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My Mind Reader Tells Me There's A Crime Going On.

MayorBob.

Posted to Etcetera on Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 06:20:55 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

Some psychics claim they have the power to gather information they normally wouldn't have access to, see into the future and read your mind or transmit information by the power of thought. They even claim they can help police solve crimes. For most of us psychic powers seem either fantastic or weirdly interesting and amusing, yet ultimately harmless. But, according to Colleen Leduc of Barrie, Ontario her encounter with a psychic was anything but amusing.

Leduc's 11-year-old daughter, Victoria, is a student at Terry Fox elementary school. Victoria is also autistic and non-verbal. Leduc's psychic troubles began when Victoria's teaching assistant visited a psychic. The psychic told the TA she had a student with a name beginning with the letter V. The psychic then said the child was being sexually abused by a young man. The TA went to school administrators and reported the session. The school called the Children's Aid Society (CAS) which launched an investigation. CAS visited Leduc at home once and closed the case, calling it "ridiculous." Leduc waited for an apology or some sort of recognition that the school screwed up. She's still waiting.

Leduc removed her child from the school saying "I have trust issues." These trust issues are compounded by the Simcoe County School Board's apparent insistence that that the case isn't necessarily closed just because CAS said it was. Simcoe County Superintendent Dr. Lindy Zaretsky would only say "I don't have the information yet, but when we proceed with our own investigation we'll know more about that." The school says they have a requirement to report allegations of abuse. Indeed, the Child and Family Services Act specifically identifies teachers and school principals as those with a mandatory duty to report abuse they have "reasonable grounds" to believe occurred. Leduc wants to know how the school interpreted the words of a psychic, who knew nothing about her or her daughter to constitute "reasonable grounds." Even a person from the CAS wondered the same thing "it is highly unusual ... to have a case called in based upon what a psychic might say."

Thus the school board has committed to conduct its own investigation of the incident and Victoria is being held back from school. Leduc will not let her return to the school or the TA who started the whole thing. One of the reasons Victoria was attending public school was because Leduc couldn't afford the intensive treatment she believes the child needs. With an annual price tag of (CN)$50,000, that treatment seems out of reach for Leduc, who quit her job due to stress and the need to care for Victoria. She believes her next step is legal.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by MayorBob, psychic powers, child abuse, Canada (all tags)

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That's It?

thefadd.

Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 02:38:53 PM EST

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The case is closed, I don't see anything to get worked up over. CAS visited Leduc at home once and closed the case, calling it "ridiculous." So we're done here, right? I can't imagine what Loduc thinks she's entitled to.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: That's It?

MayorBob.

Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:18:32 AM EST

5.00 (astute, astute)

The case at CAS is closed and should never have been opened.  However, the school insists on dragging this thing out ensuring that Leduc will likely have a nice little legal complaint on her hands.  From her standpoint, she wants her daughter to get the $50K treatment she believes she needs.  She also wants her put in another school and never to come in contact with the TA.  I don't know if Canada is as litigious as the US, but if a similar thing happened in the US the lawyers would be taking numbers outside Leduc's door for the opportunity to represent her.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Psychic Power

skeptic.

Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 12:58:18 PM EST

3.00 (funny)

One interesting aspect of this story is the claim made by the psychic in question that the sexual abuse was being committed by a younger man, and since Victoria, the supposed victim of the abuse, is eleven, her supposed abuser would therefore be a pre-adolescent child, possibly some precocious ten year old.  Children can be cruel, of course (and can even be murderers in some rare cases) but for a child of that age to commit actual sexual abuse would be tremendously unlikely.  The psychic's accusation would have been much more plausible by claiming that the abuser was older, not younger than the victim.  

Aside from that obvious problem, it is truly ridiculous that psychics are taken so seriously.  The whole field of psychic power, in its various forms, is utterly without scientific or factual basis, and is simply an exploitation of the superstitions of poorly educated people.  That the claims of a psychic should in themselves lead to an actual investigation by the Children's Aid Society is grotesque.

That's not to say that a professional psychic couldn't report a crime.  Psychics can witness crimes just as anyone else can, using their normal human senses, rather than their supposed psychic powers.  But that does not appear to be the case in this particular incident.  The psychic did not claim to have witnessed anything, merely to have mysterious, supernatural knowledge derived from her supposed psychic ability.  And that is nonsense.

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You need to read the main link.

MayorBob.

Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 02:02:23 PM EST

none

It doesn't indicate that the sexual abuse was being laid on by a "precocious ten year old." What the TA said the psychic told her was "... well, you need to know that that child is being sexually abused by a man between the ages of 23 and 26." I don't think my write up would give the impression the alleged abuser was younger, rather than older than Victoria.

You're quite right that this incident should never have occurred. Let me count the ways it could have been nipped in the bud before it got to the point it's gotten: 1. The TA really needs to get a grip on herself and separate her beliefs in psychics and fortune tellers and real life events. 2. The school should have said "say what, a psychic told you this" before they called Children's Aid Society. They should have at least gotten in touch with the psychic to find out what led her to her "vision" and if that's all it was, make that the end of the story. 3. CAS ought really to have asked the source for the allegation (if they didn't) and, if it was from a psychic have at least looked into whether the psychic knew Leduc, her daughter, or this alleged abuser. 4. The school is shitting itself if it thinks an apology, of the most abject sort, isn't in order to Leduc. If they want to conduct a full-blown investigation into how it got from a TA who believes in the spirit world to a school administrator who should have asked a few questions to a call to CAS, so be it. But the apology is owed to Leduc. And then it would be nice for the school board to offer to provide Victoria with the intensive service she needs and transfer to another school away from the TA.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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sorry

skeptic.

Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:14:00 AM EST

none

I read the line saying that the psychic said that the autistic girl was being abused by a young man, and for some reason read that as a younger man.  Very sloppy of me.  Sometimes I just don't take as much time as I should.

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Re: Psychic Power

postillion.

Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 02:58:20 AM EST

none

The whole field of psychic power, in its various forms, is utterly without scientific or factual basis, and is simply an exploitation of the superstitions of poorly educated people.

Oh, I absolutely agree.  And that's why every parent with a kid in this school should be worried that such a poorly educated person is a TA.

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ESP

Lou.

Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 03:02:10 PM EST

none

I knew you were going to say that.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: ESP

postillion.

Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 03:55:58 PM EST

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I knew you knew I was going to say it, and I considered not saying it because you already knew I was going to say it.  But I then thought that it would be disappointing to your expectations if I didn't say what you knew I was going to say.

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