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Ephraim Gadsby.

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Liberals reappraise Clarence Thomas.

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Re: Clarence Thomas may be the Frodo Baggins of th

port1080.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 08:21:07 AM EST

5.00

He's an extreme conservative who always takes extremely conservative positions.  The court has moved right as moderate justices have been replaced with more conservative justices.  Since Thomas was there first, somehow this means the court is moving towards him?  Bizarre.  Yes, the other justices are going to cite his arguments because he made them first, but that doesn't mean he's driving them.  The tilt in the balance came from Bush being able to flip a moderate seats (O'Connor) to a reliable conservative vote.  End of story.  I don't understand the right's desire to rehabilitate Thomas.  It's glaringly obvious that the only reason Bush nominated him was because he was black - this is the sort of racial politics conservatives (including Thomas himself) claim to hate.  I'd find the whole thing hilarious if he wasn't so hellbent on taking the country back to the 18th century.  Perhaps we should re-legalize slavery, too, and put him back to work on the cotton farm.  Original intent, after all.

Allons-y!

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Ephraim Gadsby.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 08:26:14 AM EST

none

Mead and Toobin are liberals.

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port1080.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 10:54:57 AM EST

none

I know, but the blog you linked to was by a conservative reporting on their article.  I simply disagree with Toobin, and I think that he's mistaken in the way he looks at the court and politics in general.  It's a common error among journalists to think that political success = intelligence.  That's an easy way to judge things, but it's false.  Success comes down far more to luck, good timing, and discipline (which is its own kind of intelligence, of course).  This is just as true on the Court as anywhere else...for example, Blackmun was an odd duck and arguably not a very good justice (he let his clerks write a lot of his opinions), but he wrote Roe v. Wade (arguably not a very good opinion), and ended up being hugely influential on the court, due to timing, right place, right time, all that stuff.  

Frankly I don't think there are all that many really great minds on the Court right now...Clinton, Bush and Obama all pressed to find nominees that were both safe choices (no skeletons in their closet) and ideologically certain - nobody wanted another David Souter (or even a Sandra Day O'Connor, for that matter).  So we have a bunch of bland, boring judges who are certainly intelligent (even as I disparage Thomas, I'm not claiming he's an idiot - I just don't think he deserves accolades), but aren't any great shakes.  I'd put Thomas on about the same level as Sotomayor (and if things go a certain way over the next decade and the court tips liberal again, and twenty years down the road people start saying how Sotomayor was an influential justice that started the wave towards a more liberal court, I'll say they're just as foolish) - competent enough for the job, but clearly wasn't the best available candidate and was simply nominated because she (he) could be confirmed, and because she (he) was the right minority.

Allons-y!

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Ephraim Gadsby.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 10:59:38 AM EST

none

Mead is a liberal.

I don't get the sense you've ever read any of Thomas's opinions.

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port1080.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 11:17:36 AM EST

none

So blacks are capable of being intelligent, as long as their opinions are in concert with yours?

Allons-y!

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Ephraim Gadsby.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 11:24:57 AM EST

none

I find Thomas a competent judge.

Many times in the past I've discussed race and intelligence. It's sort of disappointing to learn what I wrote went over your head.

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port1080.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 11:28:07 AM EST

none

I don't think our actual beliefs on race and intelligence are all that far apart.  What we believe are the just and practical implications of that, on the other hand, are quite different.

Allons-y!

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HidingFromGoro.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 12:31:23 PM EST

none

I don't think our actual beliefs on race and intelligence are all that far apart.

lol what

I got more styles than prison got bricks- ain't that some shit?

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Fractals!

Acefantastik.

Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 02:48:27 PM EST

none

Hey dude, its not port1080's fault Asians are good at math and negros like to dance.  Science, you know?  

White people, on the other hand, are inherently criminal.   You'd think 1000 years of recorded European history would be enough anecdote to serve as proof.    

