Wait, Jesus who didn't exist, or who was really Julius Caesar, was killed by Jews? Before or after his marriage?

Or maybe Jesus, who was executed pursuant to Roman law per Pontius Pilate in manner set forth by Roman law, was actually executed by Jews? (You know, I hear Jews murder  Christian children to get blood for their ceremonies.)  

Have you decided whether to admit to your Catholicism yet? Or did you abandon it because that silly liberal, John XXIII, screwed everything up?

"Jesus, who was executed pursuant to Roman law per Pontius Pilate in manner set forth by Roman law, was actually executed by Jews?"

Now when the high priest and the captain of the temple and the chief priests heard these things, they doubted of them whereunto this would grow.

Then came one and told them, saying, Behold, the men whom ye put in prison are standing in the temple, and teaching the people.

Then went the captain with the officers, and brought them without violence: for they feared the people, lest they should have been stoned.

And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them,

Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us.

Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

"I hear Jews murder  Christian children to get blood for their ceremonies"

You heard right.

1. Who were "the captain" and "the officers"? Who were they afraid might stone them?

I think since Americans were responsible for Qaddafi's death, we should blame you personally for Qaddafi's death. You don't deny being American, do you? Why did you kill Qaddafi, you monster?

2. You deny that Jesus was crucified? Like Romans crucified people condemned to death for violations of Roman law? You figure he was "hanged on a tree" instead?

Christians don't really know what they believe unless they have consulted their spiritual superiors before they open their mouths.

3. I knew I could count on you to affirm "blood libel", like good old-fashioned Catholics so often do.

'Nuff said.  

The blood libel book was written by a Jew.

Which naturally makes it true. Or at least true enough for someone like you.

I have some really interesting books by Americans that you could take responsibility for too.

It wouldn't be "a settled question" because some people wouldn't believe Thomas wrote it no matter what evidence was uncovered. It would be relevant for reasons already set forth. But were you referring to THIS Gospel?

I was referring to the Gospel of Jesus's Wife, the subject of this discussion, and that's not the reason the authorship of the Gospel of Thomas remains unsettled.

King may have referred to it as "GosJesWife" but it was part of documents found at Nag Hammadi, which included Gospel of Thomas and Gospel of Mary Magdalene. That she has no idea what gospel she has found doesn't change anything.

No it wasn't.

I guess they just keep finding new Coptic materials every day, scattered about Egypt.

I guess they just keep finding new Coptic materials every day, scattered about Egypt.

And on Youtube....

-milo-

That must be where they found them to begin with, back in 1948 or whatever.

Egyptian materials are scattered about the world, which is why they found the papyrus in East Germany.

Did the East Germans find it next to the Hitler Diaries?

See here for background.

Usually the way these things work is that someone loots a box or container or mummy which is later discovered to contain a noteworthy manuscript scrap.

I read your link. Thanks for providing one.

Even if this fragmentary material was found in East Germany, originally stolen from Egypt, your link itself connects it with documents found at Nag Hammadi. Whether it was fragments of one or another existing Coptic gospel, or whether it was fragments of some new Coptic gospel, it came from one main body of work, written in Coptic. (There was almost certainly no "Gospel of Jesus' Wife", since King just pulled that name out of her hat.)

This fragment might turn out to be bogus (like documents ostensibly written in Egyptian hieroglyphs found by Joseph Smith which became founding revelations of Romney's LDS church), but plenty of existing, and well-authenticated, Coptic gospels make it almost as clear as this one does that Jesus was married to Mary Magdelene.

Sorry this causes your Catholic spiritual advisors and friends indigestion. Tell them it was all Jewish propaganda. They'll believe you.

It's not from Nag Hammadi, idiot.

It might as well be, you narrow-minded twit.

[You plainly can't come up with any more effective ways to communicate, so I join you on your level. Getting angry at everyone you disagree with about almost everything doesn't really excuse it, but open racists don't need excuses, do they?]

Instead of throwing a fit when people point out you're lying, stop lying.

If I said that blacks and whites were equal, you would call that lying too. NO, I WON'T STOP DISAGREEING WITH YOU, no matter what you call it.

This is exactly why the latter day saints are preferable to the previous day saints.  Jesus was the son of God, but he ran with a rough crowd.  And the saints assigned to watch over him were a bunch of party animals first and protectors of his pure spirit second.  Don't even get me started on the angels.  It wasn't until Moroni came along to kick butt and take names that that rag tag bunch of rascals was straightened out.  If you want to put Moroni into a context you can understand, he is the angelic counterpart to Mike Trout.

Sic Usquequaque Pro Spurcus Uber