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Carbon Capture Made Simple

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Posted to SciTech on Mon Jul 23, 2012 at 09:51:16 AM EST (promoted from Diaries by port1080). RSS.

"Dumping iron into the sea can bury carbon dioxide for centuries, potentially helping reduce the impact of climate change, according to a major new study. The work shows for the first time that much of the algae that blooms when iron filings are added dies and falls into the deep ocean."

Geoengineering, they call it, and it comes with "uncertainties and risks". Ken Buesseler, of Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, commented,

"Most scientists would agree that we are nowhere near the point of recommending [iron fertilization of the oceans] as a geoengineering tool. But many think that larger and longer [iron fertilization] experiments should be performed to help us to decide which, if any, of the many geoengineering options at hand should be deployed."
Of course, not everyone takes that sort of cautious approach. Forbes magazine, for example, apparently thinks we should do this immediately, mostly because it figures governments will be trying to stop global warming whether conservatives believe it exists or not and so they might as well do something cheap.

"Give me half a tanker of iron and I'll give you the next ice age", it has been said. But I don't really want another ice age, especially given that "we are still in the ice age that began 2.6 million years ago at the start of the Pleistocene epoch." Furthermore, "[t]here have been at least five major ice ages in the Earth's past (the Huronian, Cryogenian, Andean-Saharan, Karoo Ice Age and the Quaternary glaciation). Outside these ages, the Earth seems to have been ice-free even in high latitudes."

I think it could be that way again, and humans would be just fine. Who really needs all that ice anyway (except maybe hockey players)? I wish Forbes could seed his planet's oceans with iron and freeze his arse off and still leave MY planet alone.

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Thu Jul 19, 2012 at 10:49:41 AM EST

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I heard this story on the radio yesterday (thanks for the write-up) and definitely fascinating stuff. What was interesting is the experiments they did had no effect on ecology.

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novy.

Thu Jul 19, 2012 at 03:02:18 PM EST

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What scares me was that it went so well, some government really might just go ahead and do it. I prefer global warming to rapid global cooling.

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Sat Jul 21, 2012 at 09:16:52 AM EST

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Fortunately, it doesn't work as well as your writeup would indicate.  Biological activity in the ocean is in general more limited by the availability of phosphorus than by iron.  Adding iron will only increase productivity until the phosphorus is gone, and will additionally decrease productivity in the non-iron limited areas where the phosphorus would have flowed to had it not been consumed near where it upwelled due to iron addition.  Yeah, there's still an increase in carbon sequestration, but it doesn't radically change the picture.  See here under the maximal assumption of zero phosphorus in world surface oceans.

I say "fortunately", because the entire goal of the project is to take stuff from the surface and let it drop down to the surface and use up the oxygen down there.  Keep doing that long enough, and you turn the world's oceans into a version of the Salton Sea.  And that's probably exactly what what caused most of the mass extinctions in the Earth's history.  Out of sight, out of mind, I guess.

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novy.

Sat Jul 21, 2012 at 11:22:02 AM EST

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Since I don't want this to happen, I hope other scientists agree with you and deter governments from so acting.

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thefadd.

Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 06:17:31 AM EST

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Truly fascinating. This is why I don't worry about shit. Humans have a knack for figuring it out and keeping on keeping on.

I HAD HAD SEX WITH HUNTER S THOMPSON. HE CAME IN MY MOUTH AND I SWALLOWED IT. I SHOULD HAVE HAD HIS BABY. WE WOULD BE BALLIN' LIKE KOBE'S SON!!

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