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Jackkeefe.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 09:45:16 AM EST

none

It's glaringly obvious that the only reason Bush nominated him was because he was black

It's glaringly obvious our President was only elected because he is black.  Why should that matter in discussing his performance?  Strange how its always about race with some people.

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port1080.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 11:12:07 AM EST

none

Why should that matter in discussing his performance?

Because he's a hypocrite - he spends significant time arguing that we should be race blind when it's obvious that is exactly why he got the job.  This leads conservatives to feel the need to argue he's the best justice since sliced bread, because if they can't believe that, then it becomes painfully obvious they just engaged in the same kind of identity politics they love to rag on liberals about.  Thomas is competent to be on the court (as you pointed out below, the court has had a lot of less than great jurists on it, he certainly isn't the worst of the pack), but he's not a John Marshall or an Oliver Wendell Holmes - he's simply a justice.  What I find most troubling about him is that his decisions seem to unfailingly uphold (political) conservative principles - Scalia, at least, will occasionally rule against them when he feels his judicial philosophy leads him in that direction.  Thomas will find a way to make the decision fit the results he wants, regardless.  In that sense I guess he is a leader, since we see that more and more from both sides of the Court.  I'm not sure if it's because the vetting process has changed, or simply because the lines became so hardened due to Roe, but I don't think we'll be seeing much nuance from Court nominees over the next few decades.  The days of line-crossing justices like Byron White or Sandra Day O'Connor (or Anthony Kennedy, for that matter) are done for now.

Allons-y!

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Ephraim Gadsby.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 11:29:03 AM EST

none

Thomas is right to place adherence to Constitutional principle above his personal experience.

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Jackkeefe.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 03:57:02 AM EST

none

So you are basically making the Rush Limbaug/ Donovan McNabb argument.  Luckily, I'm a far more tolerant type of person than many of your liberal bretheran, many of whom are no doubt calling for Congress right now to take you off the internet for daring to suggest that a black person's reputation can be artifically inflated because of his race.  Daring to voice such an opinion makes you more racist than David Duke.

the greatest justice since sliced bread, because if they can't believe that, then it becomes painfully obvious they just engaged in the same kind of identity politics they love to rag on liberals

That ranks up there with one of the best false choices I've seen.  I think most conservatives have no problem admitting the obvious, that he got the job tbecause politics dictated it.  Being a Supreme Court justice is one of the most intensely political jobs in the Country and politics have always played a role
in who gets on the bench.  It's never been a collection of the nine best legal minds in the country, no matter how some romantize the Court.  Race keeps people off the bench, hello Miguel Estrada, and puts others on it. When the dominate theory of jurisprudence believes that the Constituition is a living document that means whatever 5 justices claims it means on that particular day, the politicization of the Supreme Court isn't going to change anytime soon.

The point that liberals like Toobin is belatedly recognizing is not that Thomas is the best judge ever, it's that he is not Scalia's clone and actually has a pretty unique and compelling voice on the Court. For years, elite media has portrayed him as an moronic Uncle Tom incapbale of exercising any indepence from ScaIia.  

And I would disagree, I think Scalia is more likely to bend his thinking to come up with the "conservative" position on an issue than Thomas.  From what I've seen, Thomas is about as consistent in applying his principles no matter the outcome. Look at Raich or Wyeth.

     

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ThePlague.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 08:01:47 AM EST

none

It's been my observation that liberals will turn on one of their "own" (in the race/gender-identity sense) with a vigor and viciousness that would make the stereotypical knuckle-dragging conservative blush.  As additional proof, I offer the shameful treatment of Hilary Clinton in 2008, Alan Keyes even further back, Juan Williams last year, and Palin and Bachman more recently.  I saw an article complete with slideshow criticizing and finding "political insight" from Bachman's choice of footwear of all things.  Way to breakthrough the stereotypes, guys.

the secret to happiness is to have you pay for my cocaine and mountain climbing-p0157

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You're More More Masturbator Than Mastermind

keta.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 08:22:34 AM EST

1.00 (canadian)

Golly gee, that's right!  Why not a soul on the right has ever criticized Palin or Bachmann!

