Bachmann is on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Maybe she knows something we don't -- and if so, that would make this "whistleblowing".

If she has evidence, she should present it. If it's classified, she should STFU.

High-level politicians covering for/partnering with enemy foreign operatives would be a perfect example of a kind of corruption requiring a public campaign to expose, don't you think?

Again, if she has evidence we have law enforcement agencies specifically tasked to deal with espionage.

If only there was some private group of individuals committed to investigating and reporting facts to provide evidence of wrongdoing, so that the public could have an informed opinion as to whether Bachmann was wrongly maligning a good woman or dutifully working to secure America against a modern Mata Hari. Afourth estate, as it were.

Seems to me the fourth estate has been all over this and the informed opinion is she's a loon.

Seems to me the fourth estate has been all over this and the informed opinion is she's a loon.

Perhaps you could point me to where someone who has facts about the Amedin family's ties with the Muslim Brotherhood, or the lack thereof. If Bachmann is crazily wrong, that would be a credible way to reveal it.

Before one can have an informed opinion, one needs information.

Gerry, the burden of proof here is on Michelle Bachmann to provide evidence for Huma Abedin's immediate ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. It's not the burden of the Abedin family.

Before one can have an informed opinion, one needs information.

And the person who is consistently misinformed is Michelle Bachmann so she really has no credibility.

the burden of proof here is on Michelle Bachmann to provide evidence for Huma Abedin's immediate ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

No, it isn't. She's an elected representative, not a prosecutor. As an elected representative, she's asking that federal resources be used in a certain way. That is entirely within the scope of duties for her office. (Whether she gets what she wants is another story.)

What you're requiring is tantamount to saying, "if Harry Reid thinks banking executives did something wrong, he should file charges instead of holding a Senate hearing." It is begging the question, and it's not how Congress works on any other issue.

If I get elected to any public office, I could claim you were in league with Nazi war criminals (trying to hide them from authorities) and demand that government agencies investigate you, and it wouldn't be up to ME to provide ANY evidence, it would be up to YOU to prove that you weren't hiding Nazis? And how would you prove that negative?

"Innocent until proven guilty" has long been one of America's judicial cornerstones. I guess you don't care much for America's system of justice.

That's a retarded comparison because Harry Reid would have some evidence of wrongdoings before a senate hearing is even called. Michelle Bachmann just speaking out of her ass, like she routinely does. You're basically saying that elected officials have every right to say whatever the hell they want, even if it's slander?

What's hilarious about this is Gerry, that you are so damn gunho about defending this, while more Republicans are coming out and condemning Bachmann.

McCain and Ed Rollins already came out and publicly condemned Bachmann.

Now John Boehner:

Asked Thursday whether he shares Bachmann's concerns about Abedin, House Speaker John Boehner told reporters that "accusations like this being thrown around are pretty dangerous."

Scott Brown:

GOP Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts wrote on Twitter, "Rep. Bachmann's accusations about Sec. Clinton aide Huma Abedin are out-of-line. This kind of rhetoric has no place in our public discourse."

Lindsey Graham:

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, meanwhile, told Politico the attacks were "ridiculous." Abedin, he said, "is about as far away from the Muslim Brotherhood view of women and ideology as you possibly could get. She's a very modern woman in every sense of the word, and people who say these things are really doing her a disservice because they don't know what they're talking about, and I don't know what their motivations are, but clearly it says more about them than it does her."

Marco Rubio:

Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida said, "I don't share the feelings that are in that letter. Obviously, every member of Congress has a right to express their opinion and every member of Congress is held accountable for their opinion, if they're right or if they're wrong... I'm very very careful and cautious about ever making accusations like that about anyone."

You're clearly in the minority, Gerry, by defending that toolbag.

Being "in the minority" wouldn't matter if what he was saying had any merit. But his passionate defence of both MacCarthy and Bachmann really does say more about Gerry than it says about Abedin.

I KNOW that you secretly come from OUTER SPACE. Go ahead, PROVE to me that you were born on Earth. And don't bother producing any of those forged birth certificates either, we can all see through those.

I KNOW that you secretly come from OUTER SPACE. Go ahead, PROVE to me that you were born on Earth.

