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Causes and preventing it from happening again

Steve Urkel.

Posted to Diary on Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 06:56:12 PM EST. RSS.

Rethinking capital regulation (pdf).

I haven't read the whole thing yet. One of the interesting things they argue is that there wasn't enough securitization - greedy and stupid banks kept loans on their balance sheets they shouldn't have.

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Re: Causes and preventing it from happening again

joshv.

Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 10:38:22 PM EST

5.00 (interesting, astute, astute)

From the article: "As the housing market deteriorated the perceived risk of mortgage backed securities increased."

This drew me up a bit short.  With the low rate of inflation that has existed over the past decade, a financial instrument that claims to return 12%+/year, reliably, consistently, and with low risk, is a scam, pure and simple.  There are certainly investments that can provide this rate of return, but they are extremely risky - they are called "junk" bonds.  How any of this MBS crap got rated AAA I have no idea - but if you are looking for a proximate cause, look no further than ridiculous ratings given to mortgage backed securities.  

To anybody who's taken finance 101, the sky high returns on these mortgage backed securities should have been a red flag from day one, it shouldn't have taken a deterioration in the housing market to make the market realize that "perceived risk" had increased.

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Re: Causes and preventing it from happening again

Steve Urkel.

Mon Sep 29, 2008 at 12:35:29 PM EST

4.00 (informative)

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Re: Causes and preventing it from happening again

JimmyHavok.

Sun Sep 28, 2008 at 10:41:48 PM EST

none

a financial instrument that claims to return 12%+/year, reliably, consistently, and with low risk, is a scam, pure and simple.

Not least because the transaction they were presumably based on, home mortgages, was not returning anything near that rate.  You're right, didn't anyone think?  It's like the law of conservation of energy: you can't get more out than goes in.

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Re: Causes and preventing it from happening again

Shy Elf.

Mon Sep 29, 2008 at 01:54:02 AM EST

none

AAA 12%+ coupon?

Urban Legend

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Re: Causes and preventing it from happening again

joshv.

Mon Sep 29, 2008 at 07:00:21 AM EST

none

Well, maybe it wasn't that extreme, but there was definitely stuff out there that was highly rated, with exceptionally high returns.  I remember reading accounts of state pension funds buying MBS because they were the only thing out there that produced a high enough return to make up for their past underfunding.  Most pension funds are pretty limited in what they can and cannot buy, so the mortgage backed securities they bought were pretty highly rated.

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More

Steve Urkel.

Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 01:19:57 PM EST

5.00 (brilliant)

I've been under the weather, so I still haven't read the pdf. Here is some more related:

See U. Chicago economist Robert Shimer concise overview of his understand of the problem, and why the Fed bailout won't work right. Read the whole thing.

See also the article Shimer links to, written in part by some of the authors of that pdf, which proposes:

The authorities could require all regulated financial institutions, no matter how well capitalized, to present plans to raise 2% of their assets in additional capital over the next quarter to preserve the stability of the financial system. This increased capital will not represent an increase in the permanent level of required capital for bank holding companies, but instead give institutions the extra capital that will allow them to lend.

Why a mandate? Thus far banks have been urged to voluntarily go out and raise capital, and some, including Goldman Sachs on Wednesday, have. But banks, especially some of the best managed ones, have been hesitant, in part because potential investors might view a bank's approach to the market as reflecting the bank's expectation that it will have to bear additional losses, which will cause them to lose confidence in the bank. The value of mandating this decision is that no individual bank sends an adverse signal to the market when it goes to raise capital.

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zyxwvutsr.

Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:13:58 PM EST

none

...present plans to raise 2% of their assets in additional capital...
How are they going to do that when their stock price is in the toilet and the ratings agencies give their bonds just-above-junk status? I mean, it's no coincidence that Goldman has been the only firm thus far to raise a lot of capital.

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Re: More

Steve Urkel.

Sun Sep 28, 2008 at 02:41:46 PM EST

none

Besides giving investors better terms, like Goldman did, banks have assets they can sell.  

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Shy Elf.

Sun Sep 28, 2008 at 07:28:00 PM EST

none

Selling assets does not in general generate net capital.  With current market conditions, it's much more likely to lose capital.   It's currently doubtful that selling assets will even increase excess regulatory-required net capital, which might well decrease.

