If you watch the video of it, it does not look that excessive, even without factoring in the fact the cops were surrounded by a hostile mob, and the fact that the alternative is to physically grapple with people.

The folks weren't resisting. They were sitting still. They could have been physically removed by the police. The cops just chose to take the easy way out. And if the surrounding mob was so hostile then why wasn't the chemical agent used on them instead of the peaceful hippies?

America! I could teach you, but I'd have to charge.

Softening them up first makes removal easier. You complain about excessive force yet you want the police to get physical and to randomly pepper spray a crowd.  

There's a cop around my area getting paid $125,000+ to sit at home, even the union is asking why.

LITTLE EGG HARBOR -- A township police lieutenant placed on administrative leave nearly three years ago continues to collect his six-figure annual salary despite complaints from his own union leaders.
Police union leaders say they've pressed the township for answers on why  Lt. Don Johnson, a 24-year veteran, is still collecting his annual salary and benefits. Johnson, who went on leave in 2010, is also receiving raises to his annual salary, which this year increased to  $137,453.

Why your eggs so little?

Not sure. Probably has to do with the Chinese in some way.

Chinese eggs: best to avoid.

Chinese "food" in general, best to avoid.

WTF is up with that salary for being a police in LEH?  That's insanity - nothing EVER happens there.

This happened there.

Probably more to do with a higher than average median household income.

I HAD HAD SEX WITH HUNTER S THOMPSON. HE CAME IN MY MOUTH AND I SWALLOWED IT. I SHOULD HAVE HAD HIS BABY. WE WOULD BE BALLIN' LIKE KOBE'S SON!!

That's exactly what I thought when I read the salary amount.

The average cop in NJ gets paid somewhere around $80-100K. The shitty thing is that the cops that should be paid more because they work in more dangerous areas are not paid more.

welcome to results based rewards

I HAD HAD SEX WITH HUNTER S THOMPSON. HE CAME IN MY MOUTH AND I SWALLOWED IT. I SHOULD HAVE HAD HIS BABY. WE WOULD BE BALLIN' LIKE KOBE'S SON!!

You really think a beat cop in NJ makes $100K/yr?

I got more styles than prison got bricks- ain't that some shit?

Yes.

LOL well your link says it best:

"* Suburban cops are paid the best while city officers generally make less and rural cops make the least."

I got more styles than prison got bricks- ain't that some shit?

The data seems to support that conclusion. You gotta realize this is NJ we are talking about. Public sector employees in many incidences make more money than private sector folks. There are states were concern over public sector employees is legitimate and NJ happens to be one of those states.

I think you live in Arizona right? I could see a cop there being paid shit.

I actually shouldn't have put "if applicable" because the entire point of my asking was essentially your point -- that student loans are rarely owed to the university these days. Mine were but I think they were some of the last of their kind. Actually mine were from a fund developed by students themselves after Reagan cut student loans the first time.

I HAD HAD SEX WITH HUNTER S THOMPSON. HE CAME IN MY MOUTH AND I SWALLOWED IT. I SHOULD HAVE HAD HIS BABY. WE WOULD BE BALLIN' LIKE KOBE'S SON!!

Their "success" is entwined with their paranoid belief in grand conspiracy theories:

Banks profit from student loan debt. Student loan debt increases as college tuition and fees increase. Therefore, banks profit from fee hikes. It makes good business sense for banks to push colleges to raise fees.

The UC Board of Regents is glad to oblige. Most Regents are prominent financiers themselves...

So, now their account holders have one fewer place to do business and-- assuming they're not opening a new branch elsewhere-- those branch-level employees, hardly part of the 1%, are out of a job.  How is that helpful?

You must be under the mistaken belief that Occupy Davis cares about anything other than themselves. Their goals are actually very self centered and limited: "free" tuition, fewer police on campus, and being able to elect and remove the school's chancellor.

I don't really have an opinion on them one way or the other.  I'm asking Tim Burr to explain how that action helped . . . well, anybody.  Even if they're only concerned about themselves, I don't see how closing an on-campus bank branch helps them.

