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How Do You Browse?

port1080.

Posted to SciTech on Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 01:13:00 PM EST (promoted by 1fastdog). RSS.

The last week has seen major new releases from two of the "big big four" web browsers. Firefox 3 was released Tuesday, June 17th, while Opera 9.5 was released last Thursday, June 12th (both have been released in beta form for a number of months).

Apple's Safari browser has also seen big improvements in recent months, and last March saw the first stable release for the Windows platform, adding yet another competitive browser with multi-platform capabilities. Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser, while still dominating in terms of market share, seems to have once again slipped behind in terms of release cycles, as its next version (IE8) still lingers in its first beta release.

All of the major browsers have now adopted tabbed interfaces and built in search boxes, and two of the four (Firefox and Safari) now include built in spellchecking. Still, some differences persist - each uses a different html rendering engine (although all are now making solid efforts to be W3C compatible), and somewhat different user interfaces. Somewhat separating itself from the pack, Firefox also has a larger number of free and well integrated plugins than the other three browsers.

Which browser do you use? What features do you like, which do you hate? Did you take part in Firefox's effort to set a new Guinness world record?

Tags: written by Port1080, edited by 1fastdog, technology, Internet, web browsers, Opera, Safari, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Mozilla, Microsoft, Apple (all tags)

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Re: How Do You Browse?

delete me.

Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 04:57:09 PM EST

5.00 (funny)

I browse while looking nervously over my shoulder.

- derumi (del-me)
"Bobby Fischer? Man, that guy is crazy!" - Mike Tyson

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Re: How Do You Browse?

skeeter1.

Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 03:44:06 PM EST

none

"I browse while looking nervously over my shoulder."

Oh, how I remember that.  At one time I had an actual office, and could surf away.  Later on, they tore it down and put up a cube-farm.  The boss could just walk up-and-down and see what everyone was doing.  He, of course, had an office, and do plenty of fucking-around that no one could see, and he did plenty.

Now I'm retired, my time is mine, and I don't give a rat's ass about what anyone could see.  I don't watch porn, just blow my time on this and several other internet forums.  If you can get to that point in life, I highly recommend it.

there's only one way to find out...

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Re: How Do You Browse?

zyxwvutsr.

Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 01:21:39 PM EST

none

I haven't installed Firefox 3 yet, but I heard it's supposed to be color space aware. Until now, the only color space aware browser for Windows was Safari, as you can see in a test I did.

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Re: How Do You Browse?

port1080.

Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 04:14:23 PM EST

none

For starters, let me say that I think we live in a golden age of web browsers right now.  It's amazing that we've gone from a point (around 2000/2001) where large portions of the web could only be reliably viewed with one web browser (Internet Explorer) to a point where we have three other fully featured, fully functional, very fast and stable browsers on the table.  Part of the thanks has to go to web developers as well, of course, as they've come to realize that creating IE only sites is bad for business (of course, they'd still be able to get away with that if Firefox hadn't gotten so much press and market share).  While I like all three, I've generally come to stick with Firefox as my first choice browser because it seems to be just a bit more compatible with most websites than Opera or Safari (my house is a Mac & Linux only shop now, so IE isn't even on the table), and because of the smart way in which it handles skins and customization.  Still, I've (in the past) found Firefox to be a bit slow and unresponsive - but I feel that this has largely been taken care of with the version 3 release.  I've been using the RCs for FF3 on my main desktop (Ubuntu Linux) for a couple of months now, and I've found them to be quite stable and definitely faster than FF2.  I also noticed a nice performance boost on my Mac laptop (a 2005 Titanium Powerbook running Jaguar) when I switched to FF3 (although on the Mac, I'd say that Safari may still be slightly faster).  While on the topic of Macs - I must say I really like the new Firefox 3 skin for the Mac version - it fits much better with the overall look and feel of the OS now.  The new Opera skin is nice as well, but certain things about Opera (like the lack of a built in spell check function, and the fact that middle clicking on something to open a new tab opens the tab in the foreground instead of the background) tend to turn me off towards it (and the lack of working Flash support on Linux is the nail in the coffin).

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Opera

rumata.

Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 10:43:43 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

 

The new Opera skin is nice as well, but certain things about Opera (like the lack of a built in spell check function, and the fact that middle clicking on something to open a new tab opens the tab in the foreground instead of the background) tend to turn me off towards it (and the lack of working Flash support on Linux is the nail in the coffin).

Middle clicking opens a Tab in the background for me, so it's at least configurable (although I couldn't find an obvious option in 10sec). Flash works better than in FF for me too (whether that's a good thing is debatable). I had it manually set up for FF, but quite a few sites didn't work properly. Switched to Opera (about three month now), and I haven't run in a broken Flash site since, so I assumed it was built in.

The spell checker is something that I miss too, but for me one technical thing makes Opera win over FF:
Multi-threading done right.
With FF once or twice every hour something takes longer than usual to load, the uni's proxy/name-server is unresponsive, whatever, but with FF every single tab and every single window freezes, even if it's displaying content loaded hours ago. That behavior annoys the crap out of me and FF 3 suffers from it as well afaik.

Opera does it right, and lets me read other stuff while the offending tab sorts things out.

Cheers,
Michael

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Re: Opera

thefadd.

Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 06:39:37 PM EST

none

Good to know as that's probably my main complaint about firefox. Since saves all the tabs, I never worried about it so much, though.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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I fluctuate between IE and Firefox.

MayorBob.

Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 04:37:23 PM EST

none

I must admit a preference to FF if only because it's less clunky than IE. I used to use Nutscrape some number of years ago and it just seemed that the product was never supported the way it should have been. For anyone feeling at all nostalgic about the dearly departed, you can take a trip down memory lane.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: How Do You Browse?

HidingFromGoro.

Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 05:23:05 PM EST

none

I stick with Firefox because of the ad and flash blocking; I forget how much advertising and annoying flash there is on the Web until I see/use other folks' computers... it's horrible.  Same thing happens if I catch some TV at someone's house or in a restaurant or whatever, I've had a DVR for like 5 years and when I see commercials on TV it's a little jarring.

I do use IE for Netflix instant watching since their DRM locks it in to IE, though.

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Re: How Do You Browse?

skeeter1.

Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 10:35:45 PM EST

none

For the most part, I've been using Firefox for months.  My particular email service (AT&T) only works with IE7, so I have to keep a separate window open with that as well.  Opera has never appealed to me, and I've never tried Safari, because the reviews didn't sound particularly good.  I think two browsers is enough.  It might be time to uninstall Opera.  

there's only one way to find out...

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Re: How Do You Browse?

thefadd.

Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 11:51:22 PM EST

none

Yeah, I could never quite get into Opera. I tried it and wanted to like it but when Firefox came along I jumped straight into that and have never looked back at anything else.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: How Do You Browse?

skeeter1.

Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 05:21:50 AM EST

none

For those who are interested, I just installed Mozilla Firefox 3.0 last night.  The update from 2.0 was painless.  The look is a little different, and will take a little getting used to, but it's noticeably faster than 2.0.  I deleted Opera from my computer while I was at it.  I'm still stuck with IE7 for email, but them's the breaks.  FF3 is the best.  

there's only one way to find out...

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Re: How Do You Browse?

thefadd.

Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 10:48:34 AM EST

none

I love the "Save and Quit" function that lets you keep your tabs for next time!

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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