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George Carlin: Class Clown Dead at 71

logan.

Posted to Media on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 06:38:10 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

He was an American icon, a keen observer of human behavior and an insightful commenter on modern society. He was the central figure in a landmark obscenity trial, the first person to host Saturday Night Live, and the 2008 Honoree for the Mark Twain Prize for American Humor. George Carlin died of heart failure Sunday at Los Angeles-area hospital. He was 71.

Carlin is considered to be one of the greatest comedians in American history, able to stand beside Richard Pryor and Lenny Bruce in terms of his skill and his influence. In a career that spanned five decades George Carlin gave us 22 albums, 14 HBO Specials, 5 books, and innumerable stand up tours and TV appearances. Carlin's trademarks were his love of language and his hatred of hypocrisy. These two forces came together in his most famous piece, "Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television", wherein he holds forth on the roles these magic words have in our society. It was this monologue that was sparked the FCC vs Pacific Foundation trial that formally established the FCC's power to regulate the broadcast airwaves for "indecent" content.

For several generations of fans George Carlin has been a rite of passage. You'd huddle in some bedroom or rec room, Class Clown or Occupation: Foole on the turntable, the volume as low as it will go. You and your friends would crowd around the speakers, basking in the glow of the funniest thing you've ever heard in your life, knowing in your soul that bad things awaited you if your parents heard these horrible words emanating from your room. For some kids, this was the moment their relationship with their parents changed. They'd looked up and saw their stern and authoritarian father standing at the doorway not ready to condemn the language, but laughing along, and remembering the first time he heard George Carlin. OK, maybe it's just me, but I thought Scott's dad was gonna send us all home and call our parents then give Scott a whuppin'. Instead, he pulled up a chair and told us about seeing Carlin live, relating to us as fellow fans and sharing the warmth. It was a real Hallmark moment, albeit one punctuated with the word "Cocksucker".

George Carlin: American Humorist, First Amendment Poster Boy, Class Clown. We'll miss you, George.  

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George Carlin Now Belongs To The Ages.

MayorBob.

Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:52:24 AM EST

5.00 (funny)

Carlin would probably have been the last person to want to have a bunch of weepy-eyed sentimentality muck up his departure. I wonder if you could reach George in the spirit world what he might have to say to those of us he left behind?

1. "They're killing me up here."

2. "Have a nice day because, frankly, I'm not feeling too well."

3. "Come to Hell and meet a more interesting group of people."

4. "Get ready for my comeback tour -- Ain't No Limits On What I Can Say Now."

5. "Somedays it sucks to be me."

I'll just end this with the highest tribute I can to Carlin's memory -- I loved his work.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: George Carlin: Class Clown Dead at 71

skeeter1.

Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 07:36:50 AM EST

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I don't know if anyone can truly replace Carlin, or Cheech & Chong for that matter (yes I was a hippy in the '70's).  I've seen performances by Howie Mandel, and Robin Williams that were in the same ballpark.  

Comedians like Henny Youngman, Jack Benny, and many others who have passed away.  

On a brighter note, there are still plenty of good comedians out there, and I'm sure there will be more every day.

God bless you, George, and I hope you have a pleasant afterlife.

there's only one way to find out...

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Re: George Carlin: Class Clown Dead at 71

thefadd.

Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 03:07:41 PM EST

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On a brighter note, there are still plenty of good comedians out there, and I'm sure there will be more every day.

That's a funny list itself. Seinfeld (#1) sucks at stand up and doesn't perform anymore anyway. Dane Cook (#2) got old fast. Carlin and Hedberg are probably the two funniest on that top ten, but very sadly are both now dead. I don't know where it really went for Robin Williams, sadly. Maybe they'll come back one day but Dave Chapelle and Chris Rock both got out while they were ahead. I'll give them Katt Williams in a top ten list. Why Richard Pryor is not in the top ten is amazing.

To be constructive, I love Eddie Izzard...probably the best out there doing anything today. But I still love most just to go back and watch Eddie Murphy from the early 80's.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Great Comedians

logan.

Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 02:06:25 PM EST

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There are plenty of great comedians out there. The only question is if there are any who can and will push the boundaries of what comedy can be. Lenny Bruce, George Carlin and Richard Pryor brought us more topical, more analytical comedy that had a purpose beyond simple entertainment. They made you think. Steve Martin turned the concept of the joke on its head using irony and non-sequiter. Andy Kaufman parodied the concepts of entertainment and celebrity by creating characters who were untalented or offensive yet somehow famous and entertaining. For as much as Jerry Seinfeld, Ellen DeGeneres,and Steven Wright are great comics with distinctive styles, they aren't really pushing the boundaries of comedy.

