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Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One Day

The Welcome Rain.

Posted to Politics on Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 07:08:06 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

Did Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker father an illegitimate child in 1989?  That's the claim made by an article published by the Wisconsin Citizens Media Co-op:


Bernadette Gillick was a college freshman in 1988 when she first met Scott Walker. It was spring semester, and she had just transferred to Marquette University. She was assigned a room in O'Donnell Hall (then a women's dormitory), which she shared with her new roommate, Ruth (not her real name). Ruth was dating Scott Walker, who was 20 at the time, and, according to Bernadette, Ruth was deeply in love with him.

Midway through that spring semester, Bernadette alleges, Ruth found out she was pregnant. She informed her boyfriend, Scott, and initially he was supportive. That support changed to callous indifference for his girlfriend's predicament after Scott informed his parents of the pregnancy.


What a calamity for Walker, on the very eve of his probable victory in a recall election!  What remarkable timing!

...yeah, you see it coming:  It was all a bunch of crap, as exposed by Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Online reporter Daniel Bice:

Two things: (1) I tracked down and talked to Dr. Gillick's freshman-year roommate at MU yesterday, and she adamantly denies that Walker is the father of her child. Yes, she got pregnant as a first-year student, but she believes Dr. Gillick is mixing up stories; and (2) I Can Read CCAP has taken a family court suit involving Scott Alan Walker and mixed it up with the governor, Scott Kevin Walker.

How desperate is the anti-Walker camp at this point?  Are they afraid their imminent failure is a bellwether for the November elections?  Does the Wisconsin Citizens Media Co-op's rationale for publishing the article stand up to scrutiny?

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

port1080.

Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 09:22:51 AM EST

none

Two things here - was this a legitimate story, and did the Media Co-Op do enough due diligence before reporting it? As to the second, clearly not - "Lamestream" media wins again. As to the first - I think that if it had been true, it's a legit story to cover, particularly from a candidate that talks about family values and courts voters to whom such things are supposedly important. I'd put it up there with the media coverage of Obama's "Choom Gang" hot boxing a VW Bus in Hawaii - valid to cover, but something that voters may or may not give a shit about.

Allons-y!

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

The Welcome Rain.

Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 11:19:16 AM EST

none

Another issue:  Did the original article have enough substantiation to publish?

I'd say the word of someone's college roommate, unsupported by anything but a half-assed records lookup, wouldn't have met the standards of any legitimate publication.

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

port1080.

Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 11:38:20 AM EST

5.00 (kindly)

I agree - that's what I meant when I said "did [they] do enough due diligence?" Not trying to be snarky, but what did you think I meant by that? I've been known to use phrases innapropriately, but I think that means what I think it means.

Allons-y!

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

zyxwvutsr.

Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 12:00:58 PM EST

none

What "due diligence"? The organization exists for the sole purpose of inventing anti-Walker propaganda and hanging it from whatever thin reed they can find. It is a fundamentally disingenuous pursuit; due diligence would be counterproductive.

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

The Welcome Rain.

Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 03:01:34 PM EST

none

Um, yes, that is indeed what you said.  Maybe I should learn to read.  Sigh.

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

stevetherobot.

Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 09:37:02 AM EST

none

Put me in the 'doesn't give a shit' category.

It's idiotic to judge someone today over something they did almost a quarter of a century ago.

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

The Welcome Rain.

Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 10:35:22 PM EST

none

And even worse to judge them over something they didn't do.

I do feel free to judge the people who pushed the idea that he did, since they pulled that stunt just a couple of days ago.

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

improper.

Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 09:45:56 AM EST

none

Koch brothers probably paid for the abortion.

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

zyxwvutsr.

Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 10:07:14 AM EST

none

The Wisconsin Citizens Media Co-op is a non-profit organization dedicated to creating and spreading anti-Scott Walker propaganda.

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

improper.

Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 11:25:21 AM EST

none

Scott Walker supporter steals cleat given by Donald Driver from small boy at charity event.

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

Gaius Petronius.

Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 02:03:41 PM EST

none

I think the technical term here is a Roorback, a defamatory (and probably false) rumor about a candidate released on the eve of an election. I first saw it in William Safire's Political dictionary, but the term has been around since the election of James Polk in 1844. The good tricks never go out of date.

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Shouldn't look back

Ephraim Gadsby.

Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 03:34:56 PM EST

none

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Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore

Haggis.

Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 04:17:38 PM EST

none

Your link led me to this wonderful recording:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxXPONMYPi8&feature=relmfu

Just beautiful.

I am shitfitter; hear me roar.