What gave me away? It was my superior intellect, wasn't it? You silly apes are always astonished by my superior intellect.

(Well, except for the females. They're astonished by this body's groin-appendage, even though they claim intellect matters more.)

What gave you away? You don't know? Your secret CODE. Did you think no one would be able to decipher it?

I also checked with Michele Bachmann. And she really does go for your groin-appendage, I understand. Congratulations.

If it's classified she should STFU? Are you kidding me? If it's classified it's classified because the Saudis bought and paid for our last President.

I HAD HAD SEX WITH HUNTER S THOMPSON. HE CAME IN MY MOUTH AND I SWALLOWED IT. I SHOULD HAVE HAD HIS BABY. WE WOULD BE BALLIN' LIKE KOBE'S SON!!

Laughable. Grotesque. "Maybe she knows something we don't"? Your post sums up modern American conservatism nicely: maybe everyone we disagree with works for Russia, or Iran, or some other foreign enemy, BUT we don't have to prove anything, it falls to you to clear your own name or die immersed in mud. If patently false accusations were made against you, attempting to ruin your life for political reasons, you MIGHT understand what you have been defending here. But I guess you feel safe from that sort of thing, since only your political side habitually engages in this sort of vile wickedness.

I like seeing you endorsing Bachmann and her political tactics. It explains lots of your previous posts to me. It also tells me that arguing with you makes as much sense as arguing with Zyx. Like most defence lawyers, you could defend anything as long as it originates on your side of America's political fence. Say hi to Glenn Beck for me.  

LOL @ "in essence and in at least some specifics."

The standard being used here is silly. It's some guy saying that "well there's white guys in the NHL." Or claiming that theirs a big Jewish bankers conspiracy because Lloyd Blankfein is a jew.

McCarthy had some 300 people on his list - which ruined the lives of many absolutely innocent folks. This is not vindication on any level.

McCarthy's claims were 95% lies with accidental sprinklings of truth. When you say "McCarthy's claims were correct", you lie as well. But so what, eh? Most of your political heroes leave you at roadside in their ability to invent slander against your mutual enemies, so why blame you for eating it up and belching it back out?

Calling hundreds of people who weren't members of CPUSA WAS slander. Claiming people with no ties to Islamists or terrorists do have such ties would also be slander.

But I find myself surprised to see you defending Gerrymander. You typically only jump in to defend Zyx. Did Gerry join your team recently?

McCarthy didn't make their names public. He did exaggerate the numbers, which for liberals is the Crime of the Century (unlike treason or being a Communist, which liberals are tolerant of).

"But I find myself surprised to see you defending Gerrymander. You typically only jump in to defend Zyx. Did Gerry join your team recently?"

Your AIDS dementia is worsening.

If he never made any names public, how does anyone know he had any names at all?

When McCarthy was slapped down by his colleagues, "liberals" weren't his only problem.

I know you can't help but be casually insulting, like some sort of personality defect, but actually I ... I ... don't remember what you were saying, and no longer care.

How does anyone know? Total mystery. Or not. Nice admission you don't know what you are talking about.

As for insults, you invite them, then whine about it. Try making on topic comments and not playing games.

Unless you get regular stipends from Don Rickles, being uncontrollably insulting, even to people you think "deserve" it, counts as character defect. (Just as baiting you, as I routinely do, would also count as one. Everyone has them.) People who insult others routinely just as routinely lose jobs, spouses and friends. Not that that should affect you any. I figure you make your living selling right-wing t-shirts on-line, so no problem with losing jobs, and you already have no spouse or friends (save Zyx; you can always count on him, eh?), so no problem with losing any more of them.

As for not knowing what McCarthy had or didn't have in his hands that fateful day, who cares (besides you, which doesn't really count for anything)? He got what was coming to him, scumbag that he was, and it no longer really matters.

As for not playing games ... Jesus, who wrote that comment anyway? I forget. It couldn't have been Alf though because he was complaining about playing games. At this rate, next he'll be complaining about white racism.  

I think my responding to you feeds into your mental illness.

I think you responding to me feeds into your own mental illness. Can't help it, though, can you?