And the collective right absolutely adores George W. Bush!  Why, his name and legacy are evoked at every opportunity!

Those righties, boy, they stick together!  Even if one of their own is the most obvious moron in the history of Moronville.  Not like them other folks!

(I await your insightful reply, DerPlaguenPuller; I know how important it is to you that you get in the last tug.)

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Re: You're More More Masturbator Than Mastermind

ThePlague.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 09:36:51 AM EST

none

Of course some elements of the right (by some definition) have criticized both Palin and Bachman, and deservedly so.  That's not the issue.  It's the type of criticism that is common to all the names I listed, vicious personal attacks, as well as mischaracterizations of positions that border on fabrication.  But even putting that aside, some of them are so frivolous as to be laughable.

the secret to happiness is to have you pay for my cocaine and mountain climbing-p0157

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Re: You're More More Masturbator Than Mastermind

keta.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 09:56:55 AM EST

none

That is laughable.  As is your contention that this buffoonery isn't practiced by the right.

And who do you think has been the number one target for the past two-plus years when it comes to "vicious personal attacks, as well as mischaracterizations of positions that border on fabrication"?  

You're a bright guy.  I'm sure you'll get this one.

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Re: You're More More Masturbator Than Mastermind

ThePlague.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 10:07:33 AM EST

none

Yes, because a post (without picture) about a grown man wearing a bike helmet and a wardrobe malfunction (with pics!) is perfectly equal to a 8 picture slideshow of shoes.  Surely you can get better examples than that?  Perhaps some misspellings on signs at a Tea Party rally?

the secret to happiness is to have you pay for my cocaine and mountain climbing-p0157

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You ARE More More Masturbator Than Mastermind!

keta.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 10:39:07 AM EST

1.00 (canadian)

Are you serious?  Really?  You're now arguing the degrees of fucking stupidity based on the number of photos in a fucking slideshow?

I also notice you didn't answer the easiest question in the history of this web site.  I hereby retract my statement that, "you're a smart guy."  You may very well be, but it's impossible to ascribe when you continue to post imbecilic inanities and think them aphoristic gems.

Good day sir.

 

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Re: You ARE More More Masturbator Than Mastermind!

ThePlague.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 11:24:27 PM EST

none

Based on the recent sub, it may be Bachman.  Although, Obama has gotten as well with false claims he hasn't raised taxes or that he even remotely cares about ending the wars or civil liberties.  I also notice you failed to explain the vicious attacks by Democrats on Hillary Clinton in 2008, or Alan Keyes, or the current ones on Clarence Thomas.

the secret to happiness is to have you pay for my cocaine and mountain climbing-p0157

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Re: You ARE More More Masturbator Than Mastermind!

keta.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 05:03:49 AM EST

1.00 (canadian)

Good grief you're thick.

Look, I really think you and JackoCrease should huddle.  Perhaps between you an actual thought might be borne.  (Note the "perhaps.")  

Oh, and show your work.

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improper.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 06:20:38 AM EST

none

A grown man, who happens to be POTUS and is a huge example of children. Of course Bush never wore a bicycle helmet as a grown man: http://media.photobucket.com/image/bush%20helmet%20bicycle/ikbob/Bush_Bike.jpg

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improper.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 06:18:02 AM EST

none

Just curious, how do you know the female writers of that piece are liberals?

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improper.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 06:16:49 AM EST

none

Wait, so if someone is a minority or a woman, Liberals automatically can not criticize them or their positions?

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Funny Is Where Funny Found

keta.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 08:06:31 AM EST

1.00 (canadian)

Luckily, I'm a far more tolerant type of person than many of your liberal bretheran, many of whom are no doubt calling for Congress right now to take you off the internet for daring to suggest that a black person's reputation can be artifically inflated because of his race.

You make a claim and then instantly refute it...all in the same sentence!  Nice work, mister!