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BREAKING NEWS: Alot of freebies

Ephraim Gadsby.

Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 03:21:10 PM EST

none

CALLER MIKE is reporting Greyhound size buses, filled to capacity, with a good amount of "freebies" available:

They treated me to lunch!

It's four buses total.

We're going to Wisconsin. We're from Michigan. Right outside Detroit and... they got four buses up here, Chris. I dont know if they got other buses coming from other directions but it's four buses and we're going to Wisconsin to vote.

Most of them are Democrat..it's a Democratic union..its actually a Democratic union organized by Democrats.

I drive tractor trailer. I told you..I drive tractor trailer...

Lets just say my uncle works for a union out here, at the Chrysler plant.

They have alot freebies on this... alot of freebies with this deal. Alot of freebies.

They're just charter buses.  They're big, black with gray lines on the side. Charter buses.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Alot of freebies

Jackkeefe.

Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 03:56:48 PM EST

none

Unions are stepping up their game. Usually they just bribe homless people with cigarettes in Wisconsin.   http://cnsnews.com/node/26533

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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Alot of freebies

Ephraim Gadsby.

Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 05:35:00 PM EST

none

"Vice President Gore supplied homeless voters with packs of cigarettes"

That's the nicest thing he's ever done.

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

gerrymander.

Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 09:37:42 PM EST

none

50% of votes reported at 90 minutes past Wisconsin poll closing, and Walker is leading by more votes than Milwaukee had voters in 2008.

It's all over but the shouting.

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The Welcome Rain.

Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 10:22:57 PM EST

none

The god of ass-beatery sure got in his licks tonight.  The 50-50 line was at a five-point spread, and Walker is actually beating Barrett by over double that.  I wish I'd put money down on 10%, but I wasn't sure how much cheating the Democrats could pull off this time.

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Jackkeefe.

Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 10:28:23 PM EST

none

11% points up with 75% counted.  An epic disaster for labor.  

But it was a good night for Obama, at least according to NBC.  

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

The Welcome Rain.

Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 10:34:05 PM EST

none

How the hell do they figure that?

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

Jackkeefe.

Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 11:24:30 PM EST

none

They were citing early exit polls that projected a 50 50 tie that contained favorable reelection numbers for Obama. David Axelrod claimed the results in Wisconsin created a huge problem for Romney and the his  at NBC and abc ran with his what should have been an obviously weak attempt at spin.

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

The Welcome Rain.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 01:06:42 AM EST

none

So they're extrapolating from their Walker exit polls, which were clearly bullshit, to draw conclusions about another race that wasn't even happening?  And if the Walker exit polls were biased toward Democrats, what's that say about the Obama poll results?

Were they trying for some kind of "double bullshit" award?

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zyxwvutsr.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 06:59:30 AM EST

none

An epic disaster for labor
Consider how far they'd already fallen that, for example, teachers and nurses are considered "labor."

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Gaius Petronius.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 02:35:25 PM EST

none

The outlook for labor is even worse than losing the election might suggest. Even progressive stalwarts like MSNBC's Ed Show admit that membership in major government worker unions like AFSCME in Wisconsin has dropped by half in the last year. (look at the second graph) In other states that have stopped automatic union dues deductions from civil servant's paychecks, workers are simply not paying. The people are voting with their feet.

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zyxwvutsr.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 02:46:45 PM EST

none

The persistence of union shops only occurs by government intervention.

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HidingFromGoro.

Fri Jun 08, 2012 at 12:32:15 AM EST

none

What do you consider "labor?"

You might be closer to the truth than you think!

I got more styles than prison got bricks- ain't that some shit?

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

zyxwvutsr.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 07:09:00 AM EST

none

The unions lost on May 8th when their candidate was defeated in the primary:

"Let's face it -- I wasn't the candidate for the public unions," Barrett announced proudly last week during his second televised debate against Walker. "I wasn't their candidate in the primary."

Barrett defeated the labor movement's preferred candidate, former Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk, in the May primary. Falk had pledged to veto the next state budget unless it restored public employees' collective-bargaining rights. Barrett refused to commit to such a maneuver, although he supports restoring collective-bargaining rights using other tactics.

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improper.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 10:11:38 AM EST

none

More moderates voted for Barrett and also just about all blacks voted for Barrett: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/06/05/us/politics/wisconsin-recall-exit-polls.html

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

The Welcome Rain.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 09:11:39 PM EST

none

Turns out there are a lot more conservatives than liberals, even in a blue state like Wisconsin.

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

redshift.

Thu Jun 07, 2012 at 11:24:55 AM EST

1.00 (persnickety)

Well, there were definitely a lot more conservatives than liberals voting in that election.  

