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Behold the power of unconfirmed rumor and innuendo

pO157.

Posted to Diary on Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 03:09:40 PM EST. RSS.

Rumor leads to almost all the gas stations in Nashville being pumped dry as panic induces residents to stock up. Drivers were reported to be following gas trucks and lines at the few stations with fuel extended over a mile.

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Re: Rumor

Shy Elf.

Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 07:58:12 AM EST

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"Rumor" huh?  It was very obliging of CNN to print verbatim the propaganda of the Tennessee Petroleum Council that "the phenomenon seemed to be isolated to the Nashville area."  There are shortages everywhere served by the Colonial pipeline, which is most of the Southeast US.

What happened in Nashville is mostly due to a credibility gap.  After hearing government officials (and the Tennessee Petroleum Council) say for over a week that the situation would be fixed real soon now, as gasoline prices continued to rise, and then more and more stations went dry, people decided that they just didn't believe that it was going to be fixed anytime soon, which made a real problem even worse.

With declining petroleum product consumption, there is now a fairly substantial refining capacity excess in the US, even though much of this was shut-in for most of the year due to low refining spreads.  With huge refining spreads and with about half for the refining back online already, we should already be producing enough to keep up with demand, though problems transporting gasoline to the Southeast will continue until even more refineries come back online.

Vulnerability of the US petroleum supply to weather-related disruptions has been somewhat reduced, but if a little supply reduction causes this kind of disruption, just imagine what would happen if we had a real Katrina/Rita type event again.

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pO157.

Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 08:36:07 AM EST

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Vulnerability of the US petroleum supply to weather-related disruptions has been somewhat reduced, but if a little supply reduction causes this kind of disruption, just imagine what would happen if we had a real Katrina/Rita type event again.

And people laugh at one of my golf buddies because he keeps (at least, I don't know the exact number) 12 gas cans filled in his garage at all times. I find this odd because when we had a local disaster a few years ago that resulted in a power outage for about 2 weeks in some areas he was the only one on his block that had electric for the entire time. Yet people still laugh. C'est la vie.

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Gouging

Steve Urkel.

Sun Sep 21, 2008 at 02:07:09 PM EST

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Behold the power of stupid laws:

Following reports of high gas prices in East Tennessee and throughout the state, Attorney General Bob Cooper and Department of Commerce and Insurance Commissioner Leslie Newman Tuesday announced the launch of a joint effort to examine whether certain businesses are engaging in gas price gouging...

 "We are analyzing whether the spike in gasoline prices across Tennessee is the result of price gouging or a reasonable reaction to supply disruptions in the wake of Hurricane Ike," Attorney General Cooper said. "We are concerned with the spike in gasoline prices in the state, and Knoxville, in particular, where gasoline prices are reported to be among the highest in the nation. There is a difference between profits and profiteering." Under Tennessee law, unreasonably raising the price of essential goods, commodities or services in direct response to a natural disaster here or in another state is price gouging. Under Tennessee law, price gougers can be subject to a $1,000 civil penalty for each violation. Price gouging is also a criminal offense in Tennessee.

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Shy Elf.

Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 07:41:39 AM EST

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Trying to make a greater profit than usual in times of a shortage is "price gouging", even in the case where there it is obvious that there are more buyers than sellers.  Yet in exactly the same situation, let the transaction be indexed to a respected, open outcry market, and suddenly the shit of commerce is magically deodorized, and any extra profits are now simply the result of "supply and demand".

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Re: Gouging

Steve Urkel.

Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:40:23 PM EST

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I'm not sure what you mean. What's an "open outcry market"?

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