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Who Watches The Watchmen? Why, Fox Studios, Of Course

MayorBob.

Posted to Business on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:59:56 PM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

If you've been to your local cineplex recently, chances are you saw the trailer for The Watchmen, scheduled for release in early 2009. Scheduled for release, but looking more and more like it might never see the inside of a movie house. Why? Because Fox Studios believes it has Warner Brothers outfoxed.

The much anticipated film treatment of Alan Moore's classic graphic novel (none dare call it a comic book) of crime and retired super heroes is on the schedule for release next March. Reportedly, Warner Brothers has pumped close to (US)$120 million into the venture, so this is serious business. But, property rights are serious business also. And Fox claims that back in the 1980s it paid good money for the distribution rights to a movie made from the novel. It filed a suit this past February reasserting its claim. Just recently, a federal judge refused to dismiss Fox's suit. Judge Gary Fees seemed to rule that Warner Brothers doesn't even have a right to the movie it has produced at all:

"It is particularly noteworthy that nothing on the face of the complaint or the documents supplied to the Court establishes that (Watchmen producer Larry) Gordon, the claimed source of Warner Brothers' interest in Watchmen, ever acquired any rights in Watchmen."
This leaves the movie in legal limbo. By March, it'll be totally prepared for release but, unless some middle ground can be found, it won't light up any movie house anywhere. All of which has fanboys of the novel up in arms that Fox is doing what Fox is doing. The prospects of Fox burying Watchmen has these same fanboys threatening to take action against the evil empire at Fox.

Fox is sticking to its legal guns on this one and Warner Brothers seems to believe it can win out between now and March. Of course it's possible that Warner Brothers will just pony up a nice round sum to make Fox go away. The question being how much should that settlement be? Just to place this in context, almost exactly the same scenario played out before back in 2005. That's when Warner Brothers forked over $17.5 million to a Georgia producer for the copyright to the property the movie The Dukes of Hazzard was based on.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by MayorBob, movies, Watchmen, Warner Brothers, Fox Studios, copyright, lawsuit, Alan Moore, fanboys (all tags)

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logan.

Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 02:17:53 PM EST

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Alt Title: "Who Gets to Watch The Watchmen? Not us."

Considering that "The Watchmen" is on Time Magazine's list of "the 100 best English-language novels" alongside "The Great Gatsby", "The Grapes of Wrath", "The Sun Always Rises" and "On The Road", I find it deeply condescending to refer to anyone who appreciates the book a "fanboy". I've never heard any of Thomas Pynchon, F. Scott Fitzgerald or Ernest Hemingway's readers called fanboys. Why don't Alan Moore's fans get the same respect?

(End rant, switch to decaf)

-=Logan
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port1080.

Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 02:25:47 PM EST

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much ado about nothing

wetkarma.

Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 03:55:59 AM EST

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If this was still in the pre-production phase, the odds would be good that the movie doesn't get made. However having already filmed it, the clear business decision is to come to a settlement.

Gone are the days when movies are 'destroyed'..at worst they are released direct to home video. Unless you are a shareholder in Warner Bros, this issue has no impact on the average consumer.

Memory is a strange bell, jubilee and knell.

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T Slothrop.

Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 11:42:34 AM EST

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I agree. No way this film gets buried after that much money spent and all the publicity of the past several weeks. If Fox has a case they will likely get a big slice of the pie, but the pie is definitely going to be served.

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Re: Who Watches The Watchmen?

skeptic.

Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:54:06 AM EST

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Since the legal issues are not actually resolved as yet, it is premature to say whether Warner Brothers actually was in error as claimed by Fox.  But if indeed Warner Bothers made an expensive movie without first securing the rights to the novel upon which it is based, that was a tremendously stupid thing to do.  And Fox will cash in.

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Re: Who Watches The Watchmen?

port1080.

Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 12:17:18 PM EST

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Setting aside the contract dispute for a minute - how likely is it that this movie is actually going to live up to the comic?  I'm hopeful, but I wonder about the release date...it's definitely not a typical release date for a movie that a studio expects to be a blockbuster.  Then again, with the probable R rating maybe they came to the conclusion that it would be better to be a big fish in a small pond than have to go up against a bunch of PG13 rated summer action flicks...

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T Slothrop.

Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 01:11:28 PM EST

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Will it live up to fanboy expectations? Probably not. Will it live up to the expectations of people like me who only occasionally read graphic novels? Probably.

I actually hope the film gets an "R" rating. Watchmen is not for kids. The story is just about as bleak as a Russian novel, and is filled with enough murder, mayhem, sex and even a rape, and - in the end - what can only be described as genocide. So to me a "PG-13" will signal that the producers sold out and the film will definitely suck.

I know the March release date seems weird. I know this Fox suit won't help. But damn, I pulled out my old copy of the trade paper edition after seeing the trailer for the first time and after reading it watched the trailer several times again. I'm sure anyone who has read the novel has noticed that every flippin' scene in the trailer is lifted panel-for-panel directly from the book. I've read somewhere that the rough cut ran three hours and Warner was pressing the director for a 140 - 150 minute final.

That all sounds like somebody is at least trying very hard to make it sure it doesn't suck, fwiw.

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port1080.

Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 01:33:19 PM EST

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I've read somewhere that the rough cut ran three hours and Warner was pressing the director for a 140 - 150 minute final. That all sounds like somebody is at least trying very hard to make it sure it doesn't suck, fwiw.

Yeah, I've read a lot about it and it sounds like the director (Zach Snyder) is really attempting to maintain fidelity with the comic.  On the other hand, I saw his last comic book adaptation (300) and really didn't care for it....BUT I think that's more because I just didn't care for the story itself (and probably wouldn't have liked the graphic novel, either, although I'll admit I haven't read it) than anything intrinsic about his directing skills.  I do hope, though, that if they really do make him cut a full hour out of it, that they eventually release a director's cut that puts back in everything from the original rough cut.

I actually hope the film gets an "R" rating. Watchmen is not for kids. The story is just about as bleak as a Russian novel, and is filled with enough murder, mayhem, sex and even a rape, and - in the end - what can only be described as genocide. So to me a "PG-13" will signal that the producers sold out and the film will definitely suck.

Yeah...I can't really imagine this with a PG13 rating.  I don't expect one, though.  300 had an R rating and did pretty good in terms of box office receipts, and V for Vendetta (the last adaptation of an Alan Moore graphic novel) was released with an R rating and pulled in a fairly respectable (although I think somewhat below expectations) haul.  I guess it's worth noting as well that both V and 300 also had March release dates, so maybe that's partly what they had in mind with choosing that month.

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Good. Bury it.

profwhat.

Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:14:57 PM EST

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I'm sorry Warner Brothers might lose money, but it serves them right.  The man who wrote the book doesn't want a movie made: Alan Moore says "Watchmen works perfectly fine as a comic," and "'There are things we did that could only work in a comic, and were indeed designed to show off the things that comics can do that other media can't."

So, what are we doing making a movie of this?  If you enjoyed the book, do you really think you'll enjoy the movie more?  Is it that you don't have enough time in your busy fat-ass life to read the book?  It has, like, 50 words per page at most, and lots of pictures!

What is the appeal of going to see a movie where they take a comic book and laboriously recreate each frame on screen?  I look at the trailer, and it seems they've done a great job with make-up, costumes, and casting of recreating the looks of the major characters.  But, do you know what does an even better job of getting their looks right?  Yes: Gibbons' careful illustrations in the original book.

If they were to take the same characters and tell a new story with them--a story more suited to film than to the page--then I would understand better.  But this... why this??

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T Slothrop.

Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 11:47:50 PM EST

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Jesus, profwhat, it's a movie based on a comic book for christ's sake.

My fat ass read it just fine, three of four times actually if I recall correctly. I happen to enjoy well-done screen adaptations of good novels be they of the graphic or pure text variety. I'm supposed to apologize for that or feel stupid for liking film versions of novels because you don't like them? Or especially because Alan Moore - extremely, extremely talented yes but known for being a world-class crank and general PITA - says I should worship his take on the story as the only canonical interpretation?

Sorry, my popcorn is getting cold.

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T Slothrop.

Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 11:53:38 PM EST

none

Second line should read " ...three OR four times..."

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delete me.

Sat Aug 23, 2008 at 01:54:07 AM EST

none

Gibbon's artwork looks a little cel-shaded to me.

- derumi (del-me)
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