Say a bank sells a $200,000 loan for $180,000.  The bank's assets decrease by $200,000.  Its liabilities decrease by $180,000.  Its net capital decreases by $20,000.  Its regulatory-required net capital also decreases by roughly $20,000.  Its excess regulatory-required net capital will be roughly unchanged.

 

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Steve Urkel.

Sun Sep 28, 2008 at 10:06:33 PM EST

none

Many banks are holding MBS that are financed by short term loans, and banks have assets which aren't capitalized on their balance sheets. A mandate would allow them to sell both, as well as cut divedends without the problem of adverse signalling.  

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Re: More

Shy Elf.

Mon Sep 29, 2008 at 12:33:35 AM EST

none

The MBS being financed by short term loans is a bit of a red herring.  Yes, they are financed by short term loans, but in large part the vulnerability to interest rate increases was hedged (although many of the parties providing the hedges are no longer viewed as financially reliable), and even if they are not, the risk is in the wrong direction to cause a problem.  In a recession, interest rates generally drop, causing poorly hedged long term-loans financed with short-term money to make a profit.

I'm afraid you're going to have to explain which "assets which aren't capitalized on their balance sheets" you're talking about.  Everything is supposed to be on the balance sheets, which of course doesn't mean that it is, and I doubt they have much capital left which isn't eligible to be counted in regulatory capital.

The option you raise in #7 is an interesting, but ultimately when the government is actively taking care of the problem, everyone has to raise money anyhow, so the lemons problem isn't much of an issue, at least for raising capital.

Quotes from #10:

Although current concerns focus on liquidity and the credit markets, Merton said, it was essential to note that as too-high housing prices deflated, perhaps $3 trillion to $4 trillion of actual wealth had been lost in the last year alone—and was unlikely to return.

"the basic problem facing the financial system is that lots of people made very big bets that housing prices could not fall 20 percent," despite evidence to the contrary in the Great Depression and more recently in Japan.
This is the elephant in the room which everyone is ignoring.  Ultimately, when the music stops in our current game of financial musical chairs, someone is left holding multiple trillions of dollars in losses, an amount which is continuing to grow housing prices continue to fall.

Nationally housing prices are down nearly 20% already, and still falling.  Consider even normal 20% down, 30-year fixed loans.  Many of these a loans have second mortgage credit lines on them to an additional 15% or so making the loan on the house roughly 115% of its current value, meaning the homeowner can gain 15% of the house's value by defaulting on the loan.  Foreclosures cost the issuer roughly 20% of the loan value, even in cases where the ultimate sale price is equal to or greater to the original value of the loan.  There are huge losses coming even on these "safe" loans.

The only reason we're talking about MBS and the investment banks and not about normal mortgages normal banks is that the accounting rules allow the banks to hide the losses they've taken, while MBS are supposed to have a liquid market.  MBS are going to wind up being the smaller part of the problem.

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zyxwvutsr.

Mon Sep 29, 2008 at 06:49:02 AM EST

none

...banks have assets they can sell
Assets like mortgage-backed securities?

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Causes and worsenings

Steve Urkel.

Sun Sep 28, 2008 at 03:46:46 PM EST

5.00 (astute, informative)

Excerpts from Harvard panel on crisis (Merton, Rogoff, Mankiw) with link to webcast of whole thing.

The Fed's balance sheet.

Economist Casey Mulligan observes:

There are two basic obstacles that Washington might create in this process, both of which are included in the Bernanke-Paulson-Bush proposal. One is to pile on regulation and further impede entry by new firms that might provide financial services to the non-financial sector in the years ahead. The second is to impose a heavy tax burden on the non-financial sector to pay for Wall Street subsidies. The Treasury and the Fed should let Wall Street drown alone, to be replaced by new financial service providers who can swim as robustly as are non-financial American businesses.

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Re: Causes and preventing it from happening again

Shy Elf.

Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 03:07:12 AM EST

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Thank you for posting this interesting link, Steve.

That mortgage originators kept some of the mortgage they originated is in fact the traditional way the industry worked, and is unusual only in comparison to the "originate and distribute" business model they claimed to follow.  In fact this business model was, as is noted elsewhere in the article, in itself a principal cause of the problem, in that it gave originators little incentive to be careful of the quality of the debt they were taking on, since it would soon be out of their hands.

