

I would really like to believe that Barr had a serious change of heart, but I am hesitant to declare my support for him just yet. Then again, Presidential Elections often end up being a choice of the lesser of several evils, so perhaps he is the way to go (at least as a protest vote). I just think they could have done better at picking a candidate with stronger credentials, but given the other choices (Vegas oddsmakers and talk radio hosts) perhaps that is too much to ask for.

Perhaps it is all academic. Perhaps the apologists will be correct in that Barr will simply be a springboard to get the Libertarian party into double digits nationwide (I hope they run a candidate in every congressional race), open up ballot access, and use this as a building year so in '12 they can return to a true Libertarian to head up the ticket. I hope so. I really think we can do better than a two party system.

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Re: Libertarians Run Bob Barr for President

Bryan Bytehead.

Wed May 28, 2008 at 07:25:36 PM EST

4.00 (interesting)

Bob Barr is as much of a Libertarian as I am a Republican.

Chances of me voting for anybody Republican this fall: 0%

Chances of Bob Barr voting like a Libertarian if voted in: >0%, but probably <10%

I can see it on taxes and on spending.  That's about it.

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Re: Libertarians Run Bob Barr for President

pO157.

Wed May 28, 2008 at 07:32:15 PM EST

none

That's the problem some Libertarians feel they are in. They feel they needed name recognition and somebody on the mainstream "inside" with "experience" to get the votes. Unfortunately, their two candidates that fit that bill, Gravel and Barr, really do not conform to much of the Libertarian party platform. Honestly I think Gravel would have been a better fit, even if he is more of a socialist on some domestic issues. Who would have thought a pro-"War on Drugs" nominee would run with Libertarian party backing?

Personally, I would have loved to see Ruwart (or another one) get the nomination and run on a "common sense, outsider" type of platform. If this is the way they cross the 15% threshold then how do they guarantee they go back to the old guard Libertarians in '12? How do they ensure they did not alienate their own (albeit small) base? I would hate to see them go the way of the Reform Party.

Before this I was relatively certain I would register as a Libertarian before the next election, out of protest against the recent policies of the Democrats, to help with ballot access in my state, agreement with much of their platform. Now with Barr holding the nomination I am reconsidering.

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Haven't been keeping up

Lou.

Wed May 28, 2008 at 08:50:49 PM EST

4.00 (funny)

Could someone tell me which one is Barr?

(Caption contest, anyone?)

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Caption Contest

pO157.

Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:13:15 PM EST

5.00 (brilliant)

"Well, sir, uh, you see, it's not that I support a war against your compound, per se, it's just... What? The Free Men of the Sovereign Northern District Nation? Huh? I'm not aware of a country by that name. No, I'm sure you are a member of an accredited diplomatic mission. What? I think it's great you have an information ministry. No, I'm not knocking AM radio. Anyway, as I tried to mention earlier I am against the methamphetamine lifestyle. Yes, well, I'm sure you would strenuously object. Yes, you can have a war against a concept. No, it's not a 'bullshit' existentialist question. With all due respect I don't care who NPH agrees with. No I will certainly not meet you in the parking lot to settle this matter of honor. Uhhh... Security?"

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My Caption.

MayorBob.

Thu May 29, 2008 at 07:06:04 AM EST

5.00 (brilliant, brilliant)

"How much of a Libertarian am I. Well, if elected, my first official act as president will be to marry you."

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Do muscle shirts lie?

Lou.

Thu May 29, 2008 at 04:33:36 PM EST

none

Because if not, Methuselah might be pretty excited by that idea.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Shorter makes it better

pO157.

Thu May 29, 2008 at 06:24:55 AM EST

none

"No, I really don't want to suck down some of your crank.... Oh, you mean methamphetamine? Thank God. I still pass."

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Re: Libertarians Run Bob Barr for President

skeeter1.

Wed May 28, 2008 at 10:48:40 PM EST

none

I used to vote Libertarian, but since they started running lunatic candidates years ago, I gave them up for dead.  Of course, the democratic campaign is making John McCain look better every day.  God help us all.

there's only one way to find out...

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ms sue.

Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:22:28 AM EST

5.00 (astute)

Of course, the democratic campaign is making John McCain look better every day.

I don't understand this conclusion. How do the Clinton machinations make John McCain look any different whatsoever?

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pO157.

Thu May 29, 2008 at 06:28:49 AM EST

none

Out of genuine curiosity, what candidates were lunatics?

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