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Re: Funny Is Where Funny Found

Jackkeefe.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 12:25:46 PM EST

none

You make a claim and then instantly refute it...all in the same sentence

Please enlighten me..

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Re: Funny Is Where Funny Found

keta.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 04:59:25 AM EST

none

Your claim of being tolerant is instantly dashed by what follows.

If you're still unclear, get DerPlaguenPoopy to explain it to you.  And please share the resultant mental wrestling. Because a meeting of your two minds would be entertainment ne plus ultra.

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Re: Funny Is Where Funny Found

Jackkeefe.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 06:46:35 AM EST

none

What in that sentence is an example of not being tolerant?

P.S. I assume English is your first language but I have my doubts.  I don't want to make fun of you if you are working with some sort of handicap, as you appear to be.  

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Re: Funny Is Where Funny Found

keta.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 07:15:56 AM EST

none

You can't spell, you can't write, and you can't parse a sentence.  

Fuck you're entertaining.  

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Re: Funny Is Where Funny Found

Jackkeefe.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 08:21:10 AM EST

none

I'll take that as an admission of defeat. Thanks for coming out.

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buffalopete.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 02:16:39 PM EST

none

Are we seriously still making David Duke references?

Buffalo Pete: Raving batshit loony? Or HOPE FOR MAN???
(I may be that guy.)

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Jackkeefe.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 03:02:02 PM EST

none

I suppose I should use a more current racist.  Sub in Jeremiah Wright.

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improper.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 06:23:57 AM EST

none

Oh is Jeremiah Wright a Tea Partier now?

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improper.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 06:15:09 AM EST

none

Luckily, I'm a far more tolerant type of person than many of your liberal bretheran, many of whom are no doubt calling for Congress right now to take you off the internet for daring to suggest that a black person's reputation can be artifically inflated because of his race.  Daring to voice such an opinion makes you more racist than David Duke.

There's a difference between 1) a black person getting a job based on merit and the racist demeaning his accomplishment by saying he was given the job based on his race (Obama) vs. 2) acknowledging that a political appointment was made based on race (Thomas). Obama was elected, Thomas was nominated, to very different things.

...actually has a pretty unique and compelling voice on the Court. For years, elite media has portrayed him as an moronic Uncle Tom incapbale of exercising any indepence from ScaIia.

You didn't say that with a straight face did you? LOL Thomas portrays himself like that.

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zyxwvutsr.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 11:59:05 AM EST

none

Because he's a hypocrite - he spends significant time arguing that we should be race blind when it's obvious that is exactly why he got the job
I doubt you can explain why you believe that is hypocritical. Feel free to prove me wrong.

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port1080.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 06:19:03 AM EST

none

He took the job, didn't he?  It may be justifiable hypocrisy, but it's still hypocrisy.

Allons-y!

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redshift.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 09:04:24 AM EST

none

Let's presume that I consistently state that it is immoral for people to be forced to open the door for those with brown eyes, and that I have brown eyes.

If, then, someone not under threat of legal punishment opens the door for me, should I assume the action is influenced by my eye color and refuse to enter?  

It seems by your logic that a brown-eyed person must either support compelled door opening, refuse to enter the door, or be accused of hypocrisy.  

There ain't no good guy. There ain't no bad guy. There's only you and me and we just disagree - Jim Krueger

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port1080.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 10:25:44 AM EST

none

If, then, someone not under threat of legal punishment opens the door for me, should I assume the action is influenced by my eye color and refuse to enter?

Bush was certainly under threat of political punishment if he hadn't nominated Thomas.

Allons-y!

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redshift.

Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 04:52:12 AM EST

5.00 (astute)

How can an African American with his views ever accept any political job under your system of logic?

There ain't no good guy. There ain't no bad guy. There's only you and me and we just disagree - Jim Krueger

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port1080.

Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 08:42:29 AM EST

none

Admittedly, they can't.  To be consistent, you'd have to fight for race-blind selection standards from outside of government.  This isn't an absurd position to take - certainly there have been many activists over the years who have turned down offers of government positions because they didn't want to be co-opted by or become complicit in the system.

Allons-y!

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port1080.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 10:26:25 AM EST

none

(by Thomas, I mean, an African-American nominee)

Allons-y!

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zyxwvutsr.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 11:47:43 AM EST

none

Yet you cannot explain how it is hypocrisy.

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We're voting for the nigger

Acefantastik.

Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 02:45:28 PM EST

none

It's glaringly obvious our President was only elected because he is black.

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or just trying to tweak port1080 for his comment, but since no one else here has bothered to refute this,  allow me:

Barack Obama was elected president of the United States because the previous Bush/Cheney administration was so goddamn loathed by the electorate that any Democrat would have won the 2008 election, no matter the color of their skin, their gender, or their general incompetence and smarmy loathsomeness.  

It isn't because he was black, it was because he wasn't a fucking Republican.   The end.

Strange how its always about race with some people.

True conservatives don't really care about race.  Its the pissypants rightwingers who are insecure about their failures in life who tend to get wound up about darkie "threatening" them.  Since I've been in Alaska, I've noticed that local conservatives don't really care about who is white or not.  Its the self-identified rightist partisans who are more likely to bring Obama's race into a discussion.  As if being black makes him a bad president.

Hint: He's a terrible president because he's a liar, a hypocrite, and a sellout, not because he's half black. Grumbling about his race is a canard and it says more about the crybaby complaining about him than it does about Obama.    

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Re: We're voting for the nigger

Jackkeefe.

Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 06:00:12 AM EST

none

No shit any Democrat would have won in 2008. Where did I say otherwise?  
No white man with his resume would ever have been nominated for President, or Senator, or possibly even gotten into Harvard in the first place.

Hint: He's a terrible president because he's a liar, a hypocrite, and a sellout, not because he's half black

No kidding.  Thanks for reinforcing my point that race is irrelevant when discussing someone's shortcomings.  Port brought up race, not me.  

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Re: We're voting for the nigger

Acefantastik.

Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 07:12:34 AM EST

5.00

No white man with his resume would ever have been nominated for President, or Senator, or possibly even gotten into Harvard in the first place.

Horseshit:  The so called "legacy" system has worked in America for decades:  It ensures that  incompetent children of rich white people are accepted into universities they are too stupid to attend and at professional sector positions they are unqualified to hold.  Dozens of white men with terrible resumes have been nominated for President, hundreds for Senator, and tens of thousands accepted into Harvard.   Trying to pass if off like Obama is some sort of magic black man who is only where he is because of reverse racism is asinine, and your attempt to grouse that a white guy never would have caught a break like that indicates you are either completely and willfully ignorant of how America functions, or you have let the frustrations you have with Obama's politics take on an ugly racist dynamic.  My guess is a bit of both.  

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Re: We're voting for the nigger

Jackkeefe.

Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 07:50:12 AM EST

none

Trying to pass if off like Obama is some sort of magic black man who is only where he is because of reverse racism is asinine

Nothing in your irrelevant rant disputes the point that Obama's blackness was pivotal in getting him to where he is.  Pointing out that some rich white guys also get preferential treatment doesn't mean Obama didn't.  

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Re: We're voting for the nigger

Acefantastik.

Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 10:04:16 AM EST

none

Nothing in your irrelevant rant disputes the point that Obama's blackness was pivotal in getting him to where he is.

Fine, I'll dispute it:  Obama is where he is because he's a nominally intelligent, smooth talking, articulate, savvy politician who has made the right friends and said the "safe" things from his university admission interview and ever since.  I don't believe his skin color has a goddamn thing to do with his rise, rather, I think it was because his ambitions and the way he modeled himself were completely conventional and mainstream. You can quibble all you like about non-issues like Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers, but the truth of the matter is that Obama's political acumen and his active choices would have benefited a white person exactly as well.   Its not as if he's the first politician elected who has associated with weirdos and dirtbags.  