Sections 2-4 of the paper are quite strong, but it really goes of the rails with their proposal to fix things in section 5, which is much less interesting than some of the solutions they reject, such as reverse-convertible bonds, and a time-dependent reserve ratio requirement.  Specifically, their proposal seems rather blase about  the costs of carrying such a huge amount of capital, just to provide capital insurance in times of trouble, does a worse job of minimizing externalized consequences of bank failures than the other proposals, and does little to explore the issue it raises of how to minimize the "governance and internal agency problems" which make additional capital injections above the regulatory minimum so penalized by the market, which doesn't properly reward the additional stability they provide.

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Re: Causes and preventing it from happening again

thefadd.

Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 03:53:17 AM EST

none

I know this is truthout and all that crap but some of the quotes are still very insightful. One of the best (and buried) points that no one seems interested in bringing up yet is that an aggravating factor in this mess is existing regulations. Some current government mandated accounting practices are focused around the win-now obsession of Wall Street that doesn't reflect the reality of long term mortgage investment.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Beware of Zombies

Shy Elf.

Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 08:39:56 AM EST

5.00

Let's say you have a farmer named "John".  John, whose last name is Zombie, operates a dairy company called "Zombie Dairy".  Every day, there are a bunch of people who give John milk, have this milk added to their account, and take milk from John.  People earn interest on their deposits. When John has a lot of milk sitting around, he uses it to buy another cow.  Occasionally, if a lot of people want milk at once, he has to sell a cow to give them their milk back.

People are happy to give John milk, because their deposits are insured by the Federal Dairy Insurance Corporation, which will pay them back even if John somehow manages to go broke.

Zombie Dairy owns 50% of a cow named "Call Me Olive", who cost 40,000 gallons, and who ate an additional 20,000 gallons worth of feed while growing into a milk-producing cow.  However, just yesterday Farmer Brown was walking around town and discovered that recently 1% of Call Me Olive had been sold for only 200 gallons, and that before that 1% of the cow had been sold for 210 gallons.  The problem, he was told was that the cow has dry, empty, flacid, airy, underdeveloped-lactation teat disease.

Zombie Dairy is now in trouble.  The federal dairy regulators demand that the cow be "Marked-to-Market", which means that the cow is now only worth 20,000 gallons.

"Nonsense", says Farmer Brown.  My cost basis is 30,000 gallons.  I've put 30,000 gallons into that cow.  I can't see any disease at all on that cow.  My 50% of that cow is worth 30,000 gallons.

Well, who do you think is right, Farmer John or the Feds?

There's more bad news for Farmer John.  In order to minimize the chance that they will have to pay out, the milk regulators demand that all dairies must keep their cows worth roughly 10% more than the amount of the milk deposits they owe.  Farmer Brown was already at this limit, and since his cows are now worth 20,000 gallons less, he must sell roughly 200,000 gallons worth of cows in order to satisfy the requirements of Federal Dairy Insurance Corporation.  This lowers the price of cows and causes other dairies to also have to sell their cows.

Farmer John has even more problems.  Call Me Olive's sister, Nina, is even sicker.  The Feds, however, don't currently care.  This is because Farmer John owns all of Nina, and hasn't placed any of her on the market recently.  Consequently she has no market price, allowing Farmer John to continue to carry Nina's value on his books as her cost basis.

Farmer John initially reacts with denial.  "My cows aren't sick," he says.  He resents the "unnecessary" intrusion of the government into the operation of his dairy.  Left alone, he says, Call Me Olive would eventually have produced enough to pay back the milk invested in her.  The problem isn't disease, he says, but the stupid government regulations.

However, if Farmer John were to take his cows to market and sell them, the proceeds wouldn't be enough to pay back all of Zombie Dairy's depositors.  In fact, Farmer John doesn't know it, but Zombie Dairy is already dead.

Gradually, as awareness of his plight seeps into Farmer John's consciousness, he realizes that he's in deep trouble.  He passes from denial mode to panic mode.  Farmer John knows that Nina and some of his other cows will soon be so sick that not even the Federal Dairy Insurance Corporation will allow him to carry them on his books at cost basis value.  And he doesn't have any healthy cows left to sell.