It seems in their minds anything that hurts the school's administration is a good thing.

Do you truly believe UC Davis and their students are now suffering because the almighty charity of US Bank has left the campus? The story is not all it appears to be on the surface, the attention of the pepper spray incident trumped the closure of a US Bank branch. Most of the students are happy it's gone. I say that from knowing some of the schools faculty and students. US Bank even took their ATM's off campus, the ones that had a $4.50 service charge.

Do not confuse my ability to comprehend that the Occupy Movement has a set of objectives and goals as an endorsement or denouncement of said goals. I'm only trying to project more to the actual events being discussed. U.S. Bancorp (USB) sure as fuck doesn't want to spend their marketing budget on the fact they had a branch shut down due to the Occupy movement. Decry that closure all you want. I just felt it should be noted.

Do you truly believe UC Davis and their students are now suffering because the almighty charity of US Bank has left the campus?

Most of the students are happy it's gone

Do not confuse my ability to comprehend that the Occupy Movement has a set of objectives and goals as an endorsement or denouncement of said goals

I know my claim that UC Davis is just fine that US Bank closed down their branch on campus is just an opinion, but it does come from talking to and being with faculty and students unassociated to the Occupy movement. From all indications they were looking for a way out of their lease before the Occupy movement was ever created. Their branch members consisted of 2500 students. Thus all of the legal motioning afterwards by the UC Davis reagents.

All opinions aside, a non-violent picket on the campus of UC Davis closed down a branch of the US Bank.

The Occupy Movements prime concern is the claim that large corporations and the global financial system control the world in a way that disproportionately benefits a minority, undermines democracy and is unstable.

 The ongoing Davis Dozen ordeal can be followed almost exclusively by none other than the Davis Dozen.

http://davisdozen.org/?cat=9

The Occupy Movements prime concern is the claim that large corporations and the global financial system control the world in a way that disproportionately benefits a minority, undermines democracy and is unstable

Unfortunately for them no one cares about the opinions of common criminals.

Well they cared enough to pay a settlement for assault by one of UC Davis' police officers.

 UC-Davis will pay 21 students $30,000 each.  In addition, the school will pay $250,000 in legal fees to the ACLU and establish new policies to deal with student demonstrations. The total award for the assault will be upward towards a million dollars.

Which of the "Davis Dozen" are receiving payouts?

From all indications they were looking for a way out of their lease before the Occupy movement was ever created.

Wouldn't that mean the Occupy movement just helped the big bad bank do something it was already planning to do? Is that what victory looks like?

...but since no one was listening, we must begin again.

Wouldn't that mean the Occupy movement just helped the big bad bank do something it was already planning to do? Is that what victory looks like?

All indications and from the briefs I've read which were presented during hearings on the closure indicated that the Occupy movement was the interference needed to break their lease under the guise it was an unsafe location to do business. The UC Davis US Bank branch had become a liability for US Bancorp, and vice versa, the Davis students and Occupy members felt the on campus branch had become a constant symbol of predatory practices by financial institutions.

It is in my mind a win win situation, with multiple mitigating factors that stops either party from talking too loud about it. It's a substantial story that for whatever reasons most large news organizations chose not to cover. That is what I like about this site and Plastic, they have potential still to go beyond the mundane.

 Those Davis kids have got their shit together.

So.... let me get this straight...

1. US Bank wants to leave UC Davis but has a lease for their retail branch office.

2. The university would prefer them to stay, presumably because many of the students & faculty are US Bank clients and it would be very inconvenient if US Bank were to abandon that location and would also cost the Davis community a small number of pleasant (if boring) retail banking jobs.

3. Therefore, the university holds US Bank to its lease obligations, much to the chagrin of US Bank management.

4. Sometime later, a very small minority of UC Davis students cause a disturbance in the vicinity of US Bank's branch at UC Davis.

5. US Bank uses this as a pretext to break the lease they had at their UC Davis branch, thus inconveniencing the many students and faculty that were US Bank clients and resulting in the loss of a small number of pleasant (if boring) retail banking jobs.

6. VICTORY FOR THE PROLETARIAT!!!!!!!