If you don't like his politics, fine:  I don't either.  But ascribing any sort of special treatment to a clearly intelligent, successful, and politically savvy person to race is complete bullshit:  He's a winner because he played the game by the existing rules, not because the game's rules were changed to give him a boost.  

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Ephraim Gadsby.

Mon Sep 05, 2011 at 06:20:35 PM EST

none

Can you name a President with a resume as thin as Obamas? Besides benefiting from affirmative action, Obama's blackness was a significant reason people voted for him. Were you living in a cave during the campaign? For blacks, it was racial solidarity, for whites, it was the "chance to make history", and atone for all that white supremacy stuff. For jews, it was a chance to stick to whites. I also get the sense that many whites thought electing Obama would inspire his unruly brethren to behave better. Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright should have been bigger issues. He lied about his relationship to both.

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Re: We're voting for the nigger

Acefantastik.

Mon Sep 05, 2011 at 06:49:18 PM EST

none

Can you name a President with a resume as thin as Obamas?

Yes. This one didn't even graduate college!  

Besides benefiting from affirmative action,

Or he was just clever.  It happens.  

Obama's blackness was a significant reason people voted for him.

As I've pointed out, any Democrat, including Jimmy Carter running for his allowable second term, would have won in 2008.  And he beat a smarmy adulterer and a smarmy adulterer's wife in a primary.  Yawn.  Leftists didn't flock to Mckinney for being black, nor did Alan Keyes make any traction at his GOP attempt.   You see people voting for him because he's half black, and I see people voting for him and they don't give a shit he's half black, they were willing to subjugate their racism to vote for the new guy.

I also get the sense that many whites thought electing Obama would inspire his unruly brethren to behave better.

If it doesn't work for Texans, it won't work on negroes.  White people are fucking retarded!

He lied about his relationship to both.

Who fucking cares?  Those two dweebs have no power to make my life any worse, or better for that matter.  I suspect the same is true for you.  

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Ephraim Gadsby.

Mon Sep 05, 2011 at 07:08:54 PM EST

none

Truman had far more political experience than Obama. The Harding comparison isn't bad.

Obama's admitted to benefiting from affirmative action. He's never struck me as terribly clever.

The reason I think people voted for him because he was black was because numerous people said that was why they were doing it.

The connection to Ayers in Wright goes beyond who they are, it's the manipulation of reality that was perpetrated.

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improper.

Tue Sep 06, 2011 at 02:49:20 AM EST

none

Even if some people voted for him because he was black, it's just like people voting for Bush because he was evangelical. In that way, it sucks for Huntsman and Romney who automatically take hits for being Mormon.

Something tells me that not many minorities strike you as being clever.

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Re: We're voting for the nigger

Ephraim Gadsby.

Tue Sep 06, 2011 at 05:08:49 AM EST

none

It's a fact many supported him for being black. I find it odd Obama supporters are denying that now. No one denies Bush got votes for being evangelical.

Obama's adoring fans and the media (I repeat myself) wildly exaggerated his intellect.

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Re: We're voting for the nigger

Jackkeefe.

Tue Sep 06, 2011 at 03:07:32 AM EST

none

Harding's resume blows Obamas out of the water.  Harding, unlike Obama, demonstrated the ability to hold a full time job for more than four years before running for President.  

Harding ran a sucessful business (newspaper publisher), served in leadership positions in both the executive and legislative branchs of the Ohio state goverment and served as US. Senator.

Obama was a failed community organizer whose only accomplishment as a back bencher in the Illinois House of Reps consisted of voting present an ungodly amount of times.  

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Jackkeefe.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 09:36:10 AM EST

4.00 (showered)

Liberals treatment of Thomas embodies just how  their obsession with race  fucks up their perception of reality.   Thomas is one of the more innovative  thinkers on the court over the last 50 years yet liberals ir default position is too call him Scalia's parrot because they apparently don't believe black people are capable of independent thought.  They kept up this line of attack  even though significant differences in their jurisprudence made themselves apparent from the beginning of Thomas's tenure.   Granted this latent racism led to some funny moments, like when Harry Reid embarrassed himself by being completely unable to substantiate his claim that Thomas' opinions were "poorly written," but it reflects poorly on liberals ability to comprehend that race doesn't control how one thinks.  To the average liberal, Good blacks  ape their white bettors and tow the line that they  prescribed for them.

Juxtapose their baffling belittlement of Thomas with their lionization of the man he replace, Thurgood Marshall. As Bob Woodward amply demonstrated in the Brethren, Marshall was a lazy justice who only evinced an interest in watching the porn tapes the court reviewed for obscenity issues.  If titties weren't on the menu, the sum of Marshall's involvement consisted of instructing  his clerks to follow Justice Brennan's lead in all things.  court insiders referred to them as Justice Brennan-Marshall because Marshall did nothing on his own.

Liberals of course continue to mythologize one of the worst justices ever while continuing to dehumanize and stereotype an actual judicial standout.   I guess Thomas needs to learn  there is no place for a thinking black man in the liberal's world

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keta.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 10:00:12 AM EST

3.00 (canadian, golden)

...Good blacks  ape their white bettors and tow the line that they  prescribed for them.

This line is golden...and not in a good way.

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Jackkeefe.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 12:24:29 PM EST

none

By cutting out the preceeding four words, you miss the point.  

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buffalopete.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 02:12:08 PM EST

none

"Bettors?" That's not right, is it?

/puzzled

Buffalo Pete: Raving batshit loony? Or HOPE FOR MAN???
(I may be that guy.)

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HidingFromGoro.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 10:31:05 AM EST

none

he's ESL I think

I got more styles than prison got bricks- ain't that some shit?

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MC Nally.

Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 01:57:57 PM EST

none

"Bettors?" That's not right, is it?
Only if you're wagering on them.

If you want to get picky "tow the line" is also wrong, another homophone misusage which reveals a pretty basic misunderstanding of what the phrase actually means.

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buffalopete.

Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 03:06:38 AM EST

none

I knew "tow" was wrong, but I wasn't as sure about "bettor."

Buffalo Pete: Raving batshit loony? Or HOPE FOR MAN???
(I may be that guy.)

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improper.

Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:20:35 AM EST

none

Worst part is the guy probably spent 2 hours typing that up in MS Word.

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port1080.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 01:19:15 AM EST

5.00 (spoiled)

...also, odd analogy since ultimately Frodo failed.  If Gollum hadn't bit off his finger he'd have kept the ring and all would have been lost.  So basically, it really was a stupid plan, only saved by blind luck in the end.  Which I guess makes it a pretty good analogy for relying on Clarence Thomas to be your intellectual leader - bad idea, if it works out it's due to luck, nothing more.

Allons-y!

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ThePlague.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 10:22:14 AM EST

none

Well, the ring was destroyed, and the strong implication is that no one else could have gotten it to Mount Doom without succumbing to its power .  Gandalf wouldn't touch it and Boromir was driven mad with desire for it without ever even touching it.  So, while certainly not a great plan, it was the best of the available options.

the secret to happiness is to have you pay for my cocaine and mountain climbing-p0157

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joshv.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 10:08:08 PM EST

none

Never understood why Gandalf couldn't have just flown Frodo to Mount Doom on the back of one of those Great Eagles.

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ThePlague.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 11:27:58 PM EST

none

A LOTR geek explained that to me once.  His claim was that it was a combination of the eagles wanting absolutely nothing to do with the ring under any circumstances and not wanting to be the Middle Earth taxi service.

the secret to happiness is to have you pay for my cocaine and mountain climbing-p0157

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port1080.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 11:52:51 PM EST

none

Presumably Sauron would have noticed and sent up the Nazgul to attack them...harder to go unnoticed flying about the sky than skulking on the ground.

Allons-y!

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