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Jury: Get thee back to Guatemala

pO157.

Posted to Media on Tue Jul 28, 2009 at 08:00:20 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

A jury in Florida has unanimously sided with a hospital in a civil case over an illegal immigrants return to Guatemala. The hospital had cared for a broke illegal immigrant named Luis Jimenez for three years after he was severely injured by a drunk driver. After not being able to find a nursing home that would take him for the rest of his life, due to his immigration status and inability to pay, the hospital instead chartered a $30,000 flight back home to Guatemala, where he resides today.  

Like many illegals, Mr. Jiminez was working as a day laborer. Unfortunately in 2000 a drunk driver crashed a stolen van into him. The insurance company paid out $30,000 in damages but he was left a paraplegic and left with the intelligence of a 4th grader due to neurological damage. Due to federal law that all hospitals accepting Medicare must take care of the indigent until a suitable discharge plan is arranged, and the fact that no facility would take an illegal immigrant who could not pay for lifelong care, Mr. Jiminez became a guest of the Martin Memorial Medical Center for three years, until in July 2003 the hospital, armed with a letter from the Guatamalan government that stated his homeland could take care of Mr. Jiminez, sent the patient home via $30,000 charter flight. The courts eventually ruled that Jiminez should not have been repatriated without his families permission, and that a local judge did not have the authority to okay his transfer, but it was too late. Jiminez was stuck in Guatamala in a one room shack in his mother's village.

His family sued the hospital, claiming it had "illegally detained" Jiminez to get him on the plane. The hospital says Jiminez wanted to go home and that the family should be happy their relative got $1.5 million in free care. The hospital and its trade group agreed, saying that by this point Martin Memorial had become little more than a dormitory: "Hospitals are not intended to become long-term housing," said Linda Quick, president of the South Florida Hospital & Healthcare Association. "The issue is that there are no long-term providers required to take people for whom they know they are not going to be paid."

The hospital was happy with the verdict, although it said something should be done at the federal level to prevent hard cases of disabled illegal immigrants draining millions or more from the system. "We have maintained all along that we acted correctly and, most importantly, in the best interests of Mr. Jimenez," the hospital CEO said, adding "This is not simply an issue facing Martin Memorial. It is a critical dilemma facing health care providers across Florida and across the United States."

Mr. Jiminez's attorneys had demanded cash to cover his lifetime expenses, plus legal damages. They have said they may appeal the jury's verdict.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by pO157, politics, immigration, healthcare (all tags)

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Re: Jury: Get thee back to Guatemala

skeptic.

Tue Jul 28, 2009 at 08:47:33 AM EST

none

While it does seem at least a little odd that a hospital should take it upon itself to deport one of its patients, in effect acting as its own immigration authority, it did make sense to do so in this case.  Had the hospital been an uncaring bureaucracy, they would just have discharged the man and thrown him out on the streets, to fend for himself as best he could (which presumably would not have been very well).  

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Re: Jury: Get thee back to Guatemala

MC Nally.

Tue Jul 28, 2009 at 09:26:26 AM EST

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Don't we (at least in theory) have a federal agency that's supposed to be in charge of removing people who are here in this country illegally?

Mr. Jimenez was presumably easy to locate during the time between his accident in 2000 and Martin Memorial's successful removal of him in 2003.  How is it that la Migra couldn't be bothered to shift its sorry ass to intervene during those years, shifting the burden for Mr. Jimenez' care to the hospital?

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Re: Jury: Get thee back to Guatemala

pO157.

Tue Jul 28, 2009 at 10:29:36 AM EST

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This is kind of what bothers me about most things. There was a recent news article on MSNBC about the "uninsured" in this country. The people they chose to spotlight? A couple of "undocumented" "workers" from Mexico who quite casually admitted they are illegal in the article.

Why has it gotten to the point you can admit you are an illegal immigrant in the mass media and even say your town, etc and not have to worry about being hunted down? It's a disgrace.

Tramps like us, baby we were born to run!

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Re: Jury: Get thee back to Guatemala

zyxwvutsr.

Tue Jul 28, 2009 at 09:41:14 AM EST

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Mr. Jiminez got to go back home to convalesce with his mother rather than spending the rest of his life in a hospital? Sounds like a happy ending for everyone. (Except for his cousin who wanted $1 million.)

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Re: Jury: Get thee back to Guatemala

pO157.

Tue Jul 28, 2009 at 12:45:29 PM EST

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I know the illegals don't set policy in their home country, but had Mr. Jimenez been hit there he probably would have been left outside the hospital or forced to get help from relatives. Guatemala, like most developing nations, has a policy of "Cash on the barrel head" when getting medical care, even if you have insurance. This goes not only for tourists, but locals as well:

MEDICAL INSURANCE: The Department of State strongly urges Americans to consult with their medical insurance company prior to traveling abroad to confirm whether their policy applies overseas and whether it will cover emergency expenses such as a medical evacuation. Please see our information on medical insurance overseas.

Many hospitals in Guatemala require payment prior to treating patients, even if personal insurance will cover the treatment. They do not typically enter into payment plan agreements. Travelers should be aware that they may have to pay in advance and seek reimbursement.

~State Department Guatemala Consular Information Sheet (Emphasis mine)

Perhaps the only problem here is that the hospital had deep pockets for the cousin to try to get into.

Tramps like us, baby we were born to run!

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Re: Jury: Get thee back to Guatemala

port1080.

Tue Jul 28, 2009 at 12:53:50 PM EST

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I'm all for increasing legal immigration, and I'm sympathetic to illegals (most of whom would probably come legally if they could), but at the same time I do think that there should be severe limits on the social services that illegals receive.  In this case, I think the resolution was fairly reasonable, particularly since Guatemala accepted responsibility for the care of its citizen.  If it later backed out, well, that's life.  If Jiminez had immigrated legally, and this had happened, that would be something else entirely.

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