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Hurting Man's Best Friend -- Bad. Selling Videos Of Same -- Good.

MayorBob.

Posted to Legal on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 06:52:18 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

Morally it might seem a mighty fine line, but for Robert Stevens of Pittsville, Virginia the fact there is a legal difference between treating animals cruelly and selling videos depicting animal cruelty makes a big difference - between 37 months in prison and freedom, to be exact. According to a panel from the US Third District Court of Appeals, the former is a crime and the latter a legitimate expression of free speech. In arriving at their 10-3 decision (pdf doc), they not only gave relief to Stevens, they also overturned a federal law regarding "creation, sale, or possession of animal cruelty."

The decision overturns a law passed by Congress in 1999 aimed at stopping the trafficking in animal cruelty videos. Stevens was the first person prosecuted under the statute after he sold a set of animal cruelty videos to federal investigators in Pittsburgh back in 2004. Stevens' defense was that the videos contained scenes of "old style dogfights" which had some sort of "political, scientific, educational, journalistic, historical or artistic value" to them. The argument given during oral presentation before the appeals panel was that selling the videos was a legitimate exercise of Stevens' First Amendment rights.

Stevens' argument proved compelling enough for the majority to void his conviction and declare the law unconstitutional. Circuit Judge D. Brooks Smith, writing for the majority, observed "the Supreme Court has not recognized a new category of speech that is unprotected by the First Amendment in over twenty-five years." Yet, this is exactly what this case required the court to do and "we decline the Government's invitation" to do that. As the Supreme Court had made an exception to the free speech rule when it came to child pornography, the court was asked to consider the creation, sale or possession of animal cruelty videos as being coequal as the creation, sale or possession of child pornography. This was firmly rejected in the majority opinion -- "Preventing cruelty to animals, although an exceedingly worthy goal, simply does not implicate interests of the same magnitude as protecting children from physical and psychological harm." The three dissenters disagreed saying the law has value in "protecting animals from wanton acts of cruelty."

A similar case, involving internet cockfights, was filed in federal court last year in Florida. The Justice Department had no reaction to the 3rd Circuit's decision. However, usually when a federal law is overturned by the Court of Appeals, the case which overturned it is usually appealed to the US Supreme Court.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by MayorBob, animals, animal cruelty, videos, free speech (all tags)

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a different kind of pusher

gerrymander.

Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 11:50:09 AM EST

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On one hand, I agree that the majority opinion reached in this case is correct.

On the other, I'm kind of disappointed. One of the more common animal rights activist tactics is to distribute and show graphic images which they feel constitute animal abuse. Using a ruling against Stevens to motivate criminal proceedings against PETA would have been comic irony.

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Looks like this story is going to sink...

T Slothrop.

Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 12:26:20 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

...and that's too bad, as there are some real issues here that probably need to be discussed at some length.

But I for one simply cannot comment without going off on a wild-eyed, foaming-at-the-mouth rant that will leave any of you who still may have any slight amount of respect for my opinions shaking your heads and clicking away.

I am absolutely no fan or supporter of PETA. I still occasionally eat beef and wear leather. But sub-humans like Stevens should be sentenced to having to experience the exact same tortures on themselves as they inflicted on their victims. And if that doesn't kill them they should then be gut shot and allowed to bleed to death.

Some "people" have lost the right to continue to breath the same air as the rest of us.

{Insert amusing quotation here}

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I'm with you.

MayorBob.

Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 12:46:44 PM EST

none

Insofar as having to choke back a whole metric ton of bile and anger at this person being able to profit from outright depraved cruelty to animals using the First Amendment as a shield. What, oh that's right, he has some noble "educational or journalistic" purpose in mind when he sets up his cameras at the locations where dogs are going to tear other dogs to pieces for the entertainment of paying customers. Right, because the historical record would be incomplete without Stevens loving recreations of those "old-fashioned dog fights."

By the logic of the court here, the creation and sale of snuff flicks could be justified if it could be shown the film company was merely recording the event to complete an historical, educational or journalistic study of killing other people. But I understand snuff flicks are urban legends. Better not get that word to Stevens or he's liable to branch out.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: I'm with you.

thefadd.

Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 01:48:21 PM EST

none

I haven't read the links and I don't intend to because I'm certainly not bent on defending the guy. However, I think there's a difference between if he put the dog fights on himself and then filmed them or just went to dog fights that were already happening and filmed those. He is recording a crime and to that extent documenting it so that the perpetrators could be more easily caught (even if that is the farthest thing from his intention). I don't think it should be a crime to record a crime. Punishing the crime itself is enough.

Now, if he is actually doing this for historical purposes, he should have the reverence for life not to try to profit off it or to donate the funds made to rehabbing fight dogs or a similarly noble cause. But that's not a legal issue.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: I'm with you.

port1080.

Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 03:34:13 PM EST

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By the logic of the court here, the creation and sale of snuff flicks could be justified if it could be shown the film company was merely recording the event to complete an historical, educational or journalistic study of killing other people. But I understand snuff flicks are urban legends."

Well, what do you think of rotten.com (Most definitely NSFW).  That's a site that carries some pretty graphic and disturbing stuff, but does it in a relatively journalistic /educational fashion.  The problem is basically intent.  If someone had a video camera and took movies of people being tortured and killed during the Holocaust and sold them online as "Killin' Kikes Volumes I-VII!!" we would be justifiably upset.  On the other hand, the small amount of surviving footage we do have of Holocaust victims is almost always show in documentaries under the slogan of "never forget", and if that hypothetical "Killin' Kikes" tape actually had been made, today we would probably find it to be invaluable evidence to document the atrocities.  This is why it's so hard for the courts to decide on these cases.  As gerrymander noted upthread - what about the PETA videos showing lab animals being abused?  Should those be legal or should they be banned?  Personally, I think the focus should be on preventing the activity (snuff, child abuse, animal abuse, whatever) rather than images thereof.  Those events are cases where obvious, direct harm has happened to an animal or an individual and no defense can be made in terms of journalistic or education intent (and likewise problematic mistakes or missapplications of the law are much less likely to occur).

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Yeesh, rotten.com

MayorBob.

Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 04:22:23 PM EST

none

Yes, I'm aware of the site (and others like it) and I simply don't go there. I'm not sure how those sites manage to pay for upkeep, but they're not getting any revenue stream from me.

But that's not really what you're getting at here. You're asking me would I be in favor of banning those videos and not allowing them to be sold. I guess at the end of the day I would have to say you can't really ban those videos, because there is a First Amendment and even a slender educational or journalistic rationale is still a rationale for protecting them. Although I do think a compelling connection could be made connecting the dots between outlawing child porn and outlawing these sorts of videos. Child sexual abuse is illegal and child porn is illegal. As I said in my write up, the rationale for that is that children are so damned vulnerable to the designs and trepidations of adults that we need to protect them from same. So too are animals which are the subjects of Stevens brand of videos. And the fights depicted in those videos are illegal. So, if you're intent is to protect children or animals who are potentially vulnerable victims, why not make the animal fight flicks illegal also?

Pictures of the Holocaust are generally considered to be educational and constant reminders of how low the human animal can go when it becomes possessed by toxic political or religious values. So too would be the pictures of lynchings which you can find at various places on the web. I don't think the Holocaust photos have much evidentiary value in a court of law anymore. The best evidence brought against those who designed and executed the Final Solution tended to be the Nazis' penchant for maintaining complete records.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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