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The 4th

DEMachina.

Posted to Diary on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:36:54 PM EST. RSS.

I have mixed feelings about patriotic holidays.

I began thinking about this when Memorial Day came around, although that one is a mixed bag for me for other reasons.

The true purpose of the Fourth of July, like a lot of holidays in the U.S., has become somewhat obscured.  A lot of times it's just a day people get off work and an excuse to party.  I'll admit this is the first time I've really thought about what the Fourth means since I got over that pseudo-patriotism our schools indoctrinate young kids with.

I don't remember how it came up precisely; I think it was talking briefly with a classmate of mine who's also in the military and who is extremely patriotic (the angriest I've ever seen this guy was when someone said the U.S. was basically a terrorist state).

I'll admit my self-image as an American (or Unitedstatesian) has always been shaky.  That is to say, the U.S. is not one of the first groups I think of myself as belonging to.  I remember a character in Thirteen by Richard Morgan saying something like, "no one who knows its history is proud of their country."  That describes a lot of how I feel...I always wonder about that whole pride thing.  Our country has done some terrible, terrible things, and we often accuse other countries of those same things.  This was the same problem I had being associated with an organized religion: how can I join a group that has done such horrible things?  

Honestly I think patriotism does a lot more harm than good.  It blinds us to the bad things our country has done, and by failing to learn from those mistakes, is still doing.

Thus I find myself wondering what exactly I should be celebrating.  I suppose in a lot of ways I'm asking for too much; things could be a lot worse, and in the past they have been.  But somehow "things could be worse!" isn't for me a cause of celebration.  

So, have a good weekend, dear reader; try to spend it with some people that deserve your loyalty, as I will.  This year, I'll be thinking about all that could have been, and all that can still be.  

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Re: The 4th

ms sue.

Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 05:12:13 PM EST

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I don't have any problem whatsoever waving the flag a little on July 4. I figure that I'm just as entitled to some quiet pride in my non-perfect and never-to-be-perfect country as the know-nothings, the xenophobes, and the ultra-nationalists are to their anger-tinged zealotry.

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zyxwvutsr.

Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:44:33 AM EST

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...my...never-to-be-perfect country...
So cynical.

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DEMachina.

Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:09:49 AM EST

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That's a good approach, I like that.

Q: What do you think of western civilization? Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.

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Just Another Day Off To Me

thefadd.

Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 08:56:27 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

I don't really complain how they come.

On a side, note, ever see the flag waving underground civilization in the 70s flick "A Boy And His Dog"?

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Re: The 4th

tomc.

Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 10:31:27 PM EST

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Americans should take pride in many of the things we have accomplished.  

But we should be shameful for the horrible things we have perpetrated.

I believe in a balanced perspective.

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I'll be naive (for once).

pO157.

Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 10:25:29 PM EST

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The country has many many flaws, but it is still the best system out there. I feel one of the main duties of being a citizen is simply to work within the system when possible to make the country a better place. I have no problem celebrating that.

Now if we could simply get the idiots to stop shooting bottle rockets at my home and discharging professional grade fireworks out of canons on the street in a dense urban residential area, that would be a real plus. I'd even be willing to settle for those stupid shits behind the house to stop playing 'tag' by throwing cherry bombs at each other.

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delete me.

Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 05:17:15 PM EST

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As long as they let me celebrate Canada Day and Pearl Harbor Day, I'm all cool.

Oh, and I'd like Golden Week off, too.

- derumi (del-me)
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