So, Farmer John begins buying sicker and sicker cows.  These cows might die, but they might recover.  Farmer John needs to turn a big profit in a hurry, and his only possible way out is to start gambling on sick cows.

When the Feds finally take over Zombie Dairy, their losses are much larger than they would have if they had taken it over earlier, before Farmer John paniced.

Beware of Zombies.

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Re: Beware of Zombies

delete me.

Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 12:25:09 PM EST

none

Do these zombie cows have utters?

- derumi (del-me)
"Bobby Fischer? Man, that guy is crazy!" - Mike Tyson

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I got yer regulations right here:

pO157.

Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 07:52:46 AM EST

none

Piss all your money away or otherwise run your company into the ground? You go out of business and some guy in surplus cammo who smells stale cigarettes auctions off your office furniture. It's called capitalism.

I suppose if you must spend $700B you can just FedEx it to my house.

Spread it on!

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Why We Need a Bailout

Shy Elf.

Sun Sep 28, 2008 at 10:09:31 PM EST

none

Anyone still unclear as to why we need a bailout need only watch this explanation, and everything will become clear.

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Faux Free-Marketism

Shy Elf.

Mon Sep 29, 2008 at 03:08:00 AM EST

none

Why is it that the government needs to buy the most risky loans out there?  Shouldn't they be trying to reduce the risk they take on by owning less risky loans?

The problem for the rest of the economy is that there is a capital shortage amongst thrifts, and that the shortage of capital relative to that required by regulations will lead to thrifts turning down otherwise profitable loans.  But if this is the problem we want to fix, why not fix it directly?   Wouldn't we be better off starting a new bank, using the $700 billion as its capital and making $7 trillion of loans, instead of giving away a large fraction of the cash to the people who got us into the problem in the first place?  Wouldn't our capital be a hell of a lot safer starting a new bank than putting it into defaulted mortgages?

Why is it morally acceptable to those who have been advocates of the ability of the free market to fix all economic problems that the government should come in after the roulette wheel has stopped and bail out corporations who took losses, while it is morally repugnant that the government should engage in normal economic activity when there are no private firms able to do so?

Why is it that, if you go open a margin stock market account, the government will require 50% margin capital, but banks are regulated to require only 10% margin capital (including corporate borrowing and not including safe loans), and investment banks and hedge funds were only required to have 2% margin capital?

The problem we have discovered (and should have predicted) with the Mark-to-Market rule is that, given that many bank assets are highly illiquid (and are more so because of the lemon problem), running a bank with 10% capital like a margin stock account doesn't work.  You take 10% losses selling your assets, so that there is no way to recover by selling assets.  But how is this fixed by eliminating (as is being proposed) the Mark-to-Market rule, which would only hide bad loans and make the thrift's collapse all the bigger when it finally comes?  At least for the illiquid assets, wouldn't we be much better off just forcing a stop to new loans and other risk increases, and slowly unwinding the assets of the thrift has as they mature?

For existing loans, why is it that mortgage companies and MBS partners require that borrowers require payment in full with no modified terms or negotiation from anyone meeting their payments, even from people badly underwater on their house purchase and living in a state where they can just walk away from the mortgage?  Why is it that if you just miss a couple payments, suddenly they will suddenly agree to dramatically lower your payments?  Doesn't this just encourage people to miss payments?

Why is it that even when they do renegotiate payments, they renegotiate only the payment, and capitalize all payment drops, even where the loan is already badly underwater?  Doesn't this just create an even bigger incentive for the borrower to default?

Why is it that we have provided full federal insurance of money market mutual funds, whose owners willingly trade the safety of the regulated banking system for higher returns, but we have yet to fully insure the "low risk" bank deposits themselves?  Why is this type of scenario repeated several more times across different markets?

If the goal of the FDIC is to stabilize financial institutions by preventing bank runs, what is the point of leaving FDIC insurance incomplete so that we still have bank runs like the one which recently took down Washington Mutual?  If the lack of full FDIC insurance is what was responsible for this bank run, what is the point of having FDIC insurance in the first place?  If it's useless for the function for which it was designed, why not just get rid of FDIC insurance?

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