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Toad Christ -- Art Or Sacrilege?

MayorBob.

Posted to Etcetera on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 06:50:18 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

Is it art or not? That's the eternal question which has greeted such efforts as Fountain by Marcel DuChamp, Piss Christ by Andres Serrano, and so on. Just as it always is, so it goes with a piece hung in a museum in Bolzano, Italy. The art critic assailing the piece does have a certain air of authority about him. But, nevermind, the museum says "meh" to the critic's concerns and that they're going to continue to display the crucified toad.

The art critic is Pope Benedict XVI and he calls the piece, Zuerst die Fuesse (Feet First) blasphemous. Along those lines, his Holiness dashed off a quick note to the Museio demanding that the piece be removed. The piece is the work of the late German artist Martin Kippenberg who was renowned for producing strange and provocative works, some of which are hung in the Saatchi Gallery in London. According to a spokesperson at the Museio, the artist believed the piece "considered it a self-portrait illustrating human angst." Kippenberger created the piece when he was going through detox and felt like he was being crucified.

Au contraire according to the Pope who believed the work was a frontal assault on Christianity. From a letter to Franz Pahl, regional government president, who was the primary mover trying to get the piece removed, the piece "wounds the religious sentiments of so many people who see in the cross the symbol of God's love." Pahl conducted a hunger strike which saw him admitted to a hospital to protest the "perversion of the Christian cross" in a state-funded museum at time when the pope was visiting the area. This all led to a vote by the museum's board on whether or not to continue displaying the work. Prior to the vote, the museum had taken steps to obscure the view of the statue. But Pahl and the opponents wanted nothing less than removal. The museum said it would remain on exhibit until September 21st "to safeguard the autonomy of art institutions." Claudio Strinati, superintendent for Rome's state museums said "art must always be free and the artist should not have any restrictions on freedom of expression."

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Re: Toad Christ -- Art Or Sacrilege?

joshv.

Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 12:26:36 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

Personally I am quite ok with sacrilege.  Gore everyone's sacred cow I say, the more the merrier - but if Piss Christ is ok, we shouldn't be running to the mosques and begging forgiveness every time some Dane publishes an idiotic cartoon.  Perhaps Catholic youths need to start rioting in the streets in response to oeuvres such as "Toad Christ". Catholic priests should start sending death threats and encouraging their youth to blow themselves up at gallery openings.  Maybe then their religious beliefs would be treated with the sensitivity and respect they deserve.

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Re: Toad Christ -- Art Or Sacrilege?

skeptic.

Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 12:48:47 PM EST

none

You do have a point, that whatever we may think of Pope Benedict XVI's reaction to the crucified toad, it is quite mild in comparison to the Muslim reaction to the infamous Danish cartoons, or to "The Satanic Verses" or to various other things that offend their religious sensitivity.

Unfortunately, religion inherently favors extremism.  Those who believe that they are in possession of the ultimate truth about the universe we live in, and that everyone who disagrees with them is necessarily wrong, find it difficult to be tolerant of divergent viewpoints.  Why tolerate something you know to be wrong?  Surely truth is better than error.  That kind of absolutism is only workable in a society in which there is only one religion, such as Europe during the Dark Ages, or Iran at the present.  In modern Italy, this is no longer feasible.  The Pope is no longer the final arbiter of everything.  He still has the authority to rule on matters of Catholic doctrine, but other than that his opinions are not authoritative.  Few people in Europe would really want to return to the Dark Ages.

Religion is a problem in the modern world, and not just for people who may wish to create blasphemous works of art.  Whether the human race will ever attain the maturity needed to deal with this problem, remains to be seen.

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I saw this coming

Lou.

Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 04:20:03 PM EST

5.00 (funny, funny)

I knew the Catholic church would be hopping mad.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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outrage? sacrilege? meh..its shitty derivative art

wetkarma.

Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 08:39:51 AM EST

5.00 (funny, astute, astute)

the nails don't go in the palm of the hand, they go in nearer to the wrist. The fact that they are placed in the palm shows that this work is derivative of prior crucifixion pieces - more embarassingly it conflicts with the rest of the piece..i.e. gripping the mug or the egg.

As to the loincloth - completely and utterly derivative.

This is dreck.

Memory is a strange bell, jubilee and knell.

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Re: outrage? sacrilege? meh..its shitty derivative

Degee.

Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 04:33:17 PM EST

5.00 (interesting, funny)

I hope you are being sarcastic here...if so, then this is directed to the astute up-modders (unless they are being meta sarcastic...then I am going out to burn one) but if not...

" The fact that they are placed in the palm shows that this work is derivative of prior crucifixion pieces - more embarassingly it conflicts with the rest of the piece..i.e. gripping the mug or the egg.

As to the loincloth - completely and utterly derivative."

I assume you mean that prior crucifixion pieces also had nails through the hand and loincloths so now any future piece with nails through the hand etc is "derivative". And the fact that in an empirical world-view, a hand with a nail through it will likely lack the musculature integrity to grip a mug (or whatever you call the "hand" of a toad) creates "conflict".  

That seems to lack nuance. Or maybe I am missing something significant about nails-through-hand-crucifixion semiotics or the need for representations of only empirically possible situations in art .

Am I a great person? Hell no - by most metrics I'm pretty much an asshole. -TSlothrop

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There's art that's not derivative?

JimmyHavok.

Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 03:05:32 AM EST

none

I didn't know that.  Got any links?

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Re: There's art that's not derivative?

delete me.

Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 03:16:10 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

How about this one?

- derumi (del-me)
"Bobby Fischer? Man, that guy is crazy!" - Mike Tyson

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Re: Toad Christ -- Art Or Sacrilege?

Steve Urkel.

Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 05:03:14 PM EST

none

Pahl and journalists are characterizing the contents of the Pope's letter, but other than the quote above, we don't know what it said.

"Kippenberger created the piece when he was going through detox"

Of course.

Kippenberger's froggy is mere stunt, but it does force us to consider that the death of God also means the death of art.

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Simple Sacrilege, or Simply Sacrilicious?

permazorch.

Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 07:11:02 PM EST

none

Well, I clicked the link and I was amused to the point of 2 small chuckles. Thank you, Jesus, Buddha, et alii for the pleasure.

If your god can't take a little ribbing, s/he is a fucking sissy. I'm looking at you, Mo.

----- The earth may burn, but we will quiver

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