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Can You Give Me Sanctuary So I Can Break The Law Again?

MayorBob.

Posted to Legal on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 09:27:47 PM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

San Francisco Bay area cities are just a little more liberal and activist than your average American city. Take immigration policy, for instance. Since the 1980s, San Francisco and Oakland have had City of Refuge ordinances in effect. Basically they say that city officials will not cooperate with federal authorities in trying to apprehend illegal immigrants. As recently as 2006 San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsome lauded his city's reputation as a beacon to all - even illegal immigrants. But a recent crime, and the public's reaction to it, might mean that San Francisco may move to change all of that.

The crime was your basic horrific road rage incident. Anthony Bologna and his two sons had gotten into a dispute with a car driven by Edwin Ramos. Ramos pulled a gun and settled the dispute by shooting Bologna and his sons to death. The 21-year-old Ramos was arrested a few days later and will face triple murder charges. The fact that Ramos is a gang member caused community ire to increase due to feeling that crime was spiraling out of control.

Then came the information that Ramos is also an illegal immigrant and had been a beneficiary of the city's lenient attitude towards illegal immigration. Because, twice while Ramos was a juvenile he had been sheltered from deportation even though he was convicted of two violent felonies. Apparently this benign neglect extended to this past March when he was arrested on gun charges as an adult. In truth, the city and the federal government are playing the blame game on the March incident. The sheriff's department says it sent a notice to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) that they could pick up Ramos any time they chose. ICE says it has no record of any such cooperation from the sheriff. Earlier this month Mayor Newsome announced the city's policy on sheltering illegals involved in violent crime would be changed. The federal government says it's still waiting for the first signs that anything has changed.

Thus in the wake of this, Danielle Bologna is calling for the city to change the rules she holds partially responsible for the deaths of her husband and sons. The public mood says things must change also. Meanwhile, at his client's arraignment, Edwin Ramos' lawyer Robert Amperon is asking for a gag order from the judge. Amperon then went on to say the media is all wrong about his client -- false info had been published regarding his juvenile record, he's not a gangbanger, he's not responsible for the triple murder and he isn't even an illegal immigrant.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by MayorBob, illegal immigration, crime, murder, road rage, City of Refuge laws, San Francisco (all tags)

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Re: Can You Give Me Sanctuary

thefadd.

Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 02:30:22 AM EST

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I don't see where this qualifies as "sanctuary." Immigration is a federal issue and responsibility in this country. The feds don't respect our state laws (ie medical marijuana) why should local resources be spent on things the feds (obviously in this case) can't be bothered with?

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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zyxwvutsr.

Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 08:12:40 AM EST

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The feds don't respect our state laws (ie medical marijuana) why should local resources be spent on things the feds (obviously in this case) can't be bothered with?
From the story:
...about an hour after Ramos' release, deputies made a formal request of a federal computer database about Ramos' status for "billing purposes," so as to possibly recoup the cost of housing him on behalf of immigration.

Tim Counts, a spokesman for the immigration agency, said his agency's records reflect that sheriff's deputies didn't ask about Ramos' status until more than an hour after Ramos was freed from custody.

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The Hed.

MayorBob.

Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 06:20:31 AM EST

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When I was back there in seminary school there was a person there who put forth the proposition that you could use Doors lyrics to create headlines.

YOU CANNOT PETITION AL GORE WITH AN ECO-FRIENDLY CHAIR!

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Yes, immigration is a federal responsibility.

MayorBob.

Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 06:38:36 AM EST

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But taking steps to ensure your law abiding citizens are protected from the depredations of your garden variety sociopath and gangbanger is a local responsibility, wouldn't you say?  It would seem to me that Ramos was given two swats with the bat as a juvenile (and San Francisco's refuge policies are reportedly a bit more stringent for juveniles).  But this past March, Ramos is an adult arrested on some serious charges.  Wouldn't it have been prudent to at least see if city authorities were disposed to ease up on letting the federales return him to his native Guatemala?  I think that is one of the pertinent question this case involves.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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