Personally, I've got my eye on Patton Oswalt to push the boundaries. I've seen the man perform over 30 times and he just keeps getting funnier. If nothing else, Patton deserves credit for putting together the package tour The Comedians of Comedy, where a group of comedians tour together. Patton's material is smart and edgy and doesn't pander. Whether he manages to change the face of comedy is TBD, but (IMHO) he's simply the best comedian working in America today.

-=Logan
Research, facts, a Republican needs not these things

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Re: Great Comedians

keta.

Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 02:37:38 PM EST

5.00 (informative, astute)

Let's not forget Mort Sahl.  He was the true progenitor of Bruce, Pryor, et al.

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Re: Great Comedians

thefadd.

Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 04:06:59 PM EST

none

Ralphie May can be pretty political. I've like the things he's said in his comedy club performances but he doesn't really seem to have that extra edge of a top comedian.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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About the poll...

T Slothrop.

Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 12:22:02 PM EST

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...which for once goes well with the story and shows why this feature (rarely) works...

I think Lewis Black comes as close as anyone working today to capturing Carlin's world view. I thoroughly enjoy his work (and I'm gonna see him live next month - woot).

Having said that, I'm afraid Carlin may be irreplaceable. There was a  gentleness buried under his barbs that I just don't hear coming from anyone else now.

God damn I feel old on days like this.

{Insert amusing quotation here}

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Re: About the poll...

thefadd.

Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 03:09:27 PM EST

none

Yeah, he was rough around the edges but he always humanized things and I think that's what so many comedians miss.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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delete me.

Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 05:23:47 PM EST

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How about a moment of silence for Mr. Carlin?

- derumi (del-me)
"Bobby Fischer? Man, that guy is crazy!" - Mike Tyson

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Saw Carlin about 4 years ago...

port1080.

Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:12:32 AM EST

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...at a college campus.  It was a small school and hence a relatively small audience (about 1500 or so), and Carlin was clearly phoning it in to a large extent, but he still has a masterful ability to read the audience and his delivery was absolutely stellar.  The most amusing thing about it all was that the auditorium where he gave his show does double duty as a chapel (an irony that was not lost on Carlin, and received more than a few mentions throughout the night).  I also saw John Stewart on the same stage, a few years earlier (right after he started on the Daily Show, before he got really big).

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Patience

Steve Urkel.

Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 06:53:53 PM EST

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For years he joked about how God doesn't exist, because if God did exist He would strike him dead. I guess God finally had enough and killed him.

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Good things come to those who wait...and wait..

Lou.

Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 11:57:24 AM EST

5.00 (astute)

That or it was very much your garden variety heart failure.  Now, if Carlin had suffered a sort of melting flesh Raiders of the Lost Ark angel assault, I'd say yeah, god was pissed.  

But...he was pretty liberal/libertarian in his politics so I imagine that lots of fundamentalists who's hearts are filled with the Love of a Living Christ are pretty happy that "god struck him down".

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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theological implications

skeptic.

Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 10:21:44 AM EST

5.00 (brilliant)

I have become a very Quixotic participant to these discussions, and I will now post my excessively late comment.

It is, of course, ridiculous to imagine that George Carlin was finally stuck down by God at the age of 71 after a lifetime of blasphemy, when logically if God was really offended by George Carlin the divine retribution could have come much earlier and could (as you point out) have also be inflicted in a manner that would make God's displeasure evident, rather than in the form of heart attack, which is an ailment that seems to afflict all sorts of people, whether pious or impious.  

It is interesting that in the latter years of the life of Pope John Paul II, when he suffered from Parkinson's disease, he did not conclude that God was punishing him, but rather, he concluded that God had inflicted the disease on him in order to give him greater empathy toward other sick people (all of whom, presumably, had also been made sick by God for a variety of mysterious purposes).  So it seems that theologically speaking, sickness or even death can be either a punishment or a blessing.  

I could just as easily assert that the reason why God finally killed George Carlin is because God is a fan of Carlin, and He wanted more stand-up comedy in Heaven.  With theology, anything goes.  Carlin understood that.

Maybe nobody ever dies for any other reason than the will of God; maybe God causes all things, whether good or bad.  And we would all live forever if God did not choose to strike us down.  Is this a reasonable theory?  Of course not.  Even though nobody can prove it wrong (the usual theistic argument - I can't prove I'm right but you can't prove I'm wrong, nyaah nyaah!) it is an obviously improbable theory, contra-indicated by Occam's Razor.  Since we understand quite well why human biology, in accordance with the laws of nature as we know them, will cause many people to develop heart disease and eventual heart attacks, we have no need to hypothesize a supernatural cause as well.

If we did want to hypothesize a supernatural cause for a perfectly normal event, why not claim that Carlin was murdered by a means of a voodoo doll?  If so, there is a murderer out there who must be brought to justice before he kills again!  Of course, we have absolutely no evidence for this bizarre hypothesis, but who cares, we have no evidence that Carlin was killed by God either, yet that won't stop people from making that assertion.  Who needs evidence?  We have faith!

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