The link doesn't give the data on overall makeup of the population of Wisconsin.  It's still possible your statement is correct, but it's not supported by the link in the post to which you responded.  

There ain't no good guy. There ain't no bad guy. There's only you and me and we just disagree - Jim Krueger

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

The Welcome Rain.

Fri Jun 08, 2012 at 12:08:27 AM EST

none

I'm glad you also corrected improper''s original post.  OH WAIT

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

redshift.

Mon Jun 18, 2012 at 02:22:52 PM EST

none

His post was about the voters.  I suppose if I was zyx I could have attacked him for not saying "all the blanks who voted", and just saying "all the blacks".  

Yours was about the people in Wisconsin.  I made a mild point about the degree to which the data supports your point.  I have no obligation to correct every post on the web.  Your inferences as to my motivation for not correcting other posts you would have liked to see corrected are your own.  

You do seem quite sensitive about it, given how mildly I worded the correction.  

There ain't no good guy. There ain't no bad guy. There's only you and me and we just disagree - Jim Krueger

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

Gaius Petronius.

Fri Jun 08, 2012 at 09:18:58 AM EST

none

All elections are complicated affairs. I never considered Wisconsin particularly conservative, but unlike the official Inner Party line, you don't have to be a jackbooted conservative to oppose public union overreach.  For example, progressive pundit E.J. Dionne points out that WI exit polls found 6 out of 10 people oppose recall elections for anything than corruption in office, so they had a record turnout for an election most people oppose on principle.  

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improper.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 10:12:52 AM EST

none

There was a third candidate, Hari Trivedi (Indian Doctor), who was also running. Some are saying he took votes away from  Barrett.

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gerrymander.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 10:47:04 AM EST

none

Less than 1%. Wouldn't have made a difference in this race.

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Ephraim Gadsby.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 02:01:14 PM EST

none

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Re: Scott Walker's Love Child: Aborted Within One

joshv.

Thu Jun 07, 2012 at 11:23:32 AM EST

none

You'd think the Koch brothers themselves voted a couple million times...

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Gaius Petronius.

Thu Jun 07, 2012 at 02:59:17 PM EST

none

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Anywhere.

Thu Jun 07, 2012 at 03:10:27 PM EST

none

I imagine the word "fuck" was involved.

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Why Will Both Walker and Barack Win in WI?

novy.

Sat Jun 09, 2012 at 11:09:39 AM EST

none

Walker says government workers get paid too much and we need to slap them back into line, and most people in Wisconsin seem to agree. If ordinary workers think that government workers get some super-special deal at taxpayers' expense, even they might feel enough resentment to vote for Walker. Plainly, labour unions can't even get their candidates for nomination approved by Democrats let alone Wisconsin voters overall.

But national issues and state issues push voters in very different directions. For one obvious example, Romney will try to position himself to Obama's right on national security. In that process, he will alienate lots of independents and even conservatives in Wisconsin, which state has long preferred peaceniks in Congress.

Walker may look good to Wisconsin voters when he takes on government workers, but when he says that men need money more than women to explain why he opposes legislation on "equal pay for equal work", he may start to alienate some of his current supporters. This story won't really be over until current inter-party political ugliness has resolved itself, for one reason or another, and that may not be for many years to come.

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Re: Why Will Both Walker and Barack Win in WI?

HidingFromGoro.

Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 01:02:53 AM EST

none

If ordinary workers think that government workers get some super-special deal at taxpayers' expense, even they might feel enough resentment to vote for Walker.

Why aren't bankers, middle managers, IT mutants, and executives leaving their private-sector jobs in droves for the vast riches of a public teacher salary, then?

I got more styles than prison got bricks- ain't that some shit?

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Re: Why Will Both Walker and Barack Win in WI?

novy.

Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 09:57:50 AM EST

none

"[B]ankers, middle managers, IT mutants, and executives" hardly qualify as "ordinary workers". Some people work jobs that make government work, with its vacations and benefits, look desirable.

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Re: Why Will Both Walker and Barack Win in WI?

tjb.

Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 04:15:33 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

Why aren't bankers, middle managers, IT mutants, and executives leaving their private-sector jobs in droves for the vast riches of a public teacher salary, then?

Why aren't teachers leaving their public sector jobs in droves to become bankers, middle-managers, IT mutants or executives if they feel so oppressed?

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Re: Why Will Both Walker and Barack Win in WI?

improper.

Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 08:05:59 AM EST

none

There has been a decline in private sector unions but an increase in